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one was represented by jesse jackson who was a more bernie sanders type, bernie sanders supported him, the kinds of versions of democratic socialism the sanders campaign represented. the other side was the mondale approach and the third would be someone like gary hart, a more, for the ideas of our tarry democrats, the new democrats and that is what dominated the direction of the party going forward and what my book looks at. >> host: let's talk about 1974. what happened in 1974 and who got elected that helped precede this. >> guest: not the george orwell book but the election. just give you giving you a hard time. 1974 was another critical year in political history and the big thing that dominated the news was watergate and this new group of congresspeople who came into congress, the watergate babies who represent a seachange in the party and one of the things that is often depicted because they were called watergate babies because they were against nixon and the republicans but wanted to change the credit party, to focus on big government and want change and this is represented by pe

you know, i'm on the budget committee with bernie and it's been a blast.we can do. here's where i think upper income americans like both of us, i am willing to take less from social security. i'm willing to have a different cola and reshape my benefits. i'm willing to pay more into part a and b. >> so i think you should lift of the cap completely. you will make social security solvent for 75 years, solve the legitimate issue you raised. and, yes, jeff bezos and elon musk will pay a lot more in taxes. so on what? on medicare. >> bret: on the common ground question. i didn't get it out of that answer. >> what you got is he sees it as a problem. i see it as a problem. all right? medicare i see medicare solvency as a problem. that is why i want us to stop spending twice as much per person on healthcare as any other country on earth. >> there is a bipartisan agreement currently on gun control legislation, senator sanders, you are not as of yet. is that a common ground issue around the edges that don't deal with everything you want that you all can get to. >> lo

and what about bernie sanders is uh, do you bernie running again are in the future and why is the age of yes. done. what is your opinion of the progressive wing of the party and do uc bernie sanders running again in the future? future? and would you like that? yes. i'll think it's very viable, you know, but i think that the message and i think they just have a bad label it with the all the negativity about socialism and communism. i mean, that's what i think hurts them. but overall, you know, i think it'd be better for the country if it could get some progressive our candidates to run and win, but i definitely thank you don. let's hear from lily geisler now, i think that one of the things that's happened is that because of the kind of new democrat approach and the kind of clinton eras power over the democratic party for so long and both in terms of policy and strategy is it really crowded out progressive voices, but one thing that's happened since i think especially since 2015 but even starting in 2011 with the occupy movement is many many people from from a wide different why differe

never be a president his age again like bernie, is in that demo after watching two years of biden is good about bided in bernie need step aside for someone younger like moses okay, they have made a mess on this country here's the thing we keep coming back to bite his job performance and help these historically unpopular but the truth is, okay, he did not run in 2020 and as you know i, covid-19 allowed him to stay home and avoid the physical rigors of daily campaigns in the media ran for him in 2020 they were more elvis sightings in summer of 2020, then there were fighting and invited sightings in the reality is some around outside of the covid-19 lockdown, there is no way they can trust him on the campaign trail everyday and i know they don't trust him to do an interview the last moments with anybody besides jimmy kimmel and when they do stick him in front of the camera, pretty sure that they have a shocking collar on him and casey veers off of the planter this weather is no way is running like no serious person thinks he is really in 2024 and i know biden is that he has morning but

it was a bunch of people who worked for bernie who believed in bernie's principles who wanted to scale it basically like you would scale a tech product and so they were looking for a bunch of people who they could. back and help with the sort of back end of campaigning and put into congress in the 2018 cycle. and then you know under i know you covered some of that race and you know, we've talked a little bit about like that. she's a woman and a woman of color and you know when you read this book, actually it is striking still how rare it is and you know. the unique challenges a candidate and then a lawmaker like aoc has like, you know in your reporting under when you when you're covering that race like what what challenges are. you know what unique difficult is you think? you know aoc had so of course. she was not a household name, right? she was a regular person. so just starting even with the support of a group like brand new congress. it was like really challenging like racing money was challenging she ate like, you know, we've seen her shoes displayed right like she literally walks

