here is bernie being bernie.e: how does it happen that the top 1% owns almost as much wealth as the bottom 90%? my conclusion is that that type of economics is not only immoral and wrong, it is unsustainable. it cannot continue. we cannot continue having a nation in which we have the highest rate of childhood poverty of any major nation on earth at the same time we are seeing a proliferation of millionaires and billionaires. mark: bernie sanders does talk about other issues, but how potent will that core economic message be with democrats in caucuses and primaries? al: "the national review" has to be popping the champagne corks. we have heard for how many years -- democrats are socialists. now they have one. bernie is the real deal. i think there is a genuine appeal, populist appeal in america, anti-wall street, anti-big bank, anti-government. i think that there are limits to what bernie can do. i do not think he can get cultural conservatives and i do not think he is going to get latinos or blacks. mark: there i

it is not just bernie sanders. i wonder if it is possible for any candidate who is not a billionaire or who is not beholden to the billionaire class to be able to run successful campaigns. if that is the case, i want you all to recognize what a sad state of affairs that is for american democracy. >> what stances do you have on issues that make you a better nominee than hillary clinton? sen. sanders: we do not know what her stances are on all the issues, but this is what i can tell you -- i voted against the war in iraq. not only did i vote against it i helped lead the effort and are in many of the things i said back then turned out to be true. massive destabilization in the region. i am helping lead the effort against the transpacific partnership because i believe it continues a trend of horrendous trade policies which have cost us billions of decent-paying jobs. i helped lead the effort against the keystone pipeline because i do not think we should be transporting some of the dirtiest fuel in the world. we have be

i did send money to bernie cap -- bernie sanders' campaign.he majority of americans are middle-class. even the politicians the one in new hampshire, he's a very pro-middle-class republican, and he is being attacked viciously because his family gave him $200,000 to run for congress. this multibillionaire money is flowing into politics. it is really disrespectful and i think we need people more like o'malley to speak to the interests -- it is hard work when you are trying to uplift the country by way of every citizen, and that is what he is doing. i'm so pleased that he is in the race. i'm looking forward to seeing more about him as the campaign progresses. hillary clinton is on the board of directors of walmart. i think they're all about making the world safe for walmart. they don't even hire people full-time. there are no benefits. they make you sign a piece of paper saying you will not get health care or they will not hire you. we need a person like o'malley working for the middle class. host: a caller on the line for independents. caller: i

why bernie's got more support

a next door neighbor state for bernie sanders. the voters in iowa, the voters in new hampshire, these are the types of voters he is accustom to appealing to. he has a message to resinate to lower income rural voters. so the path of bernie sanders to the nomination, that's very difficult to see. the path to bernie sanders making some serious noise in iowa and new hampshire and causing some serious headaches for hillary clinton in iowa and new hampshire, that's not as hard to see. >> the -- bernie sanders faces a similar challenge that robert kennedy faced when he ran and gene mccarthy faced within the party, which is they didn't want to in any kind of personal kind of way attack president johnson. bernie sanders took a page right out of bobby kennedy's play book today saying this is not about hillary clinton and it's not about anyone else in the race. let's listen to the way bobby kennedy said this about president johnson back when he made his announcement. >> my decision reflects no personal animosity or disrespect toward presiden

bernie sanders is the ultimate anti-politician. >> it's not like bernie sanders is a dogcatcher.t 5:00 eastern time the democratic presidential field will officially double. speaking from his hometown of burlington, vermont, independent senator bernie sanders will announce his candidacy as a democrat for president

just like bernie sanders is doing it. you know bernie is loose.e covered bernie sanders for a long time. he's been on all the cable shows. but there's a lot of things people don't know about this guy. this was not a career path. this was something that really revolved in his heart. >> you know why bernie sanders does well? you know why he's done well on your show? because he's not calculating. it's who he is. now, it happens that who he is is the right thing to me at this point, as we start to talk about income inequality wage stagnation. but you're also seeing something else here. ben and jerry are up on that stage right now. what other candidate for president would have ben and jerry? >> and what other candidate would not run a negative ad? never. steve, this is really interesting. this is retail politics. the issues not personality bashing. not being negative going after the opponent. talking about what people want in america. how's that going to play outside of vermont? >> well i'll tell you, it's interesting. you look at the calendar for this

