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act of self-defense. >> phil, hang in there want to show you a tape from 20 minutes ago when bernie de la rionda got on top of the foam dummy. tell us what was going on inside the courtroom. >> what exactly is bernie de la rionda doing? >> he is literally on top of ofoam dummy. he is talking -- do we hey sound? all right. anyway, so he puts the don't, gets on top, makings a couple comments, picks the dummy up and pit away. were the jury in tune to that or more of a circus atmosphere? >> seemed like they were definitely intuned to it. not as much as yesterday when i it was the first time it was brought out and the attorneys were really violent live shaking and it bashing it into the courtroom carpet. today wasn't nearly as jolting or intriguing as yesterday. but you bring in a big prop like that, supposed to represent the defendant sitting across the room, who is charged with second degree murder, facing 25 years to life if convicted, the jury would certainly paying very, very close attention. >> we'll take a very quick break and be back with our attorneys right here on set a couple minutes. stic
act of self-defense. >> phil, hang in there want to show you a tape from 20 minutes ago when bernie de la rionda got on top of the foam dummy. tell us what was going on inside the courtroom. >> what exactly is bernie de la rionda doing? >> he is literally on top of ofoam dummy. he is talking -- do we hey sound? all right. anyway, so he puts the don't, gets on top, makings a couple comments, picks the dummy up and pit away. were the jury in tune to that or more of a circus...
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that's bernie de la rionda.e did was he started off by saying, of course, that a teenager is dead, but dead because of a man who made assumptions and acted on those assumptions, and that man is george zimmerman. and he says that george zimmerman assumed that the teenager was up to no good, and then he launched into over a two-hour explanation, basically reiterating what has been the state's case from the beginning here. and one of the techniques he used is one that worked in the courtroom during the outline of that case, which was to reiterate, george zimmerman in his own words and how the story changed. listen to this. [ inaudible ] >> did it not occur to you? >> i, no, i said i don't have a problem and i started backing away from him. >> but that's why you were following him, right? [ inaudible ] >> i was scared -- >> scared to tell -- [ inaudible ] you were afraid to tell him that? >> yes, ma'am. >> i mean, i'm not trying to put you on the spot. >> again, now, when they're pressing him on that issue, oh, he's
that's bernie de la rionda.e did was he started off by saying, of course, that a teenager is dead, but dead because of a man who made assumptions and acted on those assumptions, and that man is george zimmerman. and he says that george zimmerman assumed that the teenager was up to no good, and then he launched into over a two-hour explanation, basically reiterating what has been the state's case from the beginning here. and one of the techniques he used is one that worked in the courtroom...
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they delivered that string of curse words at the beginning but today the veteran prosecutor, bernie de la rionda almost like delivering a sermon begins very methodically and he says a teen-ager is dead because a man acted on assumptions. very strong. listen. >> this defendant made the wrong assumption. he profiled him as a criminal. he assumed certain things. that trayvon martin was up to no good. and that was what led to his death. >> and that's exactly the point, that this was a teen-ager who had done nothing wrong, was walking through a community he had every right to be in and it went on from there but it was a strong beginning for the prosecution. >> i also thought it was very effective by bernie de la rionda was the way he weaved together all the statements george had given and interviews he'd given to the media, pointing out inconsistencies and suggests that he'd been almost rein reinventing parts of what happened according to the questions he'd been asked. >> this was a luxury provided by the defendant himself because he made so many statements. he'd made a number of them to police. a lo
they delivered that string of curse words at the beginning but today the veteran prosecutor, bernie de la rionda almost like delivering a sermon begins very methodically and he says a teen-ager is dead because a man acted on assumptions. very strong. listen. >> this defendant made the wrong assumption. he profiled him as a criminal. he assumed certain things. that trayvon martin was up to no good. and that was what led to his death. >> and that's exactly the point, that this was a...
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at one point mocking bernie de la rionda. marcia, how would you characterize mark o'mara's approach? >> i understand his approach and he's wisely trying to bleed as much of the drama, as much of the emotional drama out of the case as he possibly can because the emotional drama does not work for his side. it works for trayvon's side. and so he's going to adopt this very intellectual air, this very relaxed, calm, rational demeanor in order to appeal to a very calm sense and try to steer them away from the memory of the fact that a young boy was killed here. and, you know, i give him some credit for doing that. on the other hand, there were some things i thought he tid that really went over the top. for example, the whole bit with concrete, didn't impress me. and saying that it was disgusting to say that that was not a deadly weapon i thought was a over the top. you know, the concrete is there and trayvon wasn't carrying it and he didn't put a loaded piece of concrete in his pocket and chase down george zimmerman. i thought that
at one point mocking bernie de la rionda. marcia, how would you characterize mark o'mara's approach? >> i understand his approach and he's wisely trying to bleed as much of the drama, as much of the emotional drama out of the case as he possibly can because the emotional drama does not work for his side. it works for trayvon's side. and so he's going to adopt this very intellectual air, this very relaxed, calm, rational demeanor in order to appeal to a very calm sense and try to steer...
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you have a connection to this prosecutor, bernie de la rionda. tner used to work for bernie de la rionda. i would never ask you to grade or judge people who you may end up working against. >> happy to do it. >> what i'd like to know is the strategy of this closing. the narrative he's been giving and how it settles with the average guy like me. >> i think he's doing the best he can. i think the skill sets of these prosecutors has been spectacular. i think their strategy has stunk. >> you do? >> i think it's coming back to bite them. i'll tell you why. they should have never as we've seen this case unfold gone with second degree murder. they should have gone from the very beginning, maintained their credibility with manslaughter. >> why did they? >> they thought they could possibly get a second degree. then the jury would come back with a lesser. >> no, mark, no. that's normally the way it works. is that the way it works this time? or did it come from the special prosecutor? >> that's the trouble when you get politics involved in the judicial system
you have a connection to this prosecutor, bernie de la rionda. tner used to work for bernie de la rionda. i would never ask you to grade or judge people who you may end up working against. >> happy to do it. >> what i'd like to know is the strategy of this closing. the narrative he's been giving and how it settles with the average guy like me. >> i think he's doing the best he can. i think the skill sets of these prosecutors has been spectacular. i think their strategy has...