i would vote for bernie sanders. age does not mean anything to me, but my social security and my medicare and my grandchildren's education and the price of things, i would definitely vote for bernie. host: what do you think he brings as far as those concerns you have? what is it specifically that would make him a good president to you? caller: because he does care about people and he does want to make sure that our social security keeps going on, and medicare for all. so many of these problems, young people can't afford to go to school anymore. i've got four grandchildren in college right now and it is unbelievable. i would definitely vote for bernie, and i hope that donald trump gets put in jail. that is where he belongs. host: rita in wisconsin. for the next few minutes, you can still give your opinion as far as reelect ability of either current president biden or former president trump if they decided to run in 2024. there is a new poll out saying almost six in 10 americans say they want for president trump common

bernie sanders said, you need to answer for everyone denying election result. graham said, what about the people that want to defund the police? stacey abrams saying let's not defund the police. she's running for governor in georgia. she had a huge crime spike in georgia. she's on the board of a group expressed support for defunding the police. there's things they have to answer for. it's not just words, but also actions. will someone like a stacey abrams resign from that group in protest and make a point? will the attorney general arrest protesters outside of brett kavanaugh's home. >> and bernie debated lindsay. >> yes. >> who won? i'm just kidding. parents, listen up. the woke indoctrination happening inside your kid's classroom and a new must-read book. we'll talk about it next. how the left has weaponized the classroom as a means to control the political sphere. it's also the subject of a special streaming right now. pete, tell us more. >> thank you very much for this opportunity. hemingway said it happened gradually and then suddenly. covid-19 was that mo

brett baier hosted by britt there in massachusetts and there's bernie sanders and bernie sanders withlist meanings and passions for the working man, the populace argument is appealing to a large segment of the democratic base so i think he can be elected, i don't think so. he says he's a biden person and he's not out there challenge joe biden. the short answer to your question about who's in line, obviously people think biden is going to run but if he doesn't, they are looking at emily harris and people are judge, amy klobuchar some people in the house, again if you like aoc, bernie sanders wing, a lot of purpose and passion but i don't think it can when. kennedy: i think you are right, i think people want someone like bill clinton, a lot of republicans would hold their nose if there were an actual democrat centrist who wanted to work with coalitions instead of just parties and that person is not hillary clinton. in 2015, i don't know if you remember this line, we have the tape? such a good one, i want you to respond to this, let's watch hillary masterfully alienate half the country.

bernie, biden, schumer, pelosi.t the party of -- you know how they say this is not your grandfather's republican party anymore. you have mayra flores and people like that. this is your grandfather's democratic party i mean literally. can i ask you a simple question. if joe biden is tooled right now? how old was he a year and a half old minus 18 months. they act like he ages in dog years. he was old 18 months ago. they are using that as an excuse so we don't see how bad his policies are the mistake he makes also is doing nothing on the weekends that's youthful to the country tray that's in chaos and crisis. there i think he will be outflanked by some in the squad, by bernie, by warren and some of the others. but i expect him to run. i hope he runs. and, look, i think that the polls today that show so many other republicans, including donald trump would beat him in a head to head is problematic for him. the biggest problem for him is that he is not able to turn this around in time for the midterms. so they will blame

do you see bernie writing again in the future? yes? >> what is your you see bernie sanders running again inke the future and would you like that? check but i would like to see him try to get my progressive movement i think it is very viable. i think the message i think they have a badh label. with all of that negativity about socialism and communism, i think that is what hurtsw, them. overall it would be better foret the country if they could get some progressive candidates to run and when. thank you let's hear from lily. >> of the things that has happened is because of the democrat approach in clintonon era's power in terms of policy and strategy really crowded out progressive voices. one thing that's happened especially since 2015 even starting in 2011 the occupied movement as many, many people fromie different constituencies feeling very fed up with the democrats. thing that has to be other approaches and other answers. the progressive's been researching and with its been really, really effective. i do not necessarily its sanders wi

>> jimmy: i love bernie mac. [ cheers and applause >> bernie was fantastic, man >> jimmy: i loved bernie: you win the awards and then they fire you off the show >> larry, we're done with you now. yeah it was funny, because, you know, hollywood is just like this but i took the high road in the press -- this is true i'm not making this up i said, "you know, we had creative differences i was creative, and they were different. >> jimmy: there you go [ laughter ] i like that, i like that >> keep the high road, jimmy >> jimmy: keep the high road, buddy. >> keep the high road, man >> jimmy: i was doing a little research about you because you're coming on i found something i thought was fun. you had a recurring role on "the facts of life?" >> i did i actually did this is a true story oh, my god, this is -- >> jimmy: i have a photo of you and mrs. garrett this is real >> it's true >> jimmy: look at larry. look at larry wilmore right there. wow. [ audience awws >> wow [ applause ] >> jimmy: that's a deep cut. >> i know. >> jimmy: i love that show come on. >> i love that i got the puppy aww. that w

