the university of california berkley alumni base and 12 hours lawyers in the sample. after they delineated the effectiveness standards using gold standard methods then they came up with behaviorally anchored rating scales to judge the quality of the lawyers that-- how they performed on 26 different dimensions, so if i was in the sample. i would have a score from my supervisor, my peers, creativity innovation or my practical judgment and took that data and correlated back to the academic predictors, the lact and others prided on admissions. so, i'll put this question to you and let me see if you can get some of the take away from the study. which attributes below are better predictor. lact, undergraduate and law school grades, emotional stability, self-control, consciousness and ambition. which was it, was it a or was it b? d? everyone says-- well, you've got it right here. so, let's go back, how does your law firm or how do your chambers hire? do you rely on b or rely on a? . you rely on b? i suspect that my experience has abouten, we rely quite a bit on a-- "a", and