it's the great civil rights activist, bernice johnson reagan pointed out, one has to have separate homes and houses before you can forge a coalition. so when these groups came together, didn't usually go well. this was not a smooth alliance. for all of the ways that jim crow and -- african-americans and mexican-americans were distinct. they lived in separate neighborhoods, they followed different leaders, they embraced different priorities, they practiced separate religions or religious denominations, spoke separate languages. all these things separated them so nothing natural but a coming together of mexic-americans and african-americans. each group learned they'd needed each other just like organized labor learned it needed allies and white liberalled learn over time if they were going to keep electing their people they were going to need to take the issues of civilights activists more seriously. that was the foundation, and so what would happen was they would coming to for a meeting and yell at each other. you don't really care about our issues. too many of our programs are discussion