so ocasio-cortez had campus for the bernie sanders campaign in 2016. and her brother nominated her when congress was looking for community leaders. to run for congress and she was like the quote is whatever she said. this. haagain, not an auspicious moment. not a moment that resonated with future potential. it was just her brother called her up on the phone and said you want to run for congress and she said okay and he nominated her so there was this i mean in retrospect it wasn't really a machine. it was a bunch of people who work for bernie who believes in ernie's principles wanted to use it basically like you would scale tech product so they were looking for a bunch of people who they could back and help with the sort of backend is campaigning and put into congress in the 2018 . >> andrea, i know you covered some of that face and we talked a bit about life a woman of color. when you read this book it is striking how rare it is and you know, the unique challenges of a candidate and a lawmaker like aoc has. in your reporting when you were covering the

bernie was so bernie, because it does appeal to progressives to say the reason gas prices are going up going on in the world, but the reason they are going up is because those greedy oil companies are jacking up the prices and they are sticking it to everyday americans to give money to their billionaire and billionaire investors. >> jacqui: a lot of civility there, i don't know if we saw common ground. >> byron: none at all. >> john: theeason that mexico decided to keep illegal immigrants in mexico until their court date would come at the united states regarding asylum is that trump threatened to put tariffs on products out of mexico and that actually worked because of what he did with china. but back to the american rescue plan, we worked together about $6 trillion of bipartisan spending to help with covid. i rocked the world, a million people lost their lives, doctors and nurses went through hell, the american rescue plan, according to larry summers, not lindsey graham, was ill conceived and ill designed and he said would do more to spark inflation than any policy initiative in the l

bernie sanders said this, called them racist, said there is white supreme see in our policing and as a result, they have tried to cut policing and seen increase in crime. what democrats have learned and american people have seen, when you cut law enforcement, you have increase in crime. there is a direct correlation. throw in efforts to have drastic criminal justice reform to let more and more prisoners out on to the street, we will have more crime. throw in not securing the border and increased drug trafficking and human trafficking in america, that is a disaster. crisis after crisis can be traced back to bad policies by the house democrats and by the biden administration. >> todd: congressman james comer, thank you, appreciate it. chairman of the general, the panel will not make any criminal referrals when it comes to formal president trump. that claim quickly contradicted by liz cheney and schiff who said no decision had yet been made, as long as we are clear on that. prime time on thursday was crushed in rating by rerun of young sheldon, which aired the week before. they decided

bernie sanders's defense? does he think by going down the green new deal policies and spending more money will make things better? they have not taken a lesson from the failures they have had already and we are seeing it. >> carley: waking up to $4.98 for a gallon of gas and people across the country would consider that one a big failure. >> they are. i saw a lady yesterday getting gas, she went over and paid $20 and got four gallons, on her way to work, you could see, and she just wants to make it home to take care of her family and do things, she will not be able to enjoy things she could before because democrats created this mess of inflation and high gas prices. >> carley: import all the solar panels in the world and it will not affect that woman in a positive way that you met yesterday. appreciate it. house speaker nancy pelosi is arguing conservative supreme court justices are safe despite the plot to assassinate justice brett kavanaugh and the ongoing protest including one last night outside amy coney b

but lindsey graham and bernie sanders are poised for this.at are more far apart and their ability to articulate it, i've dealt with both of them before. this format is oxford style. it is opening statements and rebuttals and then there's a q&a session with me as the moderator. basically i'm keeping them in the guardrails. the whole process here is to try to get the old way that the senate operated with discussion and substance, backing up what you say, not just tweets against the wall or sound bites that get picked up. and i think it's going to be refreshing. it's an hour. it's a collaboration with the bipartisan policy center. the edward m. kennedy institute and the orrin hatch foundation. it's based on the premise that senator ted kennedy and orrin hatch were different in the way they looked at the world and politics but they got together and argued about things that they disagreed about. >> sean: dagen? >> dagen: allow me one to apologize for the poison. the chevy vega of american rock bands. and lindsey graham and bernie sanders hate each