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i don't think we saw bernie de la rionda trying to be someone who he is not. that is never effective. prosecutors have to bring their own personalities into the courtroom. bernie is passionate when he cross-examines, he's passionate during his direct examination. i think we saw who he really is as a person. he really cares about this case. he clearly believes in his case. i think it's effective because this is a second degree murder case and he did things that prosecutors are trained to do, like pointing at the defendant because if the prosecutor can't point at the defendant and lay responsibility on the defendant, you sure can't expect the jury to. so you saw some tools of the trade that you always see, but i don't think that there was theater involved. i think he was being who he is and, again, i thought that it was very effective from the looks on the jury's faces. he gave them a lot to think about and, again, the narrative here for the prosecution has to be what was in george zimmerman's mind when he followed, targeted, profiled and ultimately shot trayvon
i don't think we saw bernie de la rionda trying to be someone who he is not. that is never effective. prosecutors have to bring their own personalities into the courtroom. bernie is passionate when he cross-examines, he's passionate during his direct examination. i think we saw who he really is as a person. he really cares about this case. he clearly believes in his case. i think it's effective because this is a second degree murder case and he did things that prosecutors are trained to do,...
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i think that bernie de la rionda was a better lawyer than that.f the inconsistencies, as opposed to pointing them out and spoon feeding the jury for that. >> reporter: he used power point slides, this, in zimmerman's own words to try to convince the jury that zimmerman went off trayvon martin simply because of the way he looked. >> when he profiled a 17-year-old boy, that had skittles. he automatically assumed that trayvon martin was a criminal. and that is why we're here. >> reporter: he ripped into zimmerman's credibility. >> do you believe that there is an innocent man sitting over there right now? >> reporter: and again, showed jurors the pictures of martin's dead body. >> this is one of the last photos that will ever be taken of trayvon martin. and that is true because of the actions of one individual, the man before you, the defendant, george zimmerman. >> do you think he did a disservice to trayvon martin? >> i think trayvon martin deserved more. i think the people of the state of florida and the victim, trayvon martin, should have had a cl
i think that bernie de la rionda was a better lawyer than that.f the inconsistencies, as opposed to pointing them out and spoon feeding the jury for that. >> reporter: he used power point slides, this, in zimmerman's own words to try to convince the jury that zimmerman went off trayvon martin simply because of the way he looked. >> when he profiled a 17-year-old boy, that had skittles. he automatically assumed that trayvon martin was a criminal. and that is why we're here. >>...
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that was the argument that prosecutor bernie de la rionda made again and again to the jury during his closing arguments today. >> why is he able to yell if the defendant claims the victim was -- how is he going to talk? or is he lying about that? look at the gun, look at the size of this gun, how did the victim see that in the darkness. you see what he is saying now? he is saying that arm pits -- how does he get the gun out? he profiled a 17-year-old boy that had skittles. that is the crime he committed that evening. >> did de la rionda convince the jury that george zimmerman is guilty of murdering trayvon martin. martin savige was in the courtroom today, and martin, what was the reaction from that moment we just watched? >> yeah, erin, i went back in there again, because we're down to the final arguments in the presentation of the case, what was it? a year and a half. and i went down there to see what the reaction was, and the at times very dramatic presentation by bernie de la rionda. and the reactions are the way they have been throughout the trial. very focused, attentive. i didn'
that was the argument that prosecutor bernie de la rionda made again and again to the jury during his closing arguments today. >> why is he able to yell if the defendant claims the victim was -- how is he going to talk? or is he lying about that? look at the gun, look at the size of this gun, how did the victim see that in the darkness. you see what he is saying now? he is saying that arm pits -- how does he get the gun out? he profiled a 17-year-old boy that had skittles. that is the...
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and bernie de la rionda really did come back.'m not sure if it was re, re, re, which direct it was but he came back and he was able to nail down a few critical, critical points when it came to this investigator. >> i've said for a long time that trials are not linear processes. you have a good day, you have a bad day, you have to wait until it's all over. let me give you an example how astute bernie de la rionda was. he goes to his investigator and he says did you ask those questions before dna? did you ask those questions before an m.e. report? all showing that he gave a questionable inquiry. nobody ever does on the first few days of an investigation. you never have your dna back. you never have your m.e. report back. but he made it sound like that based on that background that the investigator didn't get it all done and hence that's why he came to his conclusions. >> listen to some of this questioning live in court when it came to what this investigator, chris serino, thought about the young man that he was interviewing, whethe
and bernie de la rionda really did come back.'m not sure if it was re, re, re, which direct it was but he came back and he was able to nail down a few critical, critical points when it came to this investigator. >> i've said for a long time that trials are not linear processes. you have a good day, you have a bad day, you have to wait until it's all over. let me give you an example how astute bernie de la rionda was. he goes to his investigator and he says did you ask those questions...
