what can we do for bernie is what can bernie do for us which is almost what order should that come in? >> bernie has taught us a language -- >> millionaires and billionaires. >> he can't use the millionaires part anymore. and someone who hopes to be receiving these, can't stand for that. there is a popular language and idiom, and these other new parties developing their own idiom too. it is just a tactic, populist rhetoric is a tactic, to pursue the old politics in a new way but that is what we have to follow but bernie and my mind is the american left. he has a mass audience. >> the american left isn't the third floor of the strand bookshop. >> it is the first. >> 60,000 people and fellow travelers in the broader network, 150,000 people can make a difference, strategically intervening in society so we can be the shock troops for a medicare for all campaign, a new labor struggle and solidarity and linking together parents and teachers in different areas so they play leading roles, and solidarity network and if you're a 24-year-old kid and come from a middle-class background, and solid

the same goes for bernie sanders. look, those are the two candidates who don't particularly need a breakout moment in this debate. they are both very familiar, well known to the american public. everyone else who is on that stage needs to figure out a way to stand out and part may be by positioning themselves in contrast with a bernie sanders vision which is much more progressive or take biden who is obviously going to be somebody who is more moderate. particularly those moderate candidates will want to offer themselves as an alternative to joe biden, particularly for people who feel like maybe joe biden is a little older, a little past his time, they are looking for fresh faces, those are the candidates who want to position themselves that way. >> all right. let's bring in senator chris coons to pick up this conversation where we left off. senator, on that question of, quote/unquote, moderate versus progressive, you know, those labels are a little bit imperfect in terms of talking about the vice president and bernie

so they may take it out on bernie to say, look, bernie sanders, you've had 30 years in the senate to a progressive agenda passed. you have failed on that. if you look at his record, he has no substantive bills on the campaign trail. and you are yesterday's news and they might want to work for the progressive party. joe biden, as jim rightly says, just needs to focus on what his vision is for the future. talk to the american people and maybe go at it with bernie sanders. but virtually ignore everybody else. >> cory booker showed -- jim, i wanted to say, cory booker was one of the people who had a good night. one issue was on guns. let's play a little bit of that. >> i think i'm the only one, i hope i'm the only one on this panel that had seven people shot in their neighborhood just last week. someone i knew was killed with an assault rifle. at the top of my block last year. for millions of americans, this is not a policy issue. this is an urgency. >> jim, that's an issue that is something that most of the democrats on stage could certainly chime in on. booker had a particular authenti

kennedy: bernie wants you to be a socialist. he made his big pitch today, the commies are happy as clams, will anyone be gul gullible enough to take the break. 15 dollar an hour minimum wage, breaking up banks and 90 trillion dollar green new deal, if that sounds very expensive comrade, it is. today in a hot leeanne it is --h in tc, bernie made his case. >> every american is entitle to the right to a decent job that pays a living wage. the right to quality health care. the right to a complete education. the right to as to affordable h, right to a clean environment environment, the right to a secure retirement, democratic socialism means to me, requiring and achieving political and economic freedom in every community. the only way we achieve these goals is through a political revolution. >> oh, bernie, notice he throws resolution in there, that is a bat signal. for every fake marxist bernie bro, who just wants to pickup chicks. bernie does not tell you how he will pay for his fantasy, a hints, he has to jack up everyone's taxes s

>> thank you. >> bernie, bernie! >> thank you, please, it does sound like rock hill, south carolina is ready for a political revolution and i thank you all. [cheers and applause] >> now, i love campaigning but the only problem that i have is that i always have got to follow nina turner and that's hard, and then you have danny glover there as well. so i i want to thank nina, dann, for allowing us to use this great college. thank you very much. what this campaign is about is a very profound concept, we just talked about it earlier today, meeting with local folks and somebody raised the issue of what we are entitled to -- there it was. humane are entitled to as beings in the wealthiest country on the history of the world. what are we entitled to? now i believe that what we must strive for is a government not based on racism, not based on sexism -- [cheers and applause] >> not based on homophobia. [cheers and applause] >> not based on xenophobia. [cheers and applause] >> and not based on religious bigotry. [cheers and ap

