bergdorf goodman has one of the highest real estate in new york city. a luxury museum. they do so well online? milton: they redesigned, they put the product out there. they are doing marketing. they are attracting wealthy millenials. milton: does it have to do with the fact that online can attract international shoppers? walk through, there are international shoppers who you would not normally see. milton: the wealthy are pretty resilient to an economic shots across the world. the u.s. wealthy consumer, and boomer, millenial, love bergdorf goodman. an excellent experience. there's a guy in the shoe business doing a tremendous job. he's the ceo. their client experience matches the product offering, not true for other competitors. erik: investors are going to have to make the same choice that consumers do. which do i want to own? what are you getting in the way of strategy? in the way of differentiation from neiman marcus you are not getting at nordstrom, for example, which is publicly traded. stephanie: hold on. is neiman a fair comp? erik: it is the only comp. macy's is