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now, you just heard bernie de la rionda demonstrating on his hip.idn't play the reenactment. i want to play it for you. take a look at what i see, i see three times in the 30-second videotaped clip in the reenactment, you see george zimmerman demonstrating that his gun was holstered on his back hip, from the first time when he just passed to his back hip. the second time when he demonstrates trayvon martin reached across, as though reaching across the back. and a final time when he reaches back, demonstrating taking the gun. take a look. >> i had my firearm on the right side hip. he saw it, i feel like he saw it. he looked at it and says "you're going to die tonight." and he reached for it. i grabbed it. just grabbed my firearm and shot him. >> i saw this and that it wait a second, because there is george zimmerman reaching back. and there is mark o'mara reaching in the front while questioning george zimmerman's friend, mark osterman, that is where he pointed, on his right side while inquiring about a gun holster. and even though bernie de la rionda
now, you just heard bernie de la rionda demonstrating on his hip.idn't play the reenactment. i want to play it for you. take a look at what i see, i see three times in the 30-second videotaped clip in the reenactment, you see george zimmerman demonstrating that his gun was holstered on his back hip, from the first time when he just passed to his back hip. the second time when he demonstrates trayvon martin reached across, as though reaching across the back. and a final time when he reaches...
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and that is what i have advised them to do, as bernie de la rionda said to do today.oral arc is long with justice, so we're praying for justice and believe that george zimmerman will be convicted of murder. >> jasmine rand, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> we invited members of george zimmerman's defense team to join us, but understandably, they declined. they have a very big day to prepare for tomorrow. coming up, the possible verdicts, second degree murder, manslaughter or not guilty. i have low testosterone. there, i said it. see, i knew testosterone could affect sex drive, but not energy or even my mood. that's when i talked with my doctor. he gave me some blood tests... showed it was low t. that's it. it was a number. [ male announcer ] today, men with low t have androgel 1.62% testosterone gel. the #1 prescribed topical testosterone replacement therapy increases testosterone when used daily. women and children should avoid contact with application sites. discontinue androgel and call your doctor if you see unexpected signs of early puberty in a child,
and that is what i have advised them to do, as bernie de la rionda said to do today.oral arc is long with justice, so we're praying for justice and believe that george zimmerman will be convicted of murder. >> jasmine rand, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> we invited members of george zimmerman's defense team to join us, but understandably, they declined. they have a very big day to prepare for tomorrow. coming up, the possible verdicts, second degree murder,...
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bernie de la rionda was more forceful. john guy was more poetic, r many of a sermon, very passionate. then there's mark o'mara, who was very calm and thoughtful. lots of visual aids. let's take a look at what he did. >> you can't help but have a first impression. if i were to walk in today, let's say, and i just, as an example, walked in like this. just walked in the courtroom as a lawyer. you would have an impression. what in god's name is he doing with sunglasses on, and who does he think he is? that's how long trayvon martin had to run. about four minutes. the state told you that he had no decisions. they dared to tell you that trayvon martin had no decisions, that my client planned this. really? four minutes. four minutes of planning. and they want you to ignore it. i guess it could be part of the mastermind criminal behavior he learned in community college. i guess it could have been, but let me tell you, if you have a doubt as to whether or not that's true, you need to tell the state don't ever come back before us ag
bernie de la rionda was more forceful. john guy was more poetic, r many of a sermon, very passionate. then there's mark o'mara, who was very calm and thoughtful. lots of visual aids. let's take a look at what he did. >> you can't help but have a first impression. if i were to walk in today, let's say, and i just, as an example, walked in like this. just walked in the courtroom as a lawyer. you would have an impression. what in god's name is he doing with sunglasses on, and who does he...
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bernie d bernie de la rionda, sell -- he did like about not attending the funeral, but why? she didn't want to see the body and didn't come forward, because she lied about her age. she didn't want to face the parents of trayvon martin. did he do enough to persuade the jury this is a young woman whose evidence they could trust? >> i think one of the things he has going for him is this is a jury of six women, i believe four or three of whom had environment about her age or older, so they may look upon her a bit more sympathetically and as mothers say he does get up there and stick to her story. i think rachel was consistent. she establishes, number one that trayvon martin could have been afraid of the person following him, that he acknowledged that the person was following him and pursuing him, and at least there was some element of discussion between the two of them about him being afraid, and that there was a confrontation in her words initiated by george zimmerman. i think it was important to humanize her. remember, the jurors have not heard all of the social media, all of
bernie d bernie de la rionda, sell -- he did like about not attending the funeral, but why? she didn't want to see the body and didn't come forward, because she lied about her age. she didn't want to face the parents of trayvon martin. did he do enough to persuade the jury this is a young woman whose evidence they could trust? >> i think one of the things he has going for him is this is a jury of six women, i believe four or three of whom had environment about her age or older, so they...
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far more effective than bernie de la rionda yesterday. >> tom, what do you think were the key themes from both sides today? >> well, i think the key themes are responsibility versus reasonable doubt. puerto rico the prosecution's point of view, this entire event began when george zimmerman profiled trayvon martin, disobeyed the police and went after him, disobeyed the homeowner association rules and confronted a suspect and now says i have to defend myself from a situation i created. i thought mark o'mara's chart on reasonable was very effective. it's the same chart i used in the michael jackson trial and i borrowed it from johnnie cochran who used it in the o.j. simpson trial. you go up the scale, is it probably guilty? guilt is certain, guilt is likely. you show how all of these very strong burdens of doubt are lower than proof beyond a reasonable doubt. it's responsibility versus reasonable doubt as i see the case. >> we've heard over and over from the prosecution that trayvon martin was unarmed the night he was killed, he only had skittles and an iced tea but the defense countere
far more effective than bernie de la rionda yesterday. >> tom, what do you think were the key themes from both sides today? >> well, i think the key themes are responsibility versus reasonable doubt. puerto rico the prosecution's point of view, this entire event began when george zimmerman profiled trayvon martin, disobeyed the police and went after him, disobeyed the homeowner association rules and confronted a suspect and now says i have to defend myself from a situation i...