thank you all very much. [ cheering and applause ] bernie bernie bernie [ cheering and applause ] [ crowd noise ] 46th president bernie sanders . >> thank you bernie. i want to say thank you, senator . >> thank you . >> good morning, young lady. thank you so much. mr. senator, missed her senator, how are you doing? are you sure there are only a few minutes? >> yep. okay. thank you, senator. thank you. >> thank you so much. thank you. thank you . >> thank you . >> thank you. [ laughter ]. thank you so much . >> thank you [ laughter ] thank you, bernie. listen, thank you all very much. >> we love you thank you very much. >> in 1979, a small network with an unusual name rolled out a big idea. let viewers make up their own minds, c-span open the doors to washington policy for all to see, bringing you unfiltered content from congress and beyond. a lot is changed in 40 years but today that big idea is more relevant than ever on television and online, c-span is your unfiltered view of government so you can make up your own mind. but you by public-service cable or satellite providers . >>> today

any better numbers for bernie?suffolk poll that doesn't have a trend line, baeshds was at the same 15%, elizabeth warren was 10%. you might find bernie sanders ahead of warren, warren ahead of sanders. there is no aggregated polls. warren has risen from mid single digits in march to now double digits in june. bernie sanders went from double digits to 10. >> he hasn't seen a real challenge yet. we'll see what happens because everybody is starting to get loved up by the media one by one. beto, then kamala, then buttigieg, now warren. we'll see what that impact is. if you are bernie sanders and you're looking over your shol der at warren, why, what are you paying attention to? >> i think there are a few things i would point out that i'd be paying attention to. and this i think is a rather interesting thing that's going on. elizabeth warren has focused her campaign on issues. the policy plans, i have a policy plan for everything. this is a quinnipiac poll in april when warren was starting her rise. what did we see? whi

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sanders or elizabeth warren i think that sort of as loni was saying if it is bernie or if it's warren i think it's going to be putting forward an all encompassing platform that addresses not only the issues that have clearly cropped up while donald trump has been president but the issues in terms of health care and jobs and wages and all of that that were already a problem before we ever thought about donald trump in a political context whereas i think that of biden is the candidate i think it will end up being a tighter race i still think that he can win but i think that it will be playing on that obama in a stall judge in a stall just for things to go back to some semblance of sanity while also making sure at the same time that you're not doing too much to turn off more leftist or progressive voters i think it's often said that the the next president is a reaction to the previous president right so if you just looking at the state of the country looking at who we have in the white house right now who among the current democratic candidates would be the reaction to trump. well i thin

calling you crazy bernie, what does bernie sanders say on the stage? >> you can't ignore it.he point to be made to trump is we have a society right now in many respects which is socialistic, in the sense that the federal government spends a lot of money helping certain kinds of people. the problem is, we get billions of dollars in subsidies to the pharmaceutical industry, to the fossil fuel industry, in fact trump himself in his real estate company received massive amounts of subsidies and tax breaks. so what we say in response to the charge of socialism is you got socialism right now. martin luther king jr. said we have socialism for the rituch a individualism for the poor. so what i believe is a socialism that works for the working families of this country and trump believes in a socialism for wall street, the drug companies and big money interests. >> at the end of the day, you know, your concern has to be, you want the best ideas to win. but we know that's not always how it happened. one of the most indicative metrics of who wins presidential elections is who do you want

