berma? and we quote people saying that in the book.as a hawk and backed president obama on several things, on libya, the afghan search, on getting bin laden. we have a section in the book where director panetta has to talk to her and get her buy-in on the bin laden raid because he knew that she would back the president. these are things that she should point out should she run for the presidency. >> one of your early leaks about the book, not leaks but excerpts is it begins in the wake of the 2008 campaign for hillary. it's called "hillary's hit list" so that friends could be rewarded and enemies punished. john kerry, jay rockefeller, claire mccaskill, ted kennedy, patrick leahy. you know that all politicians do this to a certain extent but do the clinton aides do this more than your average politician's aide? john? >> well, you know, they are much more clinical about it. they are keeping microsoft excel spreadsheets because they have come into contact with so many people over so many years that you couldn't keep it all in your head. o