and she's sex bomb, sex bomb giving off the musk, and, so -- ( laughter ) -- berlusconi -- then berlusconinning, running down his face. so i imagine them off-duty. i don't impersonate politicians because i'm incredibly political and sort of like this infuriated liberal and i hate trump the most and the best. i like the poignancy and sadness in people. what a horrible time to be a prime minister for theresa may. >> trevor: you have brexit, trump, europe. >> the public school boys like boris and cameron, they have to mess it up and go to their chateaus and leave it to theresa to clean up this horrid mess ( laughter ) >> trevor: there's got to be the one character that you've always loved doing, the one person you've loved impersonating the one voice you go to whenever you're feeling sad. >> i used to do a woman called ruby roman, an old alcoholic bigot who lived in hollywood, and i will just say anything i want about anybody, and people like that. she's so american to me. see, you've come to america to do a show like i did. >> trevor: right. >> and i notice, i can see, i love what you've don

it's in these foreign minister when britain bob was franco frattini twice foreign minister and berlusconi cabinets and a european commissioner he is a special representative of the organization for security and cooperation in europe and a former public prosecutor he was also italy's parliamentary committee president for intelligence and security services and state secrets full of our minister welcome to going on the ground in person for a change let's just begin with libya i mean at the time you told anyone that would listen the bombing libya was a bad idea so what's your take on libya seven years after britain boehm did well we confer our position at a time we didn't want to war in libya we try to do everything possible to purchase you weigh. partners lie because our calls he'll come around it was a very bad idea to destabilize the northern africa we doubt thinking about what next the is was the question was not an answer seventy years later we see the real risk of partition only in two or three this is because many people in europe don't know as he told he does what is the tribal situat

last months maybe we're going to have lost one point or two but the one who is collapsing is mr berlusconi forty eight alya that i had in the last election thirteen only interested in your party very well represented in fourteen percent of the votes during the last election and now it's around six seven percent so almost all the new voters that are supporting mr selvin action are coming from force a value of mr berlusconi and yet you're so worried about your image that you've taken to attacking the italian media luigi dean myers says some papers are polluting the political debate every day i don't read italian newspapers to be informed he said but only to understand how they want to attack us welcome to democracy just because the if you don't like the heat why are you in government sorry to say that but here are what was then and said it was not the role of media because we always fought for free media's independency and free of opinion what we did. didn't have. to you on the president you have like a real life i would like to answer if you allow me without blocking me every thirty seconds

tech guy in the u, and one day, through the italian ambassador in london, i had been confronted by berlusconi, who at the time, for the first time, was the prime minister. -- he was looking for an international manager, italian. francine: did you meet him? paolo: i'm a him in the embassy first, then a few months later, give me a call, give me a meeting. it was a saturday, if i remember. francine: what was he like? paolo: he was in very good shape. he has been a hiring manager for all of his life, so he had the attitude not of the political man, but of someone looking for a manager for his company. at thee: when you look energy space and energy industry, do you think investors underestimate or overestimate the change of pace? paolo: the investors are not looking at what happens in the next three or four or five years. realyou look ahead, the question is when renewable will take the place of oil in the industry, and this is a question still under discussion. francine: and do you think it will take a little bit longer than people expect? paolo: my view is very simple. as, athat as long lunchtime

living in the u.k., and one day through the italian ambassador in london, i have been contacted by berlusconis that time for minister, and he proposed to .e to join enel he was looking for an international manager, time, so i joined enel. francine: did you meet him and speak about it? paolo: yes, i met him in the embassy first. a few months later, he gave me a meeting in rome, a saturday, if i remember, made me the proposal. francine: what was he like? paolo: well, he was in very good shape. of, he had been hiring managers all his life, so he had the attitude not of the political man, but of the entrepreneur who was looking for a manager for his company. francine: when you look at the energy space and the energy industry, do you think investors under or overestimate the change of pace? paolo: let's say investors are not looking to what happens in the next three or five years. when you look ahead, the real question is when renewables would take the place of oil. this is a question which is still under discussion. everyone has his own views on it. francine: do you think it will take longer than

maybe he wants to attract many moderates, who are lost at the berlusconi is partner in the center-rights. wolf covering him cells in the clothing of a sheep here. up aine: i want to bring quote from your piece which read having ended their flirtation with the exit, they seem to be doing the same with their gargantuan fiscal stimulus." entrepreneurs, and entrepreneurs want a good stock market, so they will never jeopardize the stock market, is that fair? >> that is fair. the base of the northern league is in the north, which is the richest part of italy there is there was a lot of anxiety about possibly spooking the stock market, and what would happen to government bond yields, which shot to three-year percent for the 10 year bond. this is suggesting some caution. we don't have the final figures yet. there will still be a lot of 2.8% labor deficit target, or if we will see 1.5%. we still don't know where they will land. this is a work in progress. the change in tone to three months ago is remarkable. francine: quite a change. fernando, thank you for joining us. it is time for single best