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bernie de la rionda at the house, so be it. and then they say that mora said something about pursuit. sudyka never said anything about pursuit and i was here for the temperature. she said something down below. he said what she thought she heard the child she heard screaming. ba bahadoor said she saw someone running. >> we're going to take a very quick break and we'll come back with more of this trial live. stay with us. what makes the sleep what makes the sleep number store different? you walk into a conventional mattress store, it's really not about you. they say, "well, if you wanted a firm bed you can lie on one of those. we provide the exact individualization that your body needs. oh, yeah! once you experience it, there's no going back. while we make room for our latest innovations, save $500 to $800 on the closeout of our memory foam and iseries bed sets. plus, special financing-for one week only! only at the sleep number store. sleep number. comfort individualized. >>> we're back with cnn's live coverage of the george zim
bernie de la rionda at the house, so be it. and then they say that mora said something about pursuit. sudyka never said anything about pursuit and i was here for the temperature. she said something down below. he said what she thought she heard the child she heard screaming. ba bahadoor said she saw someone running. >> we're going to take a very quick break and we'll come back with more of this trial live. stay with us. what makes the sleep what makes the sleep number store different? you...
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bernie de la rionda of the state delivering an emotionally charged final appeal to the jury to find zimmerman guilty of second-degree murder. it tied together virtually all of the elements and arguments that we have seen them present in this case including zimmerman's infamous profanity-laced call to the police which occurred when he spotted and tracked martin, the testimony of martin's friend rachel jeantel saying martin told her that zimmerman was following him, and numerous questions about zimmerman's account of the events that night. their conclusion that zimmerman profiled martin as a criminal and killed him with ill will and hatred. earlier in the day a series of contentious exchanges over jury instructions took center stage, specifically rulings on whether the jury would be allowed to consider lesser charges. zimmerman is claiming self-defense. the jury also can consider the lesser charge of manslaughter. don west objected numerous times to these rulings, so many at one point that the judge basically threatened him with contempt. but tomorrow it will be west and the defense's team who
bernie de la rionda of the state delivering an emotionally charged final appeal to the jury to find zimmerman guilty of second-degree murder. it tied together virtually all of the elements and arguments that we have seen them present in this case including zimmerman's infamous profanity-laced call to the police which occurred when he spotted and tracked martin, the testimony of martin's friend rachel jeantel saying martin told her that zimmerman was following him, and numerous questions about...
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meanwhile, on cross-examination, bernie de la rionda, in some of his most animated cross examining could not testify as to who started the fight, couldn't testify as to who threw the first punch and also couldn't testify whether trayvon martin at any point was actually grabbed the gun as have been said. they also wonder how the medical examiner has handled the clothes. as you indicated, dr. di maio, the star witness today as you indicated, also as you indicated mark o'mara saying, giving every impression, the last witness that we saw, the neighbor, one of george zimmerman's neighbors, eloise dilligard would be the last witness for the defense. right now inside the courtroom they're wrapping up a hearing, a hearing that started this morning. this is a hearing about whether this specific animation is going to do be admitted. the defense spent two hours this morning arguing for this animation to be admitted into evidence. and this is an animation that essentially depicts how the altercation started, how the fight went down, and it is based largely on witness accounts, defense witness accoun
meanwhile, on cross-examination, bernie de la rionda, in some of his most animated cross examining could not testify as to who started the fight, couldn't testify as to who threw the first punch and also couldn't testify whether trayvon martin at any point was actually grabbed the gun as have been said. they also wonder how the medical examiner has handled the clothes. as you indicated, dr. di maio, the star witness today as you indicated, also as you indicated mark o'mara saying, giving every...
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and that is what i have advised them to do, as bernie de la rionda said to do today. arc is long with justice, so we're praying for justice and believe that george zimmerman will be convicted of murder. >> jasmine rand, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> we invited members of george zimmerman's defense team to join us, but understandably, they delan declined. they have a very big day to prepare for tomorrow. coming up, the possible verdicts, second degree murder, manslaughter or not guilty. we've been bringing people together. today, we'd like people to come together on something that concerns all of us. obesity. and as the nation's leading beverage company, we can play an important role. that includes continually providing more options. giving people easy ways to help make informed choices. and offering portion controlled versions of our most popular drinks. it also means working with our industry to voluntarily change what's offered in schools. but beating obesity will take continued action by all of us, based on one simple common sense fact... all calories
and that is what i have advised them to do, as bernie de la rionda said to do today. arc is long with justice, so we're praying for justice and believe that george zimmerman will be convicted of murder. >> jasmine rand, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> we invited members of george zimmerman's defense team to join us, but understandably, they delan declined. they have a very big day to prepare for tomorrow. coming up, the possible verdicts, second degree murder,...
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bernie de la rionda and john guy in the closing summations brought it back to the heart of the matter what the whole case is about, why everybody is watching this case and that is because trayvon was shot in the heart and you got inside the heart of these two individuals that night, one a child who was running from a stranger he didn't know and one a pursuer who said these a-holes aren't going to get away, their words speak to their heart, and you asked the court what would the verdict be had trayvon martin pursued and shot george zimmerman? >> benjamin crump, thank you for your time. we should note two things here. first of all, it is exceptionally hot. they probably saw us wiping our brows. we should also note that msnbc has invited the defense team to join us but they told us they're not doing any interviews until after the verdict is read. i want to bring in my friend and colleague lisa blum, legal analyst. lisa, always good to see you. first of all, let's play the game we have been playing for about a day now. the longer this jury deliberates, what does that tell you? >> well, i
bernie de la rionda and john guy in the closing summations brought it back to the heart of the matter what the whole case is about, why everybody is watching this case and that is because trayvon was shot in the heart and you got inside the heart of these two individuals that night, one a child who was running from a stranger he didn't know and one a pursuer who said these a-holes aren't going to get away, their words speak to their heart, and you asked the court what would the verdict be had...
