. >> i think it tells a story of bernard and the scientist for you was something about bernard shaw river? he was six years old when he came here during world war i from germany. two months before we declared war on germany. he grew up in texas and joined the army air corps and a protege of general arnold the founder of the u.s. air force during world war ii. then went to work on bringing science into the air force. and he saw this what then would guarantee the piece because if we had it, we could deter the russians from doing anything and he ended up creating a nuclear stalemate. and neither side could get a surprise attack on the other because they would destroy themselves in the same process. >> in the book you talk about the resistance and can you talk about that? >> i have been tremendous resistance from curtis come with the herod days head of the strategic air command and the bomber from world war ii went over the edge in the israeli years and became a model of dr. strange love. so they read -- ran into tremendous resistance they overcame it. and eisenhower understood what they were