how long have you -- >> before jeff it was bernice casey and five months alone and they worked together for three months and she left in august so he's been alone since august. >> any since of when that issue would be addressed? >> that's a question for the departments. >> okay great. thank you. >> thank you. actually my questions would be targeted towards jeff. thanks for your -- >> >> >> hi jeff. >> hi. maybe you could start with supervisor campos. >> let's start with the staffing issue. any sense of when you will get the additional person so you have all the help you need? >> yeah i hear my supervisor walking up and does the hiring. >> maybe he could -- >> more details about that. >> so we got the rec out in record time but part of the issue is this position -- [inaudible] >> [inaudible] >> part of the issue is that expired list, so dhr is actually examining our job description and use another department's list for that. if not, if that doesn't work out they recommended we are able to hire temporary until that position gets filled. >> can you give us a sense because i don't want you