senator bernie sanders. [cheers and applause] >> we're always honored to have our elected officials who are here. i know our council women are in the house and we thank god for others who are here. we are also happy to welcome mr. danny glover, our friend to the campus of clinton college. i told him privately, and i will say publicly, how grateful i am for his powerful testimony on behalf of the long overdue national conversation on reparations. what an articulate voice he offers. [cheers and applause] >> and what a special honor it is for clinton college to host our second candidate for the highest office in the land. you are on hallowed grounds on one of the fastest growing historically black colleges in the nation. we are known as a beacon for leaders. once a junior college, clinton is now a four-year liberal arts college that has stood in this community for 125 years. ] -- [cheers and applause] >> give it up for clinton. thank you. thank you. thank you. >> like all hbcu's, we provide a path to success fo

morning, bernie is my candidate. my main comment is about the given an the dnc has exclusive contract to msnbc to broadcast the debates. somebody called yesterday and said that money is god and you really see it with the dnc. they are supposed to be for the people, for the working people but you see where there is money involved, they are just as bad as the republicans. if i cannot watch it on c-span without commercial interruption, i will not watch anymore. i think that was just ridiculous. i also remember when the league of women voters used to do the presidential debates. it seems to me that it was more fair and more dignified when they did it. i wish they had control over at this time. host: in the wall street journal this morning -- sal 15.3 million 15.3 million viewers for the first democratic debate. charged $100,000 for the ads. some are calling it the top-tier candidates that were debating last night. we are getting your thoughts on what they said and who stood out and who did not perform well. ?id you chang

that was because if the candidate had been bernie sanders they might have voted for bernie, to see whatu follow? listen to something today that i have to recommend. less and 1.5 speed. "the new york times" has a podcast called the argument and they take an issue in a debate both sides and you can decide on your own how you feel. today's was about socialism versus liberalism. it was the intramural fight. it was interesting, the guy he was representing socialist, the manager, he said we think bernie will get all the way up there and he won't win so we're hoping that then it will support biden. it's like all of this is for what? >> greg: what does it for? what is life about? >> emiyl: at the moment our entertainment. i think that the democrats obviously think biden is going to win. he think he is they want and that is their bottom line. that is why bernie's biggest challenge is convincing them that he can beat trout. he is not willing however to sacrifice his ideas, as far left ideas so that those in the middle won't back him and biden's biggest challenge at this point is convincing voters

up is she emerging as the progressive as alternative to bernie sanders and will her steady grind on the campaign trail pose a threat to democratic front runner joe biden we're taking a look on this edition of. them to politicking i'm matthew cook in for larry king former vice president joe biden remains the clear front runner in the race for the democratic nomination for the presidency not only is he well ahead of his primary challengers some polls actually show him beating donald trump in key swing states but something interesting is happening in the fight for 2nd place in the primary among the democratic candidates some polls and a few editorials show senator elizabeth warren gaining on sanders and suggest a cooling toward the vermont senator this as political analysts expect senator warren to perform very well in the upcoming democratic primary debate in florida so will that progressive ring of the party embrace warnitz sanders expense and what threat is she to joe biden for the democratic nomination let's talk about that with katrina vanden who will she is the editorial director and

rob: you saw bernie did good last night.biggest loser of the night, you thought biden had a rough night and gillibrand. tell us why. >> a lot of people -- i was in the hall last night, the energy was palpable and people would be coming after joe biden and kamala harris did not disappoint. i think he had a tough time defending his long record. anytime you've been in congress that long and voted on that much stuff you have to defend that record. as long as democrats concentrate on each other's record that would be a good thing. we need to distinguish the history of where these people voted and that was a big determination between bernie sanders and biden when they talked about the war. jillian: the candidates discussing donald trump. the first night, 19 minutes and 24 seconds spent discussing the president. last night it was eight minutes and 27 seconds. regardless of the time do you think it is the best idea to go after the president versus telling the american people who you are and what you are about? >> that is a great poi

