i'm standing outside the labour club here and a little earlier i spoke to bernie attridge, the deputy flintshire county council and he said he had grown up with carl sa rg ea nt said he had grown up with carl sargeant and said he had grown up with carl sargea nt and they said he had grown up with carl sargeant and they joined said he had grown up with carl sargeant and theyjoined the salvation army together and began their political career together here at the most local level at the town council. of course bernie attridge went to flintshire county council and carl sargeant went on to the national assembly in cardiff. he tells me he was absolutely devastated and that has been the story of the day. and what about carl sargeant, what story of the day. and what about carl sargea nt, what kind story of the day. and what about carl sargeant, what kind of politician was he? he was communities secretary in the welsh cabinet and communities secretary in the welsh cabinetand a communities secretary in the welsh cabinet and a man rooted in his community. to come up from the bottom, he had a bit