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what evidence did bernie de la rionda ask the jury to consider in his final shot?his overall statements were that trayvon martin was an innocent kid, that he was walking home and that he was doing nothing wrong. so the evidence he used were really the things that trayvon martin was carrying. he talked about the skittles, the iced tea that the country's been talking about for over a year and hi said "these are not weapons." that this was just someone walking homele from the store. he also used trayvon martin's body saying that trayvon didn't have blood on his hands. he pointed to d.n.a. evidence that said there was no prints and no d.n.a. found on the gun. so that was find of how he used the evidence but his mainingment was that this was a kid that was walking home and it could have been avoided if george zimmerman hadn't stopped and gotten out of his car. >> suarez: with a charge of second degree murder, the state carries a heavy burden. it has to demonstrate ill will, malicious intent. what could prosecutor de la rionda point to before the jury today that showed t
what evidence did bernie de la rionda ask the jury to consider in his final shot?his overall statements were that trayvon martin was an innocent kid, that he was walking home and that he was doing nothing wrong. so the evidence he used were really the things that trayvon martin was carrying. he talked about the skittles, the iced tea that the country's been talking about for over a year and hi said "these are not weapons." that this was just someone walking homele from the store. he...
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bernie de la rionda for the prosecution, mark o'mara giving the defense summation. awaiting the six women in this jury, five of whom are white, one of whom has been described as hispanic or black or perhaps black hispanic. sanford majority white. the community has been tense and on edge for over a year since trayvon martin, who was visiting from miami, was shot by george zimmerman last year. we do have paul henderson, former prosecutor, still with us. paul, do we have you? >> i'm here, i'm live, i'm watching. >> paul, do we have any idea what's going on inside of that courtroom in seminole county? >> they've come back so quickly. they've only been deliberating for a day since they've had the evidence they're reviewing. at this point it's hard to tell what the decision is or if they may have a new question for the judge. it's interesting it's only been one day. keep in mind it's a weekend and i know there's a lot of pressure on the jury to make the decision and move this case along. >> we see george zimmerman entering the courtroom and going to sit with his defense t
bernie de la rionda for the prosecution, mark o'mara giving the defense summation. awaiting the six women in this jury, five of whom are white, one of whom has been described as hispanic or black or perhaps black hispanic. sanford majority white. the community has been tense and on edge for over a year since trayvon martin, who was visiting from miami, was shot by george zimmerman last year. we do have paul henderson, former prosecutor, still with us. paul, do we have you? >> i'm here,...
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not the way john guy said it, not the way bernie de la rionda says the expletives, but they want youo take from the phone calls the beginning of ill will, spite, and hatred. he did not address it in his argument to you and in an offhand way he said if you get rid of second degree, don't get rid of manslaughter. but where is the state's case, looking at all of the evidence, not just that which they want to focus you on, but all of the evidence, how they get to ill will, spite, and hatred? that he made up stories? well, you have an opportunity to review the evidence, you sat here like all of us did and decide whether that stories are made up. and whether serino stated, they were insignificant changes, as a matter of fact, they were changes or developments that they would expect the more time they question somebody. that's why john good's half of a page statement went to a four-page statement, went to a 50-page deposition. you know it as well as i do and you know what, as well as the state does. that's why they can't come here and say to you, he said, he shot him in self-defense, he sai
not the way john guy said it, not the way bernie de la rionda says the expletives, but they want youo take from the phone calls the beginning of ill will, spite, and hatred. he did not address it in his argument to you and in an offhand way he said if you get rid of second degree, don't get rid of manslaughter. but where is the state's case, looking at all of the evidence, not just that which they want to focus you on, but all of the evidence, how they get to ill will, spite, and hatred? that...
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i think guy walked away between bernie de la rionda, john guy and mark o'mara, the person whose words remember is john guy. >> less than ten minutes ago we got a note from the court saying they'd been called into recess for an hour while jurors eat dinner. the deputy informed the court we're not going to hear anything back, the lawyers who had the chance, they were concerned about leaving and them come being back with a question that would have to be negotiated, let's call it that. but anyway, now until at least 8:18, they are on essentially a dinner break. i interrupted you. >> no problem. i'm waiting to hear what their next question is going to be. i'm anticipating we're going to hear that probably shortly after dinner, the jurors will confer, write it out, it will go back to the court. that will give us real insight into where they are on the manslaughter charge and what the issue might be. >> and may give them time to take a deep breath, sit back, refuel themselves and very literally as well as sort of physically, emotionally in every possible way and they'll come back with a ques
i think guy walked away between bernie de la rionda, john guy and mark o'mara, the person whose words remember is john guy. >> less than ten minutes ago we got a note from the court saying they'd been called into recess for an hour while jurors eat dinner. the deputy informed the court we're not going to hear anything back, the lawyers who had the chance, they were concerned about leaving and them come being back with a question that would have to be negotiated, let's call it that. but...
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. >> assistant state attorney bernie de la rionda then walked the jury through what the prosecution has called zimmerman's web of lies. how did he not know the streets of his own neighborhood? did he exaggerate his injuries? if trayvon martin really grabbed mr. zimmerman's gun, why was none of martin's dna on it? all together, it was an effort by the prosecution to deliver on what it has called mr. zimmerman's web of lies. an effort to undermine his truthfulness in the eyes of the jury. the defense will deliver its closing arguments tomorrow. then george zimmerman's fate will be in the hands of the jury. back with me now is my all-star legal panel, msnbc legal analyst lisa bloom, former prosecutor faith jenkins, defense attorney ken padowitz, defense attorney john burris, and former prosecutor marcia clark. she is also author of "killer ambition." thank you all for being here. >> thanks for having us. >> thank you, thank you. >> marcia, let me start with you. why was the prosecution so focused on what they called zimmerman's web of lies in these closing arguments? >> because this is a k
. >> assistant state attorney bernie de la rionda then walked the jury through what the prosecution has called zimmerman's web of lies. how did he not know the streets of his own neighborhood? did he exaggerate his injuries? if trayvon martin really grabbed mr. zimmerman's gun, why was none of martin's dna on it? all together, it was an effort by the prosecution to deliver on what it has called mr. zimmerman's web of lies. an effort to undermine his truthfulness in the eyes of the jury....