so early matthew what we're endorsing is what we call the ideas primary and i think bernie sanders and elizabeth warren are winning that primary elizabeth warren has a plan for everything and i mean well thought through connected to her personal experience dealing with the true fundamental problems issues of this country bernie sanders ran a transformative campaign in 2016 and you got to give him credit that the issues he elevated medicare for all 15 minimum wage free higher education are now front and center in this debate medicare for all has several co-sponsors were running in the democratic primary including kirsten gillibrand kamel harris so i think let's hope for a virtuous competition around the ideas primary elizabeth warren no question has through her tenacity through her persistence and through rolling out a plan every week. driven her poll numbers up so i think she poses a real challenge both to joe biden and bernie sanders but for now the endorsement the nation is given as to the ideas from her and i love that the ideas primary that's a great way of looking at it and it's e

who bernie bernie sanders well i mean bernie was out here he's in he was just in charlotte or natural you know last week i mean he was down in the south as well i mean bernie has got a great platform that other people are now picking and choosing what they want from his buffet of ideas right but i mean the number one issue here is donald trump had run as a democrat he wouldn't be president because the democrats don't have winner take all primaries that's the whole issue here so on this side you know if you have so i just want to know what does that mean well i mean let's say you have 100 votes busy you know by argument and you know you run a max cars or gets 35 percent and then there's 23 other candidates behind you all the way down to one percent in a winner take all and if there were you know 10 electoral votes you'd get all 10 but in a proportional system you'd get point 35 times a tense you get 3 and a half so the way that i think that there diluting bernie's ability to win the primary is by adding candidates right so when they say they who are they i would say that powerful inter

kennedy: bernie trying to out berndty himself with free stuff give aways.ll there be chocolate milk in the drinking fountain, college will be free. bernie started this whole lark 4 years ago his communism fetish seemed like a punch line, he snatched primary states from hillary's icy craw, then robbing paul, and ringo for that matter to pay peter seemed swell. now everyone trying on the amazing technicolor commie cloak, it is easier to promise everyone everything than to alike grown ups and make meaningful budget cuts, bernie wants debt forgiveness and free college for everyone that is nonsense, there is no reason to jack up taxes for poorest two-thirds of country for higher education choices of fancier third who probably should have deferred college in first place, for those those people who busted their humps and lady lumps working multiple jobs, to pay off student loans why should the slackers get a free pass, especially those who den follow through and get a degree, which is half, should we be on the hook to pay for someone's community college to spin th

bernie sanders and joe biden are the past.k they should be going after each other with rakes and yelling at each other. what lessons do you think if any they learned from how it went last night. what lessons do you think the candidates learned to shape their strategy for tonight? >> i think some of the lesser candidates. some of the people who haven't been known to the public like mayor pete might have learned something from castro or from other contenders who were smaller and not as well known like tulsi gabbard who had shiny moments by letting the viewers know what they stood for. but the top contenders didn't have a clear path forward to the nomination. they were more out there to introduce themselves to the public. a couple of these folks had clear paths, and the gatekeeper is joe biden. melissa: the funniest detail was joe biden put out all these answers to attacks on him ahead of time, and no one answered him him. no one even remembers you exist and they don't mention you. maybe tonight we are giving him too much credit

that is senator bernie sanders.ing this conversation about medicare for all had it not been for his courage and vision. we would not be talking about a $15 an hour living wage. senator bernie sanders and the fight for 15 activists because he works in coalition with people got over 400,000 people a raise between amazon workers and disneyland workers. we would not be having this conversation if it were not for senator bernie sanders. some of those folks may have believed in those things but it's the difference between the copies and the original. senator bernie sanders is the original. >> well, put. strongly put. when you think about what he's going to do tonight, one of the things we learned watching him in '16 when i think it's fair to say he was underestimated. >> yes. >> he was is people say do you go negative or not. he doesn't go negative on democrats personally. he draws contrasts on policy. that's what the debates are supposed to be about. should we expect him to draw contrasts with biden or others about worki

