so i got together with a colleague at something called the berkman center for internet society -- i've been a perpetual fellow. i'm sort of -- >> one of the fellows. >> you're supported by public funding, i'm supported by foundations and random rich people. but, you know -- but we created something called global voices online where we basically invited bloggers from around the world to cure rate the conversations coming out of citizen media around the world. and, you know, i do believe that we need professional journalism for all kinds of reasons that we can talk about more. i'm not saying that bloggers should replace journalists. but the fact that people can report on themselves as we've seen in the past 12 to 18 months is tremendously important and powerful. and the second point which kind of comes to the subject of my book, my experience working with bloggers around the world through global voices and research i've done about censorship and surveillance around the world has also emphasized -- really brought home to me that we take the internet too much for granted. it hasn't been ar

talk to dana boyd at harvard from the berkman institute on internet and society. talk to david finkelhore at the university of new hampshire. talk to dr. mark latinero who is heading research on human trafficking and technology. there are a multitude of academics out there who are saying as well as the vice cops on the ground, this is not the answer. >> talking about shutting down the adult services section. she says it's not the answer. it took us a couple of days but we did talk to the people she suggested would back up her argument that shutting the site down wasn't the answer. the first one she mentioned didn't want to comment. the second, david finkelhore, the director of the crimes against the children research center in the university of new hampshire did talk to us. he said, quote, they seem to be doing a very poor job of policing their site and i think it would help the situation if backpage were to shut down. she also mentioned dr. mark latinero as someone who would back up her contention if backpage shut down the ads would be pushed further underground.