. >> we got the berberry results as well and they did very well. >> they did. and the high-end continues to do well and it is a trend we have seen for a few years. >> what does that mean for the big department store chains ike macy's? >> macy's, i would say, is aspirational luxury. they fell short on sales, which they blamed on the weather, but also being in a more promotional letter -- promotional he competitive landscape. they are doing well, but not as well as the burberry customer or the tiffany customer. >> what do you think? >> macy's has had not a very good quarter. that happened in retail. the other issue affecting not just macy's, but the entire apparel sector more broadly is that discretionary spending on goods is softening. there is a rotation in discretionary with a distressed consumer, high utility bills in the winter, with taking the oxygen out of the room on discretionary goods. as people rotate into the nondiscretionary goods, and gasoline, other necessities. >> what do you make of target? >> target is an interesting study. they came in relative