>> guest: i was born and raised in brooklyn, new york the bensonhurst section which was back then andn now brooklyn, if you took an aerial photo ethnically divided italian-american, irish, african-american, puerto rican so i so i was in an italian-american section called bensonhurst, a very family oriented warm and nurturing area to live in. my father is first-generation. his father was born in italy and came to the united states at the turn of the 20th, 19 to 20th century my father was raised early on and little italy section of new york in manhattan moved to brooklyn and that our family was raised in brooklyn. he went to columbia university college of pharmacy, became pharmacy became a pharmacist, and that is what he did for his life. c-span: that is how he got the name dark. >> guest: they called him dark. a little bit different than it is now. many people either could not afford to go to a dr. or did not want to take the time to make an appointment and would go to there neighborhood pharmacy and explain symptoms. my father never overstepped his bounds. often he would give them the