benny gantz, the former israeli ministry of defense, says now is the time to confront them.rt an attack on the nuclear facilities in iran? miri: you are giving me a platform on the bbc. why is this about israel? why is the islamic regime of iran that is to state -- that is destabilizing all of the middle east, the rockets fired from yemen, the houthis against israel? to me, the islamic regime of iran is something the world can face. can you imagine where we would be right now if this islamic regime is nuclear? this is not about me wanti more. i don't want war, ever. i did not ask for october 7. i think israel for a large degree, we thought we were deterring. it is also because we don't want war. and here we are in a war and what we are being told is hold back, they are behind civilians, hold back. iran is behind it all, but hold back. where is the rest of the world? the islamic regime destabilizes everybody. how about the world getting on board against this destabilizing meaning -- he calls us the cancer of the world. i am going to call against that and say how about the wor

now is the time says benni gantz, to build a western alliance to confront iran.tes into a wider conflict, which the white house says it doesn't want. the former united states ambassador to the united nations mark wallace is with us. he served in the administration for george w bush. he is now the ceo —— ceo of united against nuclear iran. thank you for coming in the programme. would you support an attack on iran's nuclear facilities? i attack on iran's nuclear facilities?— attack on iran's nuclear facilities? ~ , , facilities? i think it is very clear, this _ facilities? i think it is very clear, this is _ facilities? i think it is very clear, this is a _ facilities? i think it is very clear, this is a very - facilities? i think it is very. clear, this is a very somber day, a year ago today iran caused the greatest loss of life to the jewish caused the greatest loss of life to thejewish people since the holocaust and ignited a war in the middle east. hamas declared war on israel, thing orjoin that war on october eight, and they were known as the axis of iran. wha

opposition politician benni gantz, a former minister of defence, argued in the nyt this weekend thatry. iran, he says, is waiting for its chance to annihilate israel. now, says the prime minister, is the time to confront it. translation: we're changing the security reality _ translation: we're changing the security reality of _ translation: we're changing the security reality of our _ translation: we're changing the security reality of our region, - security reality of our region, for the sake of our children, the fate of our future and to ensure what happened on october the 7th will happen again. —— will not happen again. today a year on israel fights on three fronts. it is a country at war. 135 rockets were fired by hezbollah just today, some intercepted above the israeli city of haifa. two divisions of israeli troops have been deployed to the northern border. we will speak throughout this hour with our panel. about where this goes next, whether israel does have a strategic end game in mind. and what role the arab states will play in finding that solution. but first let us turn to

benny gantz, what you said, no they're all talk and seem language, it is either of us or them, and thecked and will be hurt. is responded nobly which makes it absolutely clear that it was simply not tolerate this. we spoke a lots in april about each side wanting to establish deterrence, in other words, to say that we have hits you and if you hit me again i would hit you back. i don't know i beat you, friend, but the deterrence for iran, especially what's happened with hezbollah, their forward advance, there deterrence is dented and israel now is any risk of taking mood after its spectacular literary successes of the past few weeks, and it does seem with every day, it seems clear, they decided this is the moment to strike, and we are going to strike, and we are going to strike heart everywhere. and the prime minister wanted to attack for decades. i the prime minister wanted to attack for decades.— the prime minister wanted to attack for decades. i think the . loves attack for decades. i think the gloves are _ attack for decades. i think the gloves are coming _ attack for decades. i thin

benny gantz reiten in the new york times this weekend, julie, said it is time for the west to come togetherwhen it comes to standing up to iran? brute to standing up to iran? we are not, we to standing up to iran? we are not. we have _ to standing up to iran? we are not, we have not _ to standing up to iran? we are not, we have not in _ to standing up to iran? we are not, we have not in the - to standing up to iran? we are not, we have not in the last i not, we have not in the last four— not, we have not in the last four years _ not, we have not in the last fouryears. bankrupt not, we have not in the last four years. bankrupt iran and we will— four years. bankrupt iran and we will have a more stable government, we will definitely have _ government, we will definitely have a — government, we will definitely have a more stable middle east, so i have a more stable middle east, so i agree. — have a more stable middle east, so i agree, we need to come together— so i agree, we need to come together and paste them for sure — together and paste them for sure with military, but we need to but— sure

and that's why people who are politically very opposed to netanyahu, even people like benny gantz, moderate strong military background, they are absolutely behind him with this. and actually they're behind the incursion into south lebanon . incursion into south lebanon. but where you are, right, and the absolute implication of all your questions is, where is the world system? and it was netanyahu. and, you know, i have some sympathy with starmer on this, saying , look, the un this, saying, look, the un mechanism is not working. and one of the biggest examples is resolution 1701 from 2006, in south lebanon. it's a complete nonsense. it never even started the disarming of hezbollah there and there. we are. watch this space. >> robert fox, brilliant as even >> robert fox, brilliant as ever. please. >> i just want to ask robert what he thinks about israel, whether they might be overextending slightly because there also have been attacking there also have been attacking the houthis, you know, the houthi rebels in yemen. and, you know, we've got these shipping lanes. and of course, iran controls

benny gantz says this is the time the west should stand together against iran, and why it is the labord question, and _ forjust that? it is a good question, and listen - forjust that? it is a good question, and listen to i forjust that? it is a good i question, and listen to both the prime minister and the leader— the prime minister and the leader of the opposition in the house — leader of the opposition in the house of— leader of the opposition in the house of commons today, they said what— house of commons today, they said what they have to say, and they— said what they have to say, and they put — said what they have to say, and they put it _ said what they have to say, and they put it as well as they could _ they put it as well as they could be expected to, but you can utter— could be expected to, but you can utter these words about what — can utter these words about what israel should do and what iran what israel should do and what iran and — what israel should do and what iran and allthe what israel should do and what iran and all the rest of it, and— iran and all the rest of it,

my deep feeling is that were he to be replaced by any other israeli leaders, and benny gantz, they wouldreds and thousands of people protesting in the streets are in favor of responding militarily both to hezbollah and iran. this is not chicago 1968. these aren't antiwar demonstrations or anti-netanyahu demonstrations, many people in the streets are going to pick up weapons and go into the reserves and fight that war. they understand that. israelis distinguish between words of choice and no choice. this is almost an entire consensus that this is a war of no choice. >> former israeli ambassador to the united states, michael oheren. senior fellow at the carnegie endowment, and retired four star army general, barry mccaffrey, thank you very much for your analysis and insight this morning, and that does it for us this morning. we'll see you tomorrow. ana cabrera and jose diaz-balart pick up the coverage in two minutes. n two minutes.