bernie sanders: no, that is punditry. weeks from now, we will deal with other issues, for example, over time so people who work more than 40 hours a week get paid. the trade agreement in my mind is a very bad idea. president obama follows president clinton in -- and bush and reagan in pushing the corporate agenda. they are wrong. i think the american people want it defeated. we need new trade agreements that protect american workers and not just wall street and corporate america. mark: the agenda that you laid out will require republican votes p are in are you optimistic and would your message to the president be, let the deal go down but let's all find a way for both parties to work on this agenda or is that not possible? bernie sanders: let's work on a new fundamental approach to a trade. in the meantime, let us rally the american people. the american people are clear and what they want is to rebuild the crime brought -- crumbling infrastructure. let's work on that. the american people want to raise the minimum wage to

bernie's about the people. this is a man who won re-election in vermont and never ran a television ad. he did nothing but town hall meetings. it's going to be interesting to see how he plays in iowa. when it comes to grass roots, this guy is as pure as it gets. >> our own ed schultz right where the action is. ed, thanks for the time. thanks for that info. you can, of course watch ed's full interview with senator sanders coming up at 5:00 eastern right here on msnbc. joining me now is david corn and eugene robinson. eugene, let me start with you. ed schultz saying bernie sanders does not want to get involved in the mud slinging of partisan or single party politics in the case of hillary clinton. do you think he can avoid that in the coming weeks and months? >> the can if he wants to, but the question is how far can he get? i have new orleans respectenormous respect for him and i think he's been a really good senator and he's a fascinating fascinating politician, a good politician as well. but i really have doubt

steve, how much impact will bernie sanders have?rnie sanders is most likely of any of the non-hillary candidates on the democratic side to give hillary fits in this democratic proses. >> shira, how much impact will he have? >> i think he could bring hillary clinton to the left. it's possible he places third or even second in iowa and new hampshire. i'm with jamal. i think the greatest impact he'll have on the race is on martin o'malley because there's a bigger ideological difference between bernie sanders and hillary clinton than there is between hillary clinton and martin o'malley. >> jamal, the impact of bernie sanders? >> he divides up the opposition and keeps hillary clinton from having to have a head-to-head contest and allows her to come through with 50%, 55% of the vote or 48% of the vote and win all these caw south carolinaes and primaries. >> steve karnacky shira center and jamal simmons, thank you for your time tonight. >> thanks. >> make sure you watch steve on "up" right here at 8:00 a.m. eastern right here on msnbc. >>>

>> oh, i think bernie -- >> nobody to pick up the pieces? >> it falls back to her, but i'm just saying the possibility. >> right now he's at 15% and she's at 60%. >> by the way, mccarthy who is in the low teens in january of '68. >> this was the vietnam war. >> history doesn't repeat itself. >> no. >> howard fineman with a definitive answer. wow, you're passionate. >> he's looking forward to this race. >> we want a fight. that's what we all want. >>> michael steele, thank you. coming up, we've got one in iraq. iraq is launching a major military operation to fight back against isis but the obama administration seems less than confident that they can do the job. defense secretary ash carter said iraqi troops lost the key city of ramadi because though showed no will to fight. those are fighting words and speaking of fighting isis, the republicans have a strategy called blame obama but don't count the troops. we'll get to that in the roundtable tonight and what's going on in houston while the fourth largest city is under water and california in

a late afternoon rally in bernie sanders' hometown. interesting that you set it up there and you talked about relatively small number of americans who may be on paper say they agree with bernie sanders. yes, higher concentration in the democratic party and a much higher concentration i think when you look at the first state that's going to vote on the democratic side iowa. the caucusgoer the most committed activist on the democratic side very liberal constituency, a state where hillary clinton had plenty of problems in 2008 and she game in third place behind barack obama and john edwards and from bernie sanders' standpoint a monumental challenge the possibility of maybe somehow some way beating hillary clinton but i think more realistically, if you want to talk about his prospects and what he can do here i think he's potentially better positioned than any of the other democrats lined up to run against hillary clinton to make her sweat and give her headaches. it would start in iowa an electorate, any electorate out there outside vermont

start with bernie sanders. guest: his entry into the race makes the democratic nomination battle more interesting. hillary clinton is way ahead and the chances are high she gets the nomination. his voice will be elevated in the debate about the democratic party. it the progressive wing of the party was wanting elizabeth warren to get in. and away, he is a surrogate for elizabeth warren. he has been an independent for decade and has succeeded politically in that way. he is a very rare bird in washington. he and hillary differ on health care, he once single-payer. she wants to make obamacare better. on trade, huge split in the party. hillary clinton as secretary of state was instrumental in the asia-pacific trade deal that the president wants and some democrats are against it. the unions don't like it and bernie sanders is dead set against it. i also want to respond to the collar on the question of money. it's true that he is not going to raise the money hillary will, i don't think that ceiling reason he can't ge

>> i'm not hung up on it. >> bernie gets 25. prediction pat? >> the turks are aiding the radical leftest leftists in syria directly aiding them. the israels are bombing them. occasionally the pro-government forces. saudis are attacking in yemen. i think there's a real danger, one, that assad's regime could be in very grave trouble. if that goes down, i think it would be a disaster. i also think there's a greater chance of expansion of this whole sunni-shia conflict and it's really metastasizing. >> that's an ugly broadcast. >> no. i think it's realistic. >> right. right. well, i'm going to go with a happier prediction. david cameron won big in the u.k. the conservative party has another five years. i think he won because he listened to the voters. and the voters were demanding a referendum on whether they stay or get out of the european union. and cameron does not want that to happen. so now he's going to have to embark on his next campaign, which is to convince the u.k. to stay in the e.u. >> tom rogan, be quick. >> in the coming days, david c

>> you almost feel sorry for bernie, paul. here he jumps into it razzas a self-prescribed socialist. all his policies tickle progressives yet when he made his announcement these groups on the left said it's nice bernie got in but we want elizabeth. that's a reference to elizabeth warren the massachusetts senator. that's who they see as a person who is ride in on their issues and bernie sanders, he's just not their guy. >> well he's 73 years old, and he doesn't have a huge following other than what he gets on msnbc and cable tv if you listen to him. >> a relatively unknown senator can build hillary for the nomination. that's not his problem. i think his problem is he's looking for people who have problems with obama. he's not liberal enough. >> the people who are his natural constituency are already in the camp of somebody else. >> so what is it that he's going to run on? what do the liberals want? >> it's interesting, because as a devout socialist, you would think there would be a great gulf between what he's advocating and wh

guest: the press loves bernie sanders. not because of his positions but because he is willing to engage. hillary clinton has felt that the presses out to get her. she is leery of the press. she wants to do a reset of her relationship with the press. host: has that happened? guest: hard to say. guest: a reset comes from the top. that is hillary clinton, does she want that? it's not clear. most of the questions she has taken were shouted at her. the number of questions you are taking. then carson is doing interviews. bernie sanders can't get off the phone. hillary clinton won't take any questions at all. jeb bush has been fairly available. scott walker less so. guest: where they are placing in the polls, there isn't inverse proportion. i think rubio is fairly accessible. he is doing well in the polls. host: let's go to laura in pennsylvania. caller: good morning. i want to say rush limbaugh made a very good point about the first black president. i think republicans need to make a big deal about being the first female or the

tell us about bernie's strategy.esn't have money, doesn't have a great base but he's got i a message and certainly consistent in his message after he goes after hillary clinton. >> reporter: yeah. absolutely. i think one of the things you'll hear from people is this idea that he has this message he's been talking about for his entire career. going back decades, focussing on income inequality wealth concentration, corporate power. things sanders has made his entire career around things that are suddenly coming back. income stagnation all things happening in the country now. they think this message that he's been articulating for years, he has great credibility on, is now showing in a way like never before. it's a twofold thing. number one, break clear of other hillary challengers. martin o'malley jim web, lincoln. they want to get it to if you don't like hillary clinton on the democratic side they want bernie sanders to be the default guy. they look at polling and say compared to o'malley web, chaffey we're doing bett

bernie sanders. the beltway media has been treating bernie sanders almost like a gadfly. but bernie sanders has been bucking that. >> the republican field grows larger with rick santorum and george pataki jumping in but are even the conservative media dismissing them as also rand? >> so it's not going to be a good run for someone like rick santorum who's been around for a very long time who's come in nearly last. >> well today, rick santorum announced the launch of another losing santorum for president campaign. >> maybe news outlets are just trying to winnow this crowded field. >>> "vogue," marie claire "cosmopolitan," and others swooning over the first potential female president. and one editor donating to the hillary clinton campaign. are they in the tank for her? >>> and a look at the denny hastert investigation. >>> iran begins an outrageous secret trial of a "washington post" reporter accused of trumped up spying charges. the paper's editor will be here. >>> plus he's hanging it up after half a century of folksy anchor in an increasingly shrill media universe who wi

. >>> then bernie's running. why bernie's got more support for graham, jindal, fiorina, kasich, and santorum combined. >>> i sit down with filmmaker martin smith to discuss his upcoming "frontline" episode "obama at war." >> our finger is on the trigger. >> "all in" starts right now. >>> good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. tensions are high in cleveland, ohio, tonight following the acquittal of cleveland police officer michael brelo in the 2012 shooting death of two unarmed black suspects. the verdict announced on saturday set off protests and fears of further unrest leaving cleveland's favorite son, lebron james, to step forward and urge calm. >> i think sports in general, no matter what city it is, you know, if something is going through a city that's very, you know, dramatic, traumatizing, any of that case, i think sports is one of the biggest healers in helping a city out. >> a city that is still mourning tamir rice, the 12-year-old boy shot and killed by a cleveland police officer this past november

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he is probably a better fit in iowa than bernie sanders.you can catch fire there he will have a chance. mark: speaking of bernie sanders, when he was 30 years old he wrote an essay called "man and woman" which open to graphic references to rape and sexual assault. john, many people on the right and some on the left are not really happy with his essay or excavations about what he wrote. are his words are problem and should they be? john: i have read the essay four or five times and i have a tough time making heads or tails of it. his office says it is satire but that does not mean it is not a real story. there is no statute of limitations on residential politics. i think it is a legitimate story. he should talk about it -- bernie sanders, not his office -- he needs to express this and explain what he was thinking when he wrote this. john:mark: this is something that if he is going to play in the big leagues he will have to deal with. i suspected if he show strength, there will be rival campaigns for his fast. past. this essay has generated a

so for jehmu on the left and bernie sanders, crazy bernie sanders to argue it worked back then no it didn't. because we actually didn't do it. right now, if we did it you know guys like elan bill gates, they wouldn't exist right now because they'd say, oh my gosh my fortune is being taxed at 90%, no thank you. i'll move on and do the next thing. >> we just look at the basics and the government takes 9 out of 10 dollars that you earn out of your pocket so it can spend it what does that do to the economy? >> it cripples it. we're going to see jobs lost. as a result we're going to see our nation's richest people leaving. the ones who are supplying a lot of these jobs. i think that's something that, you know bernie doesn't recognize here. and honestly bye-bye bernie instead of bye-bye wealthy people. because we need them to keep our economy going. and right now we can't afford to lose any more jobs. we have one of the highest unemployment rates, even though the president wouldn't tell us that because he's not accounting for all those people who are no longer getting in to those lines any

he's got hillary on one side and bernie on the other. he's not going to out left bernie.be more progressive than bernie sanders. he's got to find that choice. he was wnone of the biggest cheerleaders for hillary in 2008. what's changed? the second and most important problem he has is the hometown. >> given the events in baltimore, a lot of citizens in baltimore do not support this effort, certainly state wide. i think there was a state wide pole poll, 69% were like no we don't think. if your hometown says if you come back there may be riots, that's a problem. you can expect a smaller turnout. a muted response to his presidential bid. >> look at the front page of the post. baltimore's blight has o'malley on the defensive. that's not a -- this guy is going to make good. >> he had to do this. you got to own it. it's your hometown you can't be see announcing it somewhere. >> he was in europe and he came back to walk around baltimore and didn't get a good reception. it's particularly because of the policing some of the controversy around his policies. he's got to get out of th

the likelihood that bernie sanders could do excellent is high. likelihood it could hurt hillary clinton is not likely. what does it tell you that the notes, the themes are sounded before the season begins in ernst, when a couple of years ago the democrats were being thumped in the midterm elections? >> i think it's clear that hillary clinton has an unassailable brand. she doesn't have to do political marketing. she doesn't have to do advertising. she has a brand established over the last 20 years, it allows her a level of mall yabilityy on issues that few have. the democrats got bounced, shellacked as president obama put it during the midterm elections. they won in 2012, 2008 and hillary clinton represents the ability for national level democrats to push left and right whenever it's convenient and not lose the political integrity. does this mean that the suspicions held by hard core progressive democrats will be allied this time. they believe that hillary clinton is one of them. >> they shouldn't. there's a democratic issue and a campaign issue.

host: bernie sanders is 73. guest: the first important point is the optics around why she's running. is she running because she is so ambitious that she just can't help herself or is she running because she wants to do good things for this nation? you're going to get a different answer from just about everybody you talk to. and one thing that drives me a little nuts about hillary clinton and the advisors around her is that they don't know they have that problem. or if they do know, they're not doing much to address it. let's talk about the age back to her. what is really interesting here is that hillary clinton is 68 so it is not like with all of the respective 68-year-olds, she is a spring chicken. joe biden, 72. the last three presidents of the u.s. were 44 when they were elected. is america ready for grandma and chief? i don't know. and that's going to be a really big question in this election. guest: and my guys are going to say because of ambition and she's been doing this since 2005 and that's why she's wa

and senator bernie sanders joins us. welcome to this week. why are you the best choice for president of the united states. >> for the last 30 years i have been standing up for the working families of this country and i think i'm the only candidate prepared to take on the billionaire class which controls our economy and the political life of this country. we need a political revolution in this country involving millions of people prepared to stand up and say enough is enough. >> does that mean hillary clinton is part of the billionaire class? >> it means that hillary clinton has been part of the political establishment for many many years. i have known hillary for 25 years. i respect her and i like her. but i think what the american people are saying george is that at a time when 99% of all new income is going to the top 1% and when the top 1/10 of 1% owns almost as much warmth as the bottom 90% maybe it's time for political shakeup in this country and go beyond establishment politics. >> you're asking for a lot of shakeup. is it possible for

the other bad bernie on the list bernie madoff. 150 years. champ honored in the bronx over the weekend. number 51 also noted jazz guitarist. number three, another musical bernie and he just turned 65. some of elton john's biggest hits including your song and crocodile rock. i'm not going to do your rendition this morning. number four personal favorite, the character, actor best known as dock. appeared in nearly 250 love boat episodes. a navy man in real life certaining as a librarian aboard the u.s.s. iowa. number five who could forget weekend at bernies. as for what this all has to do with sanders big presidential rally this afternoon? nothing. to quote the late bernie mack, i want to have fun. that wraps up the run down. watching the briefing at the top of the hour from houston mayor. until then, take care. american express for travel and entertainment worldwide. just show them this - the american express card. don't leave home without it! and someday, i may even use it on the moon. it's a marvelous thing! oh! haha! so you can replace plane

sure, that's bernie sanders. all right, fine. (laughter) there we go!ow will this two-term senator this eight-term representative, this full-term curmudgeon battle the incredibly powerful clinton machine? >> let me just make a brief comment and i will be happy to take a few questions. we don't have an endless amount of time. i've got to get back. (laughter) >> jon: with charm! (laughter) that was his presidential campaign announcement. not so much yes we can and more like let's just get this over with. i'm a busy man! busy running is anti-hillary. he's a centrist he's a leftist. her campaign is managed to a t! he forgot his comb! (laughter) she has almost 100% name recognition! he is somewhat lesser known! (laughter) she has a private server in her home where she deleted tens of thousands of her own e-mails. he owns a vhs copy of tootsie. (laughter) she has a set of consistent principles that he has -- he has a set of consistent principles he has run on his entire political life. she... is going to crush him! (laughter) there is nothing that can stop he

>> i think bernie sanders will surprise people.ou will have a bigger voice than people give him credit. or mark: why du think for? . r. mark: why du thinkdo you think that? >> i like his policies and he answers the questions. mark: do you like them to take more progressive positions? >> yeah. mark: will it take an effect? >> she has to lead more to the left now. mark: is it anymore to the liking of hillary clinton? you would like it more if he could be the nominee? >> oh, yeah. we have a citizens united america. we need to raise a lot of money. there is so many characteristics where he does not stand a chance. mark: do you think about bernie sanders? >> i don't know much about him. mark: martin o'malley? >> governor of maryland? mark: former governor of maryland. what do you think about him? >> i don't know much about him. he sounds like a good guy. i just have not really read too much of his stances lately so i can't say. mark: charlie? >> i know he is a bit opposed with hillary on some issues. i land somewhere in between bernie s

bernie sanders entering the democratic race.e are opening up our phone lines to hear your thoughts of what he brings to the presidential race. we do apologize about the video going in and out. here's how to join the conversation. you can also leave your comments at facebook.com/cpsspan. and can also send us a tweet. but let's hear from you, what does bernie sanders, the second into the democratic race have for you? caller: i am really into his devout this is what the republicans -- they should've gotten rid of holder a long time ago. they sold us out. i'm very upset. giving millions of dollars to foreign countries when we starving here. i wish my party would get it back home -- a backbone is stop cowering to special interests. host: bernie sanders coming onto the stage a little bit earlier than expected. we will show you the holes each a little bit later. caller: i am so fired up and excited. the progress is not if we of more than those who have much but if we provide for those who have little. he has the boldest agenda, to see

the next four years at bernie's." [ cheers and applause ] sai hi, bernie!> forbes. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: for more election news, a lot of people have noticed that jeb bush, marco rubio, and ted cruz are taking steps to appeal to hispanic voters. it's easier for bush and rubio, who are both fluent in spanish. but not as easy for ted cruz, who, as he puts it, "can speaks'spanglish.'" [ laughter ] yeah, you can tell his spanish needs some work. i mean, take a look at his most recent campaign ad. ♪ [ speaking foreign language ] [ laughter ] >> jimmy: he wants to make tomorrow yesterday. >> steve: yeah. >> jimmy: we've all worked hard to make tomorrow yesterday. >> steve: make tomorrow yesterday. >> jimmy: absolutely. >> steve: and then unleash the american dream. >> jimmy: yeah, exactly. check this out, you guys. i read that "furious 7" just became the highest grossing movie of all time in china. [ applause ] highest grossing film of all time in china -- of course, in china, "furious 7" is about seven dads who just found out their kids aren't going to medical

liz: have you ever met bernie sanders? this is a guy with something to say, and this is an opportunity for him on a national scale to say some of the things he wants to say. he has definitive opinions about wall street, about corporate america, about how he feels about the american middle class and how he feels about the poor being left behind by our government. this is his chance to stand up and say what he feels. he will get attention because we only have two official at this point. host: later today we will have three and c-span will be covering it. liz: but unlike the republicans, who at this point has somewhere between eight and 27, it is harder for them to get their message out, but if you're a democrat, it is a wide-open field and it is a chance to have a bully pulpit and have some cameras. ford: one of the things is hillary clinton has near universal name id. the chance of her not when the nomination is next to impossible. she is going to be the nominee barring something outrageous -- whether she gets sick, whateve