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. >> prosecutors bernie de la rionda asked about zimmerman's use of profanity in his call to police reporting a suspicious person in his neighborhood. >> in your opinion, calling somebody in reference with them, pardon my language, [ bleep ] punks. >> that is ill will and spite. >> it is? >> yes. >> ill will, evil intent are all factors the state must prove in its case. the prosecutors are working to support the theory that zimmerman profiled martin. >> you said following him is not legally improper, correct? >> it's not illegal. >> reporter: the judge may decide if zimmerman's college records as a criminal justice major can be admitted. ron mott, nbc news, sanford, florida. >>> there's growing outrage in southern california after a fatal police shooting involving a dog. officers say they were in fear for their lives while animal rights activists call it an unsubstantiated use of force. video of that has gone viral. we have to warn you it can be disturbing. it all happens in hauthorne in los angeles. police were arresting the dog's owner for refuse to go turn down his car stereo. that's when
. >> prosecutors bernie de la rionda asked about zimmerman's use of profanity in his call to police reporting a suspicious person in his neighborhood. >> in your opinion, calling somebody in reference with them, pardon my language, [ bleep ] punks. >> that is ill will and spite. >> it is? >> yes. >> ill will, evil intent are all factors the state must prove in its case. the prosecutors are working to support the theory that zimmerman profiled martin. >>...
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. >> bernie de la rionda. what do you think of him?areer prosecutor who i've never been up against before, and he handles his case load different than i ever did as a prosecutor, and i have concerns about the discovery perspective. i think that my view of things like other information we were supposed to get from prosecutors is at the very least a much different definition than he has. >> is he a snake, a liar? >> i think that he has -- i think he's probably more used to running against public defenders in cases that he gets to cherry pick and that he has overwhelming evidence, and that some of the nuances of how he handles discovery don't come to light. i don't think that don and i have presented ourselves as a couple of young public defenders. >> judge debra nelson. there are people who watch, and these are just people watching on television -- would say that she hates you. or hates the defense. >> she doesn't, and she doesn't hate me or the defense. >> so what goes on in the sidebars? of course, we don't hear it, we only see. it see
. >> bernie de la rionda. what do you think of him?areer prosecutor who i've never been up against before, and he handles his case load different than i ever did as a prosecutor, and i have concerns about the discovery perspective. i think that my view of things like other information we were supposed to get from prosecutors is at the very least a much different definition than he has. >> is he a snake, a liar? >> i think that he has -- i think he's probably more used to...
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at least one juror turning away as the prosecutor bernie de la rionda showed an autopsy photo. >> thise last photos that will ever be taken of trayvon martin. and that is true because of the actions of one individual, the man before you, the defendant, george zimmerman. >> reporter: for more than two hours the prosecution tried to convince the jury, trayvon martin didn't deserve to die. calling zimmerman a "wannabe cop" who targeted a teenager who was simply walking unarmed in his neighborhood. >> he automatically assumed that trayvon martin was a criminal. >> reporter: the defense will present closing arguments their final effort to convince the jury zimmerman killed the 17-year-old in self-defense. zimmerman pleaded not guilty to second-degree murder. maintaining that martin attacked him, leaving him bleeding and with no choice but to shoot. his only expression or gesture, a silent denial of the accusations against him. >> the man before you, the defendant, george zimmerman, the man who is guilty of second degree murder. >> reporter: the defense will present closing arguments in the
at least one juror turning away as the prosecutor bernie de la rionda showed an autopsy photo. >> thise last photos that will ever be taken of trayvon martin. and that is true because of the actions of one individual, the man before you, the defendant, george zimmerman. >> reporter: for more than two hours the prosecution tried to convince the jury, trayvon martin didn't deserve to die. calling zimmerman a "wannabe cop" who targeted a teenager who was simply walking...
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. >> reporter: prosecutor bernie de la rionda had george zimmerman credibility in the cross hairs, suggesting he lied that night. >> why is he able to yell if the defendant claims the victim was -- how is he going to talk? or is he lying about that? >> reporter: de la rionda using power points. this foam mannequin and zimmerman's own words to try to convince the jury that zimmerman murdered trayvon martin for the way he looked. >> he automatically assumed that trayvon martin was a criminal. >> reporter: and again today jurors shown pictures of martin's body. >> this is one of the last photos that will ever be taken of trayvon martin. and that is true because of the actions of one individual, the man before you, the defendant, george zimmerman. >> reporter: one juror turned away. another seemed to nod in agreement as de la rionda ripped into zimmerman's credibility. >> do you believe that there is an innocent man sitting over there right now? >> throughout zimmerman stared blankly, his lawyer's chair swivelled towards the prosecutor. his pointed straight ahead. barely moving until this moment.
. >> reporter: prosecutor bernie de la rionda had george zimmerman credibility in the cross hairs, suggesting he lied that night. >> why is he able to yell if the defendant claims the victim was -- how is he going to talk? or is he lying about that? >> reporter: de la rionda using power points. this foam mannequin and zimmerman's own words to try to convince the jury that zimmerman murdered trayvon martin for the way he looked. >> he automatically assumed that trayvon...
