account, laundering money or laundering ideas -- >> if that was found out by one of us, we'll would benoodled, don't you think? >> i have seen clever enough insider-trading schemes that very successfully did -- avoid detection for a long period of time. if you try to expand transparency and not simply to traits but to the communication of information to others which is the route by which profit often comes, you will run into difficulties with respect to the work you do on that help them a fair point, thanks. >> i think law professors mark macon public think of brought some problem with transparency. the way to deal with that is to get thesec example of authority. the sec can be given an example of a role to carve out safe harbors. and exemptions. >> i am not smarter than prof. coffee but i see some concerns with across the board transparency in everything the senate and congress does of that is what your asking them of that is what i am asking. >> there will be many sessions that would not be transparent and deliberations as committee members behind the scenes that probably should not be tran