but bernie is in a bad mood. >> heraldo, you said bernie would character part of the lack of support particularly? >>reporter: what people fail to realize sometimes because of this kind of stereotyping of the immigrants coming across the border and so forth is that hispanics in the united states, the largest minority group by far in this country, almost to 20% country, they are conservative group, they are family oriented, they like traditional incremental change. they don't like radical change. i think that that's what you're seeing, really, is kind of perception that president biden is not in control, particularly. a perception, despites the fact that the economy is doing pretty well objectively speaking. it's not from inflation. you do have 3.6% unemployment, a historic low. gas prices -- well, the 11 mon million unified jobs, i would argue that is an argument for increased immigration. i think there is a gloomiliness, there is a feeling of pessimism. the one thing that they have promised president biden -- and i found that is very interesting -- is that they won't challenge him i

. >>> we are watching the airline sector as they come under fire by senator bernie sanders of vermontnding aletter to secretary pete buttigieg, transportation secretary, complaining basically about the delays urging the secretary to take action in three areas. require airlines to promptly refund for flights delayed over an hour, impose fines for flights delayed more than two hours, impose fines for scheduling flights they're unable to properly staff the main complaint here, the u.s. government gave taxpayer money to the airline industry and they owe it to the american public to run flights well let's get phil lebeau to weigh in >> i am not surprised to see the letter from bernie sanders i also received it from his press office and they said look, this is what we believe should be done with the airline industry i'm not sure we're going to see any action by the dot to impose fines when it comes to delays and cancellations for a couple reasons. one, some of this is well documented in terms of number of pilots available to take flights. there's an allegation in the letter that cites an am

you go on up against a bernie sanders clone, and he even says it. this race will break down? we have a little over a minute. >> well, real fast, this gentleman endorsed bernie sanders and said they're the two most progressive candidates in the country. it's a stark contrast in what i believe in. he believes in sending trillions of more dollars on far left agenda items. i believe in no more reckless spending. he believes we should stifle energy and innovation in america. i believe it's an all-of-the-above strategy. he believes we should release 1/3 of the prison population in pennsylvania while we're in the middle of a crime wave in philadelphia. i believe we should keep our streets safe. he believes in open boredners sanctuary cities. i believe in a secure border. there's a big difference between the two of us. he's bankful of a lot of money. my competition endorsed me thankfully but he had no competition. he bank rolled a lot of money. if you're worried about him, you should be. go to doctor,oz.com and chip in. we can take him down if we can get th

elizabeth: what the congressman was saying, ford, here is what is going on, even bernie sanders, thispretty rich, the irony is rich, bernie sanders is warning democrats change course before you nosedive in the midterms. when bernie sanders and far left dragged biden into what "new york times" calls the problems from hell. we can talk about the parade of horribles and it is a long one but are voters catching on that all these academic hot house ideas and thought experiments don't work in the real world? >> look, the congressman's absolutely right. we need to take back our country. yes, bernie sanders is correct as well in the sense that the democrats are in the worst electoral position in the last 80 years. unfortunately, liz, look at two issues joe biden can do something about, the border which donald trump had lowest rate of illegal immigration in 45 years. and gas prices. if he would stop canceling pipeline projects, stop putting onerous regulations on drilling for oil we could drop gas prices by $1.30 and $2. here is the deal, many of props are intentional. joe biden is not concern

why did you agree to it. >> i like bernie. we will see what capitalism and socialism looks like in a debate forum. we are not going to have a food fight but we will have real serious disagreements. you know, you do hour news every night. we will have a chance to spend an hour with a democrat and republican talking about what are the real problems facing the nation. what's your idea? what's my idea? and can we up here in that building find some common ground. bernie is about as far as left as can you get and i think i'm a solid conservative. you may be surprised and i might be surprised there may be some common ground. we won't know until we talk. what is missing in politics is a chance to sit down and talk. >> bret: i look forward to it see new boston. the first debate between senators lindsey graham and bernie sanders streamed live exclusively on fox nation june 13th 12:00 p.m. eastern. available on demand afterwards on that platform. we will also air a special on fox news channel saturday june 18th 7:00 p.m. eastern time. yo