bernie sanders went around the corner. see john hickenlooper over here but we have not seen kamala harris. what i think is interesting before bernie sanders before that moment between kamala harris and joe biden, it was bernie sanders who was getting most of the incoming in the first 15, 20 minutes which is interesting because he is second in the polls, not first. but it seem like a lot of the candidates were going after bernie, not biden until kamala harris decided to go all in on the vice president as you heard brightly out. as you heard, they are getting together some of the candidates asked about who's got the biggest crowds around them. one of the reasons we have a more crowded spin room and more electricity commit night two so you have candidates from last night out here trying to spend what happened last night and tonight as well as the candidates duking it out tonight. we get the reaction to bring it to you live, shannon. >> shannon: we will check back with your life, ed, that the floor of the spin room and preside

doctor, we're talking about bernie sanders. >> bernie sanders is part of the legacy.s part of that legacy, sister candice. that's what i'm trying to get you to see. it has to do with jobs, workers controlling at the workplace -- >> doctor, this is basic economics. you know that and i know that. >> quit spreading the lies about socialism. >> laura: we're tight on time here. i still say, cornel and candice both have to go the oval office. you have to spend some time with trump. >> i'll take you. >> laura: i'll sit and have popco popcorn. you have to spend time with him. throw away your ideas. you should do it. >> i'm a jazz man. i believe in improvisation and engagement with dialogue with anybody. i want people to get the facts right and truths right and -- >> laura: i agree. all right. i have a time -- i have a commercialism problem here. okay? a commercialism problem. >> candice, jesus would be socialist. >> brother west -- >> laura: we have to go. great conversation. we can do an hour together. cornell, i didn't mean to say harvard that way. thanks. democrats on the

nine points for bernie sanders. elizabeth warren, kamala harris, pete buttigieg, all of them also ahead of the president, whose support tops out in any of these matchups at 41%. for more i'm joined by robert costa, national political reporter for "the washington post." eugene robinson, associate editor and pulitzer prize winning columnist for "the washington post" and rick tyler, former national spokesman for the 2010 cruz campaign. all three are msnbc political analysts. robert, let me start with you. and let me, in fact, put this up on the screen from our own paper's reporting on this. you say "trump world is trying to wave a red flag in front of the president to warn him that his 2020 re-election battle is going to be a tougher fight than he's willing to acknowledge. that is why people close to the campaign said that unflattering internal poll numbers leaked about matchups with joe biden and other democratic contenders in key states." so take us inside the conversations the president is having with folks about 20

bernie, allow me to do it for you.our plans hurt poor people who now don't have a shot in hell of ever getting rich and impose a wage ceiling on the poorest of us ensures death for those who need it most. and that's the memo. ♪ kennedy: walmart, am don and other big corporations have been a frequent target of 2020 candidates. target too. will they ever realize their anger is completely misplaced? let's meet tonight's party panel to discuss it all. attorney and senior adviser alex wilkes and cohost of the fifth column podcast matt welch and host of the quiz show within fox nation. welcome back, everyone. so it used to be when a democrat would go to companies and try to force them to do something that that was considered radical. >> yes. kennedy: bernie sanders at one time, when he was taking his honeymoon in the soviet union and rubbing his tooth, that was considered radical. >> we all do that now. >> nothing wrong with that. kennedy: enough about the green room, too many. >> but he went out of his way to say this is no

former vice president john joe biden's record on civil rights while senators elizabeth warren and bernie sanders are competing for the attention of more progressive minded democrats so how will the sinai mix play out on the debate stage returning to the stream to help us answer that question and survey the landscape republican party strategist and the founder of the women's public leadership network brad jenkins is a democratic party strategist and host of the fired up at a miami and correspondent for al-jazeera english however you really get to see let's just see if you can pass this test we have a radio app panels 24 candidates so follow who's missing who's missing from back here. and the news that are going into the race. i had no idea there was so many the question is we have 25 people. as wanting to run for president what is the point. and why so many why would you even bother i think look in their defense when donald trump announced his candidacy for president everyone laughed at them and i think in many ways donald trump didn't think he was going to be president so i think that ju