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. >> reporter: prosecutor bernie de la rionda insisted zimmerman had profiled trayvon martin. >> who was following who, isn't that what this case boils down to that was our theory. we respect the jury's verdict but what it boiled down to was a kid minding his own business being followed by a stranger. >> reporter: 16 hours after deliberations began, jurors rejected the state's murder and manslaughter charges. martin's parents in court to hear every day of testimony were absent for the verdict. they declined to be interviewed afterwards. tracy martin, the teenager's father talked to us on the eve of the trial. he said a not guilty verdict would be hard to accept. >> still going to continue to let trayvon's voice be heard through us. going to try to make sure that other families don't have to go down this same road that we have to go to. >> reporter: a half hour after the verdict, he reacted on twitter. even though i am broken hearded, my faith is unshattered. i will always love my baby tray. before the shooting, zimmerman was studying for a career in law enforcement. that dream is ove
. >> reporter: prosecutor bernie de la rionda insisted zimmerman had profiled trayvon martin. >> who was following who, isn't that what this case boils down to that was our theory. we respect the jury's verdict but what it boiled down to was a kid minding his own business being followed by a stranger. >> reporter: 16 hours after deliberations began, jurors rejected the state's murder and manslaughter charges. martin's parents in court to hear every day of testimony were absent...
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. >> reporter: prosecutor bernie de la rionda asked about zimmerman's use of profanity in his call toolice. reporting a suspicious person in his neighborhood. >> in your opinion, calling somebody -- reference them as [ bleep ] punks -- >> that is ill will and spite. >> it is? >> yes. >> reporter: ill will, spite, hatred or evil intent are all factors the state must prove in a second degree murder case. the prosecutor will also work to support the state's theory that zimmerm zimmerman profiled martin. >> you said following him is not legally improper, correct? >> it's not illegal. >> reporter: tomorrow the judge may decide if zimmerman's college records as a criminal justice major can be admitted. ron mott, nbc news, sanford, florida. >>> still ahead for us tonight. a warning about an epidemic that's killing more middle aged women than ever before. tonight the problem with prescription painkillers. >>> big news today about a spike in the number of middle aged women who are becoming addicted to prescription pain medicines. and a warning from the cdc about the thousands who are dying fro
. >> reporter: prosecutor bernie de la rionda asked about zimmerman's use of profanity in his call toolice. reporting a suspicious person in his neighborhood. >> in your opinion, calling somebody -- reference them as [ bleep ] punks -- >> that is ill will and spite. >> it is? >> yes. >> reporter: ill will, spite, hatred or evil intent are all factors the state must prove in a second degree murder case. the prosecutor will also work to support the state's...
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. >> reporter: in his closing argument, prosecutor bernie de la rionda told jurors that zimmerman profiled, tracked and killed trayvon martin. >> he was wearing a hoodie, last i heards that a not against the law. but, in this man's eyes, he was up to no good. >> to quote the defendant, and pardon mylan gauge, he was one of those [bleep] that get away. pardon mylan gauge. he was one of those [bleep] punks. >> reporter: de la rionda scoffed at zimmerman's claim that he felt threatened by the unarmed teenager. >> why does the defendant get out 69 car if he thinks that trayvon martin is a threat to him, why? why? why, because he's got a gun. he's got the equalizer. he's going to take care of him. what do we have here? really, what does it boil down to. you heard a little bit and we put evidence of the fact the defendant at one point wanted to be a police officer. but again, it doesn't say that the law allows a person to take matters into their own hands. >> reporter: zimmerman's wife and parents were present in the gallery for the first time. sabrina fulton, martin's mother looked away when cr
. >> reporter: in his closing argument, prosecutor bernie de la rionda told jurors that zimmerman profiled, tracked and killed trayvon martin. >> he was wearing a hoodie, last i heards that a not against the law. but, in this man's eyes, he was up to no good. >> to quote the defendant, and pardon mylan gauge, he was one of those [bleep] that get away. pardon mylan gauge. he was one of those [bleep] punks. >> reporter: de la rionda scoffed at zimmerman's claim that he...
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>> you know, i think that when you got to the final close, we saw bernie de la rionda the lead prosecutorirst day, and he basically just has one speed, very loud, very intense for about two hours. the problem with that, john, it's kind of like living next to a train station. when you first move in, you noic notice the rumbling noise, but after a while you tune it out. so, i think we need to focus, you know, very clearly on what mark o'mara and john guy did that second day. and they were both incredibly effective. i think mark o'mara probably connected better with the jurors who are going to take a very intellectual stance because he was very clear with the law. this is what the law is. this is how you analyze it, this is how you go back and deliberate, guys. go to self-defense first. john guy got back up, was very powerful but in a very different way. he appealed to the emotional jurors, the ones who are sitting there who cannot divorce themselves from the fact that they're mothers and that there's a dead -- and we heard some of those jurors were crying. they were emotionally moved. but i
>> you know, i think that when you got to the final close, we saw bernie de la rionda the lead prosecutorirst day, and he basically just has one speed, very loud, very intense for about two hours. the problem with that, john, it's kind of like living next to a train station. when you first move in, you noic notice the rumbling noise, but after a while you tune it out. so, i think we need to focus, you know, very clearly on what mark o'mara and john guy did that second day. and they were...
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not the exaggerated profane imitation yelling and screaming of john guy the prosecutor and bernie de la rionda when they mimicked it inside the courtro courtroom. no, george zimmerman, yes, he cursed, about it was sort of under his breath. o'mara said seriously in that's not guilt. that's not and plus toward martin. take -- that's not animus toward martin. >> listen to the call. anger, frustration, ill will, spite. get out here and get these guy, i hate these young black males. listen to the call. do not allow them to give their words to your ears rather than george's. listen to what he says. listen to the cadence of his voice and listen to what he says. read those reports. look at those people who lived through not many of them were home like business burgalong, but look at what they came home to. gregg: he followed it up with just because george zimmerman had telephoned police a handful of times before that, alerting them to suspicious behavior, possible crimes, does that constitute, he said seething anger? and the answer of course rhetorically was no. martha: we'll have to see what the jury
not the exaggerated profane imitation yelling and screaming of john guy the prosecutor and bernie de la rionda when they mimicked it inside the courtro courtroom. no, george zimmerman, yes, he cursed, about it was sort of under his breath. o'mara said seriously in that's not guilt. that's not and plus toward martin. take -- that's not animus toward martin. >> listen to the call. anger, frustration, ill will, spite. get out here and get these guy, i hate these young black males. listen to...
