>> bernd junge( translated ): well, this is about being reintegrated into a normal life, and that meansat. so for me, yes, this is part of it. >> whitaker: this doesn't look much like punishment. >> junge ( translated ): yes, well, that's the german fairy tale. >> whitaker: after 15 years in prison, he's earned weekend leave for good behavior. he's on track for early release. in germany, 75% of lifers are paroled after 20 years or less. >> joerg jesse: if someone says to himself, it's a german fairy tale, if he doesn't commit any crimes anymore after release, it's okay. he can think about his imprisonment, what he wants. >> whitaker: joerg jesse is a psychologist by training. he's now director of prisons in mecklenburg-western pomerania, a state in north germany along the baltic, about the size of new hampshire. there are rich fields here, brilliant sunsets, and waldeck, the maximum security prison where bernd junge has served his time. should he have a future for himself? he took a life. >> jesse: yes, he should. >> whitaker: he should? >> jesse: he should. >> whitaker: jesse invited u