>> everyone. >> bernie sanders. so four years ago -- well, three years ago, bernie sanders proposed medicare for all and said we need single payer. hillary clinton literally laughed on the stage. this is to alexandra's point. so i think we have to be careful -- not that you're going to imitate or mimic donald trump. you're right. you can't out-donald trump donald trump, but i think he has fundamentally altered some of our calculations of what conventional political thinking is as it relates to electability in particular. >> that was a great lesson, alexandra. he said he was going to give me a two-word answer. now i'm going to extend the time because of his 2,200 word answer. you get the last word before we go to break. >> to his point, right, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result i think that's the what joe biden represents in a lot of ways. the same for john delaney, although he's not polling at all. i think it's difficult to make that case. look, i

i mean, bernie pushed us. i think as a result of that bernie can stand up and say, look, before e came along, the democratic party didn't want to raise the wage to -- he started a revolution, and now you've got all these revolutionaries who are running. so i think bernie can talk about that. but the american people are not looking at what, you know, what you've done for me today, they want to know what are you going to do for me tomorrow. gerry: well, let's move to that. elizabeth juan has been campaigning -- warren has been campaigning in a detailed, polished way. have you been impressed with her campaign so far? >> absolutely. i'm impressed with her vision, her ideas, but more importantly, i'm shocked that she knows how to actually hit the ground running. she has more people on the ground, you know, she's been taking selfies, and she's capturing names, she's capturing addresses, and she's capturing faces. that's important. gerry: tougher regulation, higher taxes, that's the message the democratic party base

i believe bernie sanders stands out ahead of the pack. >> how is bernie sanders going to address this on the debate stage when those from the right and left of where he is at, discuss the issue of democratic socialism? >> this is the debate we want to have. when you think a bt our held care system and you see tens of millions of whoent have health insurance and you're saying why is this system failing us? we've been trying to ticker with it for ages. tweet it here and there. it's corporate greed. the incentive to screw people over. who will change that and come in and say single payor, we're removing them out. that's the debate we want to have. when we make that argument we feel like people will understand that economic rights is human rights. >> will that work in the general in. >> yeah. this is a debate that i think we want to have. look at the head to heads. the states you need to win in order for democrat to be in the white house. they know him. there's 100% id about this guy. this is the reason we want to put him up against donald trump. >> thank you for stopping by. i know you'r

paul: what do you think about bernie's appeal?as, and i oppose almost all of them. there is a certain authenticity about his when he says, look, this is what socialism is, this is what i want to do and this is about economic justice. is there -- that's part of his appeal. >> yeah, well, dan makes a really important point, if you looked closely at the elizabeth warren and the bernie sanders candidacies, they were very different when it came to this specific question. that being said, i think that there is an appeal to bernie's brand of this because it uses this one word often, which is free. and he's talking about free health care, free education, a living wage, free housing, free everything and for a certain type of american out there, that is an appealing message. in particular, a lot of the snow flakes that are at colleges. so bernie sanders, i think he's definitely -- this speech i think laid that out even more clearly. but you know, he's also getting knocked a little bit, i should point out by true fro dres progs on the left t

sanders is that bernie sanders is not a democrat right he really ran against the democratic party he ran against the democratic national committee and so it's very hard to unify the party when you have a candidate who is in many ways was trying to burn it down i mean he would say you try to reform it. but he was really railing against the system itself i think this feels very different there are still bernie sanders who still very much a viable candidate but every single one of these other candidates including elizabeth warren these are democrats right so i do think that even in the skirmishes that we've seen with center booker and senator biden there's a feeling of we're trying to your point. we're trying to come together we we realize that the number one priority for democratic primary voters is to not how donald trump be reelected that is the number one but i wanted to sit respectfully disagree with that i think bernie took the party more to the left and what you see today is a party that's sort of been remade in bernie's image they talk about these policies that are really more l