and you were -- you were i see bernard swartz here in the front of the room. you were kind of, i wouldn't say -- bernard swartz was a tyson acolyte in that sense because you were talking about the importance of infrastructure and to some degree industrial policy. where we are today and given your experience in both the clinton and you know somewhat within the obama administration although you're an adviser in that, not an official of the obama administration, what will do you think you won't have thought or won't have written at brie given your government experience? >> what would i -- no one knows in the audience what i wrote there. i would i guess to frame it in a way which relates to what we've been hearing today, i was involved very early on really in the definition of competitiveness. competitiveness as a term was not commonly used, believe it or not, a quarter of a century ago which is about how long i've been working on it and actually it was quite a foreign concept to economists who might think of something like cop pairtive advantage but those of us w