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berit, you're always great. i didn't beat you over the head on that because you didn't work in the white house counsel's office. >> next time. >>> election day was nearly two weeks ago, there's still all kinds of surprises unfolding. we're going to run through some of them with, gobble, gobble, chris cillizza. little bit different hair tonight. that's sharp. chris cillizza next. >>> almost two weeks later, and the elections still aren't over. but there are lessons to be learned especially as we head into the 2020 election cycle. the map is changing, big-time in some places. chris cillizza is here with five amazing facts about the election. and let's start with the fact that one race still ain't over. >> no. absolutely -- well, there's a few that aren't over, but let's go with utah first, chris. because that race has gone back and forth and back and forth. that's mia love -- >> no love. >> african-american congresswoman. let's play it because i'll get into the results in a minute here, but let's play very quickly

shimon prokupecz is back with us and berit berger is here as well.e who weren't watching earlier, tell me more about the deal and do we have any idea what mueller was hoping to gain with him? >> we don't have any ideas as to what exactly mueller had to gain with him. it could just be nothing. it could be that mueller's team here feels he committed a crime, he lied to them, he perhaps lied before a grand jury and therefore they were left with no choice but to charge them with a crime. he's rejecting. he's come to them, according to corsi, that the mueller team has come to him and said, hey, we want you to plead guilty. it's a plea deal where he would plead to this one count. he would come to court, admit that he lied and the case would essentially be over. he would potentially face some kind of jail time. it would be that he could get no jail time. something has happened here, all along, corsi has been claiming that he's been cooperating with the special counsel, spent 40 hours with them, provided them with tons of information, said he was working on

would that be, berit, about obstruction of justice still? >> it could be.o what we've heard, he only wanted to give written responses on the collusion part, not on the obstruction of justice part. they still want to get some answers. so what form that takes i think we don't know. there are certainly reasons to think they may not be able to subpoena the president in person but they may try for another round of written questions. >> rudy giuliani says that mueller would lose subpoenaing the president. >> i would say we wouldn't take any legal advice on rudy giuliani on any subject, but certainly not on this one. i think that the case of u.s. v. nixon clearly establishes that a president can be subpoenaed and must respond to a subpoena. i don't think there's a big difference between a subpoena for documents and a subpoena for testimony, and the argument that it would take too long and that mueller shouldn't waste time, i just want to point out that it took us three months from our subpoena until the supreme court ruled. three months. that's not a long time. an

. >> two things berit. the reason mueller believes cohen isn't just that he feels it, right? it's because they have proof of communications that extended beyond the date that cohen originally gave. the original narrative was upset by proof. that's why mueller believes him. it's not a personality contest. why is it never enough for those who support the president to point out lying. why isn't a pattern of lying to the american people about things that matter in moments that matter, not impressive, doesn't mean it's illegal. we're talking about political judgment here, and political consequences. can't lying add it up in a pattern that we're starting to see here matter? right, like you said, lying, obviously lying to congress is a crime, lying to investigators is a crime, lying to the people is not necessarily a crime, but that doesn't make it ethical. i think that mueller's team did exactly what you said. they're not going to take cohen's word for it. the famous statement is trust. they're going to investigate, verify. they have documents, financial records, they have other wi

berit, to you, big picture it for me. why is this moscow trump to you are lie so significant? >> the first reason is because everyone was lying about it. you know something as a former prosecutor is important when people have to try to get their story straight about it. if there was no issue with it, if this was all above the board, then why were people lying? why did michael cohen have to go in front of congress and say something totally different than he's saying in court now? it makes us know there was something people were trying to keep hidden. the other reason i think it's so significant is because as you mentioned earlier, this is a, you know, a politician who we have no insight into his finances we've never seen his tax returns. it is this black hole. so we don't know what kind of conflicts there are. so to the extent that we're now hearing information that there was this ongoing business relationship with russia that we have had really no insight into, that's significant for everyone. that certainly is something i feel like the american people should be worried about.