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on cross-examination this afternoon, bernie de la rionda, probed whether perhaps the detective was misreading the context of what tracy martin was saying, a grieving father listening to screams. maybe he was saying no in disbelief. we don't know exactly how the jury saw it, but it was still a pretty powerful moment for the defense. >> you know, the prosecutors played more of zimmerman's own phone call's voice. >> yeah. the state believes that tape is perhaps even more pertinent to the second degree murder charge than the 9-1-1 tape with the screams in the background. remember, back on february 26th, 2012, zimmerman sparts trayvon martin walking out there the gated community, thinks he looks suspicious, up no go and is when zimmerman called the nonemergency police line. here's an excerpt. >> tell me if you recognize this voice. >> [bleep] >> there's an objection. >> the prosecutors are trying to show the jury that zimmerman, the neighborhood watch activist, had a pentup frustration based on previous ebb counters with quote-unquote suspicious people walking in the neighborhood, and that is the
on cross-examination this afternoon, bernie de la rionda, probed whether perhaps the detective was misreading the context of what tracy martin was saying, a grieving father listening to screams. maybe he was saying no in disbelief. we don't know exactly how the jury saw it, but it was still a pretty powerful moment for the defense. >> you know, the prosecutors played more of zimmerman's own phone call's voice. >> yeah. the state believes that tape is perhaps even more pertinent to...
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a lot of criticism coming from outsiders about bernie de la rionda and the rest of the prosecution team for the state, waiting all night long to raise that objection. this is from yesterday afternoon in cross-examination when -- the lead detective on the trayvon martin shooting case from 2012, the commentary of serino, basically o'meara got him to say that he thought what zimmerman was telling him in all of these, say, dozen repeated interviews over multiple days was truthful. he was telling the truth or he was a pathological liar was the quote from the stand from chris serino, the detective, and o'mara followed with, will, dud you think mr. zimmerman was being truthful? and he said i thought he was and that sat with the jury all night long and only this morning when the prosecutor came in and said this was an opinion as to the defendant's truthfulness and that should not be allowed. the judge agreed. so the jury was told to forget you heard that. how well that can actually be accomplished, i can't tell you for certain. there was also some interesting this afternoon, sean hannity interv
a lot of criticism coming from outsiders about bernie de la rionda and the rest of the prosecution team for the state, waiting all night long to raise that objection. this is from yesterday afternoon in cross-examination when -- the lead detective on the trayvon martin shooting case from 2012, the commentary of serino, basically o'meara got him to say that he thought what zimmerman was telling him in all of these, say, dozen repeated interviews over multiple days was truthful. he was telling...
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on the heels of bernie de la rionda trying to cross-examine someone on their twitter account and didn'te difference between follower and following. i thought it was appalling today and broke some of the tension, frankly. >> bernie, does it hurt at all? does the jury look at that and say, oh, these guys don't know what they are doing. if they don't know what they are doing with the tech issues, maybe they don't know what they are doing with the case? first of all, in my experience, there is a good chance that my secretary, who has my i.t. skills, set this up phone call. when you are in a courtroom, and diana knows this, and ted knows it, if you are going to try something technological. plug it in, turn it on and i maxed out. better do it before the jury comes in. this happened every single time and it's humiliating. but it's the worst thing for the prosecution? oh, my god. look at the things that happened. this is about the least harmful thing. >> ted, i'm guessing this never happened to you. you know exactly what are you doing in the courtroom, tested the technology, everything buttoned
on the heels of bernie de la rionda trying to cross-examine someone on their twitter account and didn'te difference between follower and following. i thought it was appalling today and broke some of the tension, frankly. >> bernie, does it hurt at all? does the jury look at that and say, oh, these guys don't know what they are doing. if they don't know what they are doing with the tech issues, maybe they don't know what they are doing with the case? first of all, in my experience, there...
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during redirect, prosecutor bernie de la rionda hammered home the theory that zimmerman profiled martin from the start. >> if i were to believe that somebody was committing a crime, could that not be profiling that person? >> object, your honor. >> overruled. >> do you understand the question? >> yes, i do. it could be construed as such, yes. >> zimmerman's best friend that recommended zimmerman always carry his concealed weapon on him took the stand. he interviewed zimmerman for a book he wrote, on cross examination explained why zimmerman told him he feared for his life. >> do you recall if he even told you that trayvon martin had touched the gun or just that he was reaching for it? >> i thought he had said he had grabbed the gun. >> reporter: prosecutors then brought out a witness that said there were no fingerprints of martin found on zimmerman's gun. still to come for the state, trayvon martin's mother, sabrina fulton, expected to give emotional testimony for the jury listening to the 911 call with screams in the background identifying that as her son. >> thank you. >>> hundreds of
during redirect, prosecutor bernie de la rionda hammered home the theory that zimmerman profiled martin from the start. >> if i were to believe that somebody was committing a crime, could that not be profiling that person? >> object, your honor. >> overruled. >> do you understand the question? >> yes, i do. it could be construed as such, yes. >> zimmerman's best friend that recommended zimmerman always carry his concealed weapon on him took the stand. he...
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of jacksonville, angela corey who has been in the courtroom every day during the trial, and bernie de la rionda is her top prