bernie's -- crystal's right. bernie's at his core is an economic populist. he's an essentially unreconstructed '50s leftist, which is fine. but that is not enough. that is simply not enough. in order to appeal to working class people, yes, you have to be an economic populist. if he was president of the united states right now, this country would be a lot better off than it is. but the truth is you cannot throw everybody's personal and cultural rights under the bus just for the sake of this. it has to be a big tent. we have to continue to have a big tent. >> joy, i just want to clarify. that's not what i'm advocating for here at all. i think this party needs to be first and foremost built on two pillars, economics for working class people and multiculturalism, pluralism, civil rights, equality. those are the bedrock pieces of this party. if you are there, if you are a democrat, we back you. but in places like east kentucky and nebraska, et cetera, let's be realistic, if we want to be a coastal party, a regional party, we've got to say you have to be with us 1

like bernie sanders to run.oles show, including i think even one fox one, the incredible popularity of bernie sanders in won the could have actual presidential race if you were running against donald. so why not push for him to be within the democratic party? >> there is no doubt that donald trump devastated the republican establishment for a few weeks. as soon as he moved to the white house, he brought it back. you brought back wall street, brought back the billionaires, military-industrial complex. what has happened, consolidation of a far, far right wing -- let's be honest, donald trump is a gangster in character. he is a neil fascist in the making. he is very dangerous. we do support a multiracial coalition against donald trump, but at the same time, the democratic party refuses to engage in self-examination, in soul-searching, was to do the same thing over and over again and keep the personnel and leadership. therefore, the last thing we need is another neoliberal technocratic centrist running for the democ

, bernie!still have two minutes left, all right? come on. all right? so maybe you came, though, because you're curious about the new dnc chairman and the future of the democratic -- >> so the come together and fight back tour wraps up today in las vegas. but about that come together part. bernie sanders may not quite want to be together. >> you're on this road trip now with the head of the dnc. reforming, reviving, transforming the democratic party. do you consider yourself a democrat? >> no, i'm an independent. >> msnbc political reporter, alex seitz-wald, has been following the tour. joins me now. so alex, you had a much retweeted and shared tweet that actually the rnc was sending around with a bunch of other tweets called clean up on aisle bernie, saying sanders puts out a statement saying it's imperative to elect oshoff. >> this was the congressional election. bernie sanders was asked if john osoff -- especially because the next day, bernie sanders and keith ellison, the deputy chair of the

dear friend bernie shine. bernie shine is a whole story in himself. if you've read any of pat's works and i'm sure most of you have, that's why you're here, his friend bernie appears in a lot of them. bernie is just the most outrageous person that ever lived so he and pat were in total cahoots or i thought so until this afternoon. so in the last couple years, he had given up some of his bad habits. and so instead of having cocktails, he took up another bad habit, he would have a cigar. every afternoon sitting on the porch. and this is an upstairs porch that we have in our house, their little smoking porch i guess and so bernie and pat would have this wonderful discussion and we'd have this little david thing sitting on the daybed right by the window, they are right above me and i would love to hear it because they would both have some big mouse. loud, bernie as of noxious as all get out. but they would always have these great conversations about literature and they get into these heated discussions. until a couple summers ago, i had sort of a rough su

, bernie! >> you guys, i still have two minutes left, all right? come on. all right? so maybe you came, though, because you're curious about the new dnc chairman and the future of the democratic -- >> so the come together and fight back tour wraps up today in las vegas. but about that come together part. bernie sanders may not quite want to be together. >> you're on this road trip now with the head of the dnc. reforming, reviving, transforming the democratic party. do you consider yourself a democrat? >> no, i'm an independent. >> msnbc political reporter, alex seitz-wald, has been following the tour. joins me now. so alex, you had a much

winter i decided to apply for a summer internship with bernie sanders. bernie, the revolution. when spring break rolled around i found out the budget for the french department was being cut and might not be offered as a major any longer. i saw this as a sign so we applied to the university of wisconsin madison to transfer to the junior year and i was accepted. i got the bernie sanders internship, the burlington congressional office. bernie sanders, john kerry, barack obama, just saying. in burlington, around the liquor store, i woke up to see a spider i had crushed in my sleep. it didn't matter, nothing had been more exciting, it was an election year, bernie was in the office a lot and met with constituents more than any politician i have known since. i answered phones and took down notes from voters, at nights i would call people in all parts of vermont trying to raise money. i wasn't supersuccessful but did a great job reminding people to register to vote and telling them about the bernie events he would be doing around the state. from time to time, he looked the same way he

bernie, the revelation. when spring break whirled around and found out that the budget for the french department was being cut in it might not be offered as a major any longer. i thought this was a sign so i reapplied to the university of wisconsin madison to transfer in my junior year and i was accepted.a few weeks later i also got the bernie sanders internship. working for major congressional office. bernie sanders, john kerry, barack obama. just saying. [laughter] the internship did not pay when is able to stay with friends in burlington in an apartment on south street behind a liquor store. i slept on a futon in more than once with odysseus better at question my sleep. yes. so gross! but it did not matter. nothing had ever been more exciting. it was an election year so bernie was in the office a lot and he met with constituents more than any politician i've known since. i was kept very busy which i left. i answered phones and took down notes from voters. i faxed press clips, i filed. an identical people

that winter i decided to apply for an internship with bernie sanders. bernie, the revolution. with spring break rolled around i found out the budget for the french department was being cut and it might not be offered as a major. i thought this was a site so reapply to the university of wisconsin madison to transfer in my junior year. a few weeks later i also got the bernie sanders internship working may through august and his congressional office. unlike -- and politics. bernie sanders, john kerry, just saying. the internship did not pay but i was able to stay with a couple of friends in burlington and apartment on south street on a liquor store. i slept on a futon more than once woke up to find a spider? sleep. it's so gross. but it didn't matter, nothing had ever been more exciting. it was an election year so bernie was in the office a lot and he met with constituents more than any politician i had known. i answered phones and took down notes from voters. at night i will call people at all parts of vermont trying to raise money. i was in super successful but i did a great jo

bernie. bernie. bernie. bernie. >> we have two minutes left, all right, come on, maybe you came though because you are curious about new dnc chairman and future of democratic policies. -- >> well bernie wins that one, joining us now. political analyst, tapper gayle trotter, washington time opinion editor, charlie hurt. let's start charlie with you, and that awful reception for perez, such a classy terrific kind of positive guy. i was shocked. >> is a cold hard reality for democrats, it should come as no surprise, this is a party that used their arcane rules to rig the last primary, last year to steal the nomination away from bernie sanders. bernie sanders absolutely would have won the nomination, if they did not get involved. and rigged it for hillary clinton. and so, you know that party is this broken and disunited should come as no surprise, anyone that thinks party hit rock bottom, i don't think they are considering how much worse it can get before it gets better. lou: things appear to be getting

kennedy: more about bernie, leave it to bernie sanders to cause infighting among democrats. vermont senator is backing the democratic candidate for mayor in omaha, nebraska? what's the problem? the candidate as you see there happens to be pro-life. dnc chairman tom perez is having none of it, saying all democrats should be pro-choice. but when house minority leader nancy pelosi was asked about it, she says should democrats be worried that they didn't get on the same page over an issue so close to their hearts? joining me now, katie pavlich. what's up? welcome back. let's talk about this a little bit. normally these abortion missteps are the realm of republicans. it's rare for democrat to fall out of line with each other on one of their favorite issues. katie: nancy pelosi is lying when she says democrats can be pro-choice and still remain in the party. it's not just that they are pro-choice. they are viciously pro abortion. they can't even detail any reasons why there should be restrictions on abortions. they argued in their party platform repeatedly that women are entitled

back to bernie for a second.know, trump is essentially someone who invaded the host organism of the republican party and bernie sanders whole goal is to purge the party of clintism. >> i think he's on his way to doing that. thank you all, dan, yamish, glenn. appreciate it. after the break, the campaign ad prop candidates hope is a sure shot for success. stay tuned. where's jack? he's on holiday. what do you need? i need the temperature for pipe five. ask the new guy. the new guy? jack trained him. jack's guidance would be to maintain the temperature at negative 160 degrees celsius. that doesn't sound like jack. actually, jack would say, hey mate, i can't meesh oh yeah. that's jack. is to always keep track of your employees.r micromanage them. make sure they're producing. woo! employee of the month! you really shouldn't leave their side. vita coco coconut water, hydration comes naturally. >>> well, in case you missed it, politicians on both sides of the aisle have been sticking to their guns in campaign ads for so

so bernie sanders -- i know bernie sanders supporters, if you can believe that. so many of them that i know are friends of mine are so angry and feel like the election was stolen from bernie sanders and if the dnc had done their job, they didn't want tom perez. they think there's this big conspiracy within the establishment dnc to take away the socialist agenda from the rightful ownership of this base of core supporters. so where the democrats go at this point? it looks like socialism. it looks like this hardcore base may be where they pull them too. any chance of making up the difference between these uber drivers you two were talking to -- i never talk to my uber drivers -- i never talk to them. >> easternpean. >> looks like they won't maybe up the gap. whether you like it or not, i don't believe that bernie sanders could have beaten donald trump. he's message is too radical. america is not a socialist country and it's not going to turn to one. >> the energy and the passion of the democratic party has been for a while with elizabeth warrens and the bernie sande

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people like bernie sanders and keith ellison. they are trying to expand social security, medicare for all. i think we witnessed at the last march there was a resistance recess. up to ask showing their congressperson not just about protecting obamacare not just about building on obamacare which i think is a necessity. there is medicare for all, building health care in this country as a right but also as a privilege. i do think from resistance to reconstruction that is part of the mantra i wake up with. >> did you see any of that with the candidates in a district even though republicans won in the margins? >> absolutely. is a ruby red district, i think the margins show that there is a resilience, momentum and energy. that thetanding is democrats need to take back 24 house seats in 2018, of 23 of those they are districts hillary clinton won that are occupied by republicans. there is momentum, there is a re-engagement, people are not willing to let others do their best. as we are stepping up have seen. be -- it is out of crisis there

what does this say about the bernie sanders supporters in the room? is there still a schism within the donkey party? >> absolutely. all of us have been talking about this civil war in the gop, but no one wanted to talk about the massive division in the dnc. i'm friends with a lot of bernie sanders supporters. they are not over it. the populist socialist wing of the party wants nothing do with the establishment wing. now the dnc is paying for the way they treated bernie sanders it was unfair. kennedy: bernie sanders is going to iowa and getting injections. >> after jerry garcia died they have the further festival. but we do have to hold him accountable to what kristen said. we are suppose to be the divide party. event was called "come together." and they booed the chairman. if we threw and intervention for andy and showed up drunk. >> they sort of have two different bases right now. it's the bernie breeze for lack of a better term. and the hillary bots. i said on the show before i'll take the bernie breeze over the hillary bots any day of the week. i a

bernie sanders is the real draw here. i've also heard a lot of people say that they think bernie sanders supporters need to give tom perez a chance and need to get involved and be involved themselves that said, democratic party has stuck with bernie sanders whether they like him or not. he's one of the most popular politicians in the country. he won a huge portion of the democratic primary. they are going to have to work together one way or the other. >> and bernie sanders is still registered as an inpeent. >> reporter: exactly. he reiterated that this week which csed concern as did his decision to say that jon ossoff is a progressive and campaigned for a mayoral candidate in omaha. even some bernie sanders supporters said they would like to see him as a democrat. and tom perez democrats and we'll see if they can pull it off. >> that's a good point. alex seitz-wald, thank you. we'll be watching. >>> will the president's health care plan be met with open arms on both sides of the aisle? >>> and the nation's health care sys

berni bernie! >> you guys, i still have two minutes left, come on, all right? so maybe you came because you're curious about the new dnc chairman and the future of the democratic party. david: and that's democrats against democrats. steve, outside of fox aren't you really just hearing one side of this? >> absolutely, two main reasons for it, one is the obama administration didn't deliver on the promised land of permanently liberal government and the second, the mainstream media is being hit by the rise of the internet so they're more desperate than before. and even though they're biased and alternatives are out there, the fact of the matter is they're more shrill and having an influence because precisely they know long-term they're going out. david: john, are they having an influence, the media bias? >> there's always going to be the media bias, but let's be clear when you look back to when ronald reagan was president, three networks, pbs ap the new york times. >> now we have the internet, fox news, rush limbaugh and the way to get the right out. david: they do

either bernie sanders or joe biden. guest: what i hear from democrats on the coast and big cities, a lot of protests, a lot of anger. what i do not see a lot of introspection. donald trump ran on all of these things. 63 mine people almost voted for him. he won the election fair and square. host: as many people voted for barack obama as hillary clinton and that shows you where the map change. guest: there were more that did not vote for either in 2016 as opposed to 2012. a far lower turnout. democratsu look at standing in the interior of the country, what was fascinating for me when i analyze county by county the election votes was there was only one county out of 3000 in the country that voted for obama by 20 points in 2012 andvoted for donald trump 2016. it was howard county, iowa, along the border with i made some calls and it was interesting to talk to the democratic chair and republican there. and what i heard was there is one major employee in the town to that has been there for years. the donelson county which man

there is this thing that happens where bernie goes ahead and runs -- i call him bernie -- senator sanders goes ahead and runs. he is able to contrast with senator clinton so well because he has been saying the same thing on c-span since 1990. he has this credit. one of her big problems is this credibility issue. she's in different places. she negotiates the t.t.p. and comes out against it. as we write in the book, she doesn't say this is the worst thing that ever happened, she says these are the conditions under which i could support the t.t.p. you have this contrast point of ideological purity that i think the outside is looking for because they get tired of politicians telling them one thing one day and one thing the next. >> it talks to this, where secretary clinton is on the plane with her close aide, and she's trying to basically wrap her mind around the rise of populism that's happening around her. she doesn't quite understand what's going on. she's in a heart-to-heart conversation, she's having this talk where she doesn't understand, and i think that actually speaks to -- it's a gr

the nation endorsed bernie sanders in the primaries. someone who was covered for 30 years as a state rep, a congressman, someone we think his issues are the issues we have championed. norman thomas, who ran six times the socialist party president, was asked at the end of his life what he was of.dest of -- proudest driving his ideas into the democratic party is what he said. sanders fought hard at the end of the primary not to win, but to get his ideas into the platform, which is not just a piece of paper, it's informing our politics. i don't think donald trump -- look, on the populism question, it's a complicated one. there are many strands of populism. we do see right-wing populism ascending around the world for many reasons. a failure to speak to people who are angry who feel that their voices aren't heard, who feel left behind in a time of tectonic shifts. but donald trump is quickly being captured by goldman sachs, the bankers, the bombardier's and generals. i think that who he is is still up for grabs. he ran as a populist, but i,

and the question is if that's grassroots, bernie is right, because bernie appealed to those voters.but debbie wasserman schultz, what has she been imbibing since she stepped down from the dnc, because that's not the party she was running, and that's not how she viewed the voters out there. and is des moines perez any different -- tom perez any different than her? >> i think this is what came up in the battle for chair of the dnc, is how do you go at it and are they really appealing to the grassroots. now, the reason i said to you off the top grass roots is how we define it, guess what, there's a grassroots of the democratic party that's really more black, latino, asian, educated, whites, especially women who are strongly anti-trump, do not share the value of that blue collar voter who switched from obama to trump. so the question is, well, can the party expand its reach and stop dealing in what some people call identity politics, right? and start talking to that white, blue collar -- dagen: you've got to get away, and bernie sanders really pulled hillary clinton onboard with the $15