bernie and evann got to the motel just before 9:00 a. m. mike was already there. >> by the time we got there mike and his dad, john, were in a room. the detectives were there. and they had her purse on the bed and they had everything laid out. >> mike, the husband, seemed perplexed by the amount of cash on the bed. >> he's like, what in the hell is she doing with all this money? >> given a wad of money like that not taken, robbery was quickly ruled out. >> i requested them to bring another dumpster right now, because we thought maybe bonnie was in a dumpster where they found her purse. >> so you're thinking foul play at this point? >> i'm knowing foul play. >> a woman separated from her purse is a very bad sign. >> right. so we're sitting there crying, hoping they don't bring out a body out of the dumpster. >> but there was no body and no sign of bonnie's car, either. police handed bonnie's purse to mike and advised him it would be best if he just went home. >> the police told him go home, sit by the phone, wait for a car from her, ransom c

the you think you can get bernie sanders to smile? a couple smirks along the way but these guys know each other very well. they could not be more ideologically different, they are very articulate about where they stand and the hope is you will have substantive debate about big issues and may be common ground along the way. stuart: it is a terrific matchup. one more thing. we will be watching you on special report at 6 p.m. pm eastern on fox news. thanks for being with us. always appreciate it. back to the market. selling continues. the dow is down 730, nasdaq down 347, the s&p is down one hundred. this is because inflation is hot as reported this morning. 8.6% up for consumer prices compared to one year ago, biggest jump since 1981. kenny polcari has the good fortune to be watching the market. is this selling, yesterday dow down 600 this morning down 700. is this a capitulation selling that has been talked about? >> reporter: we can only hope it is finally the capitulation selling. i don't think we are there yet. i don't feel complete

bernie sanders, there was a clip of bernie sanders. see, the hate?ter ) >> stephen: as projection, a little bit of projection? we have to take a quick break. we'll be right back with more bob woodward and carl bernstein, everybody. stick around. ♪ ♪ ♪ ( applause ) ♪ walking on ♪ ♪ walking on the moon ♪ ♪ some ♪ ♪ may say ♪ ♪ i'm wishing my days away ♪ ♪ no way ♪ ♪ walking on the moon ♪ i have moderate to severe ulcerative colitis. so i'm taking zeposia, a once-daily pill. because i won't let uc stop me from being me. zeposia can help people with uc achieve and maintain remission. and it's the first and only s1p receptor modulator approved for uc. don't take zeposia if you've had a heart attack, chest pain, stroke or mini-stroke, heart failure in the last 6 months, irregular or abnormal heartbeat not corrected by a pacemaker, if you have untreated severe breathing problems during your sleep, or if you take medicines called maois. zeposia may cause serious side effects including infections that can be life-threatening and cause death, slow heart rate,

jason, bernie's right to be frustrated.obviously thinks you need to spend trillions more and make government bigger to have a decent course correction but he's not wrong. we can't do much but they suck, it's not a strategy, is it? >> it is the current strategy and losing formula. i've never seen anybody win an election -- they don't have a single policy piece other than saying the deficit is down but i never sat down at dinner with my wife and kids and somebody said you know the deficit is down today but gas was $100 to fill up the truck. it's not reality, they don't understand the american people and not a single thing they can say. the commerce secretary said there kind of out of ideas and when you have cabinet members think i don't know then you got trouble. kennedy: and jennifer is one of the cabinet members, she doesn't know what they are doing. jessica, you are one of the smartest people i know, incredible analyst so if the white house calls you and says bottom line, how would you save the party? >> straight shooting

and if he's so proud of he's actually keeping a promise from the campaign to outflank bernie sanders, elizabeth warren and you see he ought to just own it. sean, this is a guy who onpr earth day in april took air force one to washington state, not washington, d.c. d to s washingtonta state to celebrate earth day. folks just just to review quickly, air force one runs on fossil fuels, a lot of them and big carbon footprint. but look, this also l goest with inflation first it was transitory, then it was a high class treadmill problem. then it was goodd fororio the economy. then it was putin's fault. now it's corporations fault greedy corporations, oiler and gas. and guess what ? americans areyy very clear .me everybody's pulling. they think it's n joe biden's fault. remember in the green new deal went up for a vote in the senate. it got like zero votes when r they were all out on the campaign trail. whenever cory booker they're all like green udall again and they hadco a vote on it but they didn't vote for it.el they didn't vote positively for it. soy these are talking points from a part