bernie sanders is a cause candidate. while he doesn't have gobs of money, which is another reason rick santorum can run, if he has one person spending a lot of money on a superpac that can keep him alive, the donations might not keep him alive, but bernie sanders has people supporting him who really believe in him and who are willing to go out there and work hard for him sort of like what rand paul had going for him last time. so the barriers to entry have lowered. jimmy carter in '76, ronald reagan in '76, almost takes down an incumbent. john mccain in 2000. as long as there's a narrative they can hook on to, they'll stick around for the ride. >> how much importance do you attach to the idea that has gotten considerable discussion that people run for president because the speech fees go up, the book contracts come, they're seen as larger people on the american stage because they're presidential? i'm not sure that all these people are doing it for that reason. i just have never seen so many people who it's hard to envisi

to your point, if they are worried about bernie sanders, what does it say about o'malley? he is doing what you do if you are going to run for president, and he is at 1%. he just announced he will get attention this year, but he is at 1%. >> the joke in washington is he is mounting a big presidential campaign for omb director or some kind of cabinet post. it's unclear. i think a lot of people are questioning where his space is, and sanders is catnip for liberals and giving them everything they want to hear, and o'malley can't be more of a left version of hillary clinton, and that doesn't win you votes especially since he will have an awful hard time raising money, and one donor said pointblank, why would anybody give to martin o'malley unless he is going to give vp, and it costs money. >> a lot. >> maybe he won't be omb and be on the short list of the vp candidacy. what he is trying to do, you hear him and people around him, compare him to gary hart. he is the i am the data-driven progressive, and that doesn't really excite anybody, and sanders has the progressive market co

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i think bernie will get a lot of her support. you will see a lot of protest vote against hillary clinton and people voting for bernie sanders. there are other democrats the will probably get in the late -- race. the thing about bernie sanders is he will talk a lot about the billionaire class. americans are funny about wealth. they don't like this idea of candidates appearing to be bought and paid for by billionaires but if you turn this into a class warfare festival that can turn people off in some ways. everybody wants to do well and get ahead. ultimately, it might backfire if it becomes too much a part of the race. host: let's go to houston. good morning. caller: good morning. good morning. america needs overhaul and i think bernie sanders is it. he talks about social security and making sure that america pays back into it. he talks about the patriot act. he talked about the racism that's going on. obama is not handling it correctly. he has talked about the military-industrial contest -- complex. eisenhower said it would be the

start with bernie sanders.uest: his entry into the race makes the democratic nomination battle more interesting. hillary clinton is way ahead and the chances are high she gets the nomination. his voice will be elevated in the debate about the democratic party. it the progressive wing of the party was wanting elizabeth warren to get in. and away, he is a surrogate for elizabeth warren. he has been an independent for decade and has succeeded politically in that way. he is a very rare bird in washington. he and hillary differ on health care, he once single-payer. she wants to make obamacare better. on trade, huge split in the party. hillary clinton as secretary of state was instrumental in the asia-pacific trade deal that the president wants and some democrats are against it. the unions don't like it and bernie sanders is dead set against it. i also want to respond to the collar on the question of money. it's true that he is not going to raise the money hillary will, i don't think that ceiling reason he can't get

it sounds like quite a weekend at bernies. somebody had to say it. >> you took a bullet. >> i think it is correct to say if a republican had written something like this it would be all over the place. every other republican would be told they had to denounce it and it would show up at a debate. >> didn't newt gingrich write something like this? >> no. >> he wrote something weird yes, you're right. i agree with charles cook. he said that is actually awful if it was a republican they would have to do that. he says republicans shouldn't do the same thing which i stepped to agree -- tend to agree with. i think the constant hypocrisy should be called out and pointed out. but beyond that i don't see any point in attacking bernie sanders. >> this is frightening because they got paper to get this guy and try to get him in trouble discredit him. what they are looking at now all of this information people are putting up on electronic media, he will be there forever. a lot of it. what will people do 20, 30 years from now who are doing st