he came out to hear bernie sanders.people from bernie sanders' side, hillary clinton's side who want to unify the party and come together. i spoke to a woman who was a republican who came into the party because of bernie sanders. she became a democrat and has gotten involved locally in democrats and she thinks that bernie sanders' supporters need to come into the fold and not just wait for the party to come to them but to move to the party. it's a big tent. they lost. there's hard feelings. lots of blame and finger pointing to go around. it will be a long process but nothing unites them quite like donald trump. >> that is for sure. alex seitz-wald, very good point made. >>> a major political milestone in france is being overshadowed and possibly changed by the latest act of terror in paris. watch this. [ gunfire ] >> just terrifying video showing the chaos of thursday's killing of a police officer along champs elysees. france heads to the polls tomorrow to choose a new president. candidate marine le pen drawing internat

these rallies seem like bernie sanders rallies. perez was not the guy that bernie sanders wanted to be the dnc chairman. that was keith ellison. and let them vent a little bit and build that process. there's been a couple bumps in the road and it's going to be a long process before they get to a completely unified democratic party. >> alex, i know it's loud there. but is tom perez, as you've mentioned, he's a bit of an unknown. is he picking up the bernie sanders' shine? >> reporter: yes, he is. people were skeptical at first but then they hear him talk and say a lot of the same issues that bernie sanders is talking about, hearing this strong rhetoric. he's been dropping swear words in his speeches this week. they give him a benefit of the doubt. remember, the context here is that they blame the dnc essentially for rigging the primary process last year against bernie sanders. there's a lot of mistrust coming in here and perez is trying to rebuild that the same time he's trying to rebuild the democratic party as a whole after losses

. >> sounds like bernie. >> most european countries have a bernie.ermany, to a lesser extent. britain, with corbin. grease, portugal. and so, you have these two countervailing responses to the anxiety around neoliberal globalization. >> is it enough in it wasn't enough to save off a trump victory here. is the other approach, the other alternative enough? >> not yet. no. not yet. and in a few places it's done well. portugal and greece, it's done well. but i think what's important, in this moment, where there's a lot of despair everywhere, is to -- at least to realize that there is a response out there. and it is gaining an audience. it hasn't broken through yet in many places. but for people who think what is going to stop this? there is energy out there. and it's finding its place. >> you mention britain and brexit a couple times now. let me jump from france to written. so, terreheresa may wants early elections. she is trying to shore up her support, so she can engage the brexit conversation the way she wants to. talk about what you expect to happen

she really lost an opportunity there to use bernie sanders effectively on her behalf.have back fired but they certainly precluded finding that out. >> i'm a junky, i want to see that commercial. that's a great story. congratulations to both of you. "shattered", i think you owe the rolling stone royalties from it. it's a great book. i really appreciate you being here. keep tweeting me and commenting on my facebook page. we have two quick tweets that i can show you. what do we have. by the way, nobody with half a brain thought hashtag crooked hillary was going to win it. it was clear by june, #idiots. guess what, i am the idiot in chief. one more, please. smerconish, clinton lost because she didn't energize her base. sanders should have been her v.p. progressive platform but never talked about it. jason, having just read this book, i think it comes to the correct conclusion, too much reliance on data and not enough on feel and what was going on. there was a rural rebellion afoot and donald trump was able to capitalize on that and she couldn't. >>> still to come, even wit

the vacuum bernie sanders is riding up and loving minute of it. robert: when you think of that populism that senat sanders represents is that going to be the way for future democrats? >> who is the demographic and that will drive some of the policies that they tried to run on. the forgetsen man that everyone talked about during the 2016 elections the disenfranchised factory worker left by behind by globalization. is important to connect with those workers or the affluent centrist who are eating at panera bread -- robert: is that the new voter, the panera bread voter? >> the road to 2018 vs. the panera breads. that's the tough talk on trade and talking how about nafta is a disaster. these are voter who is travel to europe back to asia, enjoy the fruits of globalism in a way that the forgotten man. robert: suburban professionals. let's not forget the republican who is a top finishers karen handle in georgia. when i spoke to her down there she didn't embrace president trump. said she was more of a traditional republican. and senator heller and of cou