the mid-term warning for democrats from progressive senator bernie sanders.ut what he has to say as gas puts a strain on american families. marc thiessen joins me next. >> inflation is the bain of our existence. bike noobie. and i've gone from zero to obsessed in like... three days. instructor: come on milwaukee! i see you! after riding twelve miles to nowhere, i'm taking a detour. and if you don't have the right home insurance coverage, you could be working out a way to pay for this yourself. get allstate and be better protected from mayhem for a whole lot less. your record label is taking off. but so is your sound engineer. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. visit indeed.com/hire >> martha: price of gas creeping ever closer to $5 a gallon. now averaging $4.97. it's going to be there in a couple days. i feel safe predicting that unfortunately. the average american makes $68,000 a year. it's expected americans to cost 18% more of the money that they have to

vermont senator bernie sanders has endorsed amy villela against incumbent dina titus.hole lot of challenges? >> hey, mike, good afternoon to you. that's right, they are because hourly workers in the state of nevada are really struggling. i met a man the other day naming salvador muÑoz, he's a father of two, he's got two jobs, working two jobs to make ends meet and the day that i met him he didn't know if he was going to have enough gas to get to work, watch. >> i wasn't able to make it to my second job today because of gas prices. i do still have my night shift coming up that i will be going to work, luckily a mile away, even without the car i can make that. >> even without the car you would make that? >> if i had to walk, i can do that. aishah: it is instain out here. two of nevada democrats are being primaried including dina titus of, redistricting handed her more red voters in a sort of stacey abrams like moment. titus at one point called her district the worst in the state. >> the left targets certain districts that are site districts so that they can win the prima

i think there' even more awareness and that was a few months ago. - i think that's because bernie was opening the doors of people's minds and peopleaid, yes, and i'll walk right through at door d see what on the other side. so without him, we wouldn't be having the conversation about inequality at all that we're having now. and elizabeth rren alsexpanded the space there was for that. julian castro also real good voice but it's not just a fringe elemt in society that has observed rightly that this is not working for us. any of us the richer or the poor. and there's an expanding group of people who are now wiing to go there and find out and think and experiment with the idea of changing. - you're also involved wit initiative called just capital, which by the way, is a sponsor of this very program, this very series of interviews. to what tent do yo see the positive chae in busess that we need? - i haven't seen all that much positive change yet but just capitals part of an effort to address this mindset shift that needs to happen. because a lot of what's happening is happening because the

it's funny he sees bernie sanders as the big threat considering bernie would be in his 90s if he were president and actually win two terms, which is not with the president of this country needs. i believe many democrats believe joe biden closer to his 90s would be in the second term that is a prospect most americans would be uncomfortable with. the lack of respect thing, when you are polling lower than any president in polling history, from truman to trump, respect has to go away. it's like the new york jets who haven't won a super bowl in something like 53 years saying, "hey, where's my respect?" i think the party wants a younger candidate. we are hearing more about gavin newsom possibly running if biden does not. imagine what that bumper sticker would look like, guys. "i could do for america what i did for california." the bench is then at this point. >> if i'm joe biden i'm sitting there thinking, i'm embracing all these policies you've pushed on as moderate jail. isn't it disingenuous that he's taking the blame for these failures? i know he's not done well and some of these crisis

i would vote for bernie sanders.ge does not mean anything to me, but my social security and my medicare and my grandchildren's education and the price of things, i would definitely vote for bernie. host: what do you think he brings as far as those concerns you have? what is it specifically that would make him a good president to you? caller: because he does care about people and he does want to make sure that our social security keeps going on, and medicare for all. so many of these problems, young people can't afford to go to school anymore. i've got four grandchildren in college right now and it is unbelievable. i would definitely vote for bernie, and i hope that donald trump gets put in jail. that is where he belongs. host: rita in wisconsin. for the next few minutes, you can still give your opinion as far as reelect ability of either current president biden or former president trump if they decided to run in 2024. there is a new poll out saying almost six in 10 americans say they want for president trump commonly

let me just close with bernie sanders . you know what a piece of card our art is or a car or anything else because you don't know what anybody's going to pay for it you can't do that . if you're talking about realized gains , then that's a fair discussion to have but i think tyou can't just say all we have to do is add revenue to the social security area i think it's also fair to ask yourself are we doing a good job or for low income social security recipients? i would argue no. one of the proposals that my colleague here strongly supports would expand benefits in social security for everybody regardless of their income or wealth status or anything else. that seemsunreasonable to me . i would direct more benefits to lower income people and frankly i would taper off the escalation of benefits at the higher level that would go a long way ato making social security programs work better . >> the bill that congressman larson has sponsored has over 200 cosponsors and would improve the special minimum benefit so it is at least 125

