whistleblowers had inspired him to release the trove of documents and in response he said quote benny drake kerry aku and manning are all examples of how overly harsh responses to public interest whistle blowing only escalate the scale scope and scale involved in future disclosures these draconian responses simply build better whistleblowers one of those many you mention is actually joining us right now thomas drake former n.s.a. senior executive and whistleblower of warrantless spying along with just a whistleblower and national security director for the government accountability project thank you so much both of you for taking the time to shoot it thank you sir perhaps i have not it's been a whirlwind couple of weeks for you guys and thomas i'll start with you daniel ellsberg of course with the most famous whistleblowers of all time said that this was the most important week in american history do you agree with that sentiment just sort of why because we're seeing the contours of an extraordinary systemic leviathan surveillance system that is now worldwide in scope. and how is prism different t