people who love bernie sanders, not people who love hillary clinton. they are going for the audience that screams the loudest. while that might be a smaller group, they are playing to that base and failing to take over the party. look at ossoff. they are playing to that base and ratings reflect that maybe it's not wisest choice in the world. but you are right, trump gives the and they give back it's like that couple want to break up. kennedy: trump claims it's fake news. we are doing an amazing job, and the press is saying he's the worst president ever, he needs to be impeached. >> the problem with all of the press, just campaigns for democrats all the time. it bothers me to think, here is the objectivity. it's like they are work for the democrat campaign. kennedy: it's like john harwood. >> when there is a survey of donations from people who work for media companies, it's more than 89%, 95% tilted towards democrat. that's the basic water in which journalism is swimming in. kennedy: the panel returns a little bit later. vice president pence says the u.

bernie sanders, great candidate. local and state officials who are democrats are wonderful, have not been corrupted, and got into politics for all the right reasons. i know someone in maine who runs a cash register and the whole community knows her so why do not want you to be overly cynical. when you talk about national democrats, they have been systemically corrupted by the money, not because they are bad people but because the races cost millions to hundreds of millions of dollars so they think, i need the bankers, the drug companies, the oil companies. i have covered it for over 20 years. and thenthat routinely vote in favor of the giant multinational corporations, because that is where their money comes from. host: tracy in minneapolis, a republican caller. caller: i used to watch you early on in 2007, 2008 on youtube and i really liked you back then. you supported a little bit of ron paul stuff and then i think you leaned toward obama and self are that. is, would we be in better shape as far as civil rights if

sanderst that bernie was the best choice for this country, because i liked his ideas and i think obama should help him with this party to push those ideas that he had for our country. i have nothing but the fullest respect for president obama. he did have a hard way to go. i think you should play an active role in helping our country just get a better playing field and get the special interest groups out of the mix. host: off of twitter, the viewer said this -- the previous color talked about the -- the previous caller talked about the current president's cabinet. julia is next from south carolina, democrats line. caller: yes sir. my name is julia, and for the eight years that mr. obama was in office, when he first came in office, it was a rough road because he had to get things straightened out. now that he has gotten things where they are more laid-back now we've for us, so got trump here and he is just a businessman. i read a lot of things about him. we need somebody as barack obama needs to play it because he is a political man, he knows how to run the job, he knows how to lay it o

there is zero indication that bernie sanders said they want to cut medicaid and medicare., there are republican budgets that have been put on the table in the past, but to be fair to the president he has said no. we'll see what happens when we get to that process. it's unfair to say the president wants to do that right now. >> i mean, bernie sanders in some ways sounds like a broken record. this is what he was campaigning on. this is what democrats -- you've heard from them all along. >> he thinks he would have one if the quote/unquote establishment. >> they don't have any sort of unifying message. you can tell in what he's saying. talking about the epa and climate change. i mean, the democrats have always thought that diversity was their strength. in many ways it's not. there are too many sort of competing factions competing demographics in many ways and you have republicans who have a very solid message in many ways. they have the presidency obviously and these voters are committed to donald trump. there are emotionally attached to his message. i think again from that tw

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the answer that bernie sanders is on that message, the guy who was energizing so many young people. to me it says that the fundmental nature of the system is that politician, the only way anything will fundamentally change in this country is if we get the corporations out of our political system. that is not an easy battle. i think that had barack obama opted into public financing in 2008 and feingold it would have been a shake up of the system. the bernie sanders moment, i think really showed how many people in this country understand the role corporations are playing in dismantling our democratic process. it's not the most sexy answer in the world, but if you are thinking about it from organized politics, it's not too late. talk about climate change, we are almost at the point of no return. donald trump is basically declared a war on the environment. king talked in that speech about, he uses the phrase, beautiful trees. he does. i found that so given that we just came off trump announcing he is dismantling the clekleen power plant and the keystone pipeline is going to be there. wh