mikal gorbachev and ernie and bernie sanders among many others. when i see less discussed in the central neoliberal sections more so than in the treatment of the new deal order or even the current populace turn away from neoliberalism is the popular base for this politics. how is it that large numbers of republican and then democratic voters supported the neoliberal order? here i would like to hear more about the impact of such things as one might be the stagnation in wages that may have encouraged ordinary americans to prioritize their interests as consumers over producers in surviving economically, so that low prices even on imported goods that were produced offshore appealed to them. or how the shift to the ira and 401k regimes of retirement benefits drew more and more americans into becoming investors to the point where today 56% of americans own stock. complicating their calculus of what was in their economic interest? put another way in this returns to a point you made in your comments to what extent and what ways was neoliberalism an elite

if you left up to bernie sanders and elizabeth warned that blow the senate up to get their way.ll of these want and outcome the constitutional provision restricting their ability to win. those be damned you want to change america to get outcomes. conservatives are going to fight were going to uphold the constitution. i don't think joe manchin, sinema or murkowski or collins are going to blow up the senate because there disappointed with this court ruling. i don't believe that i know this is something he felt personally passionate about with regard to life you have fought for heartbeat laws and pain lots of the course of your career pretty and spent a lot of time in the senate started now president joe biden. he has evolved dramatically want to think about the things he said on friday about what a somber day friday it was. i want to play for everyone what he said in 2006 about this issue, watch. >> i do not view abortion as a choice and a right i think it is always a tragedy. and i think it should be rare and safe they think we should be focusing on how to limit the number of abo

you mentioned bernie sanders.w there is a great debate on monday between bernie sanders and lindsey graham. >> shannon: i heard about this. [laughs] >> being moderated -- >> shannon: bret baier. >> a lot of fun. >> shannon: that is three characters. to the point about the republicans not being part of this, there are two republicans but they are clearly not friends or allies or fans of president trump or presenting anything that amounts to any kind of defense of him. plus or minus mccarthy to say they are not going to cooperate at all? they can point to this and say it is political theater, but they have no way to steer any of this or mount any kind of defense. >> let's be clear, nancy pelosi said -- speaker pelosi said no to two of the people, and then he said we are not doing it. i think, you know, it would have been better to hear the minority side, and the pushback. but it is clearly a political move that they can say this is not an effective committee because it doesn't have a minority voice. >> i don't think

so, you know, i mean bernie, i love bernie, you know, i think he's he's the hope we had a hope here fore kind of political sanity. you know, it would be bernie sanders. so yeah. you know, i i've been booked in i've been scorn and i and i really rely on our music, you know, the spirituals the ones you know that they the the spiritual, the ones that say that. i have bee' scored. i've been talked about sure as you were born. and there are other songs like that that we should revise because we need them and that's why our ancestors created them. >> i think of people who find themselves wandering through this book will also see, like the kernels of faith. i'm not talking about religiosity right now but there's a kernel of faith in the work that you have done journaling and also creating. and i wanted to in the conversation with this question about faithfulness in revolution and revolutionary community and organization versus like this notion, this id of hope. how do you understand those? sort of radical faith if that exists versus what people might call radical hope. are those the same thing

bernie sanders says we must under the filibuster. what do you say to them? >> i don't think joe manchin is gonna turn the senate into the house. he may be disappointed in this decision. if you're pro life, you should embrace this decision. it allows states to determine life, not judges. i don't see susan collins or murkowski changing the rules of the senate. the rules of the senate would require 60 voteso enshrine roe v. wade. unless you blow up the senate, that's not gonna happen any time soon. as conservatives you would need 62 votes. you have a full assault on the constitution by the left. they want to do away with electoral college. they want to expand the number of judges on the supreme court to pack it. and now they're pushing bernie sanders to change the rules of the senate. the senate will hold. the 60 vote requirement for legislation will hold. if you left it up to bernie sanders and elizabeth warren, they would blow the senate up to get their way. the constitutional provisions restricting their ability to win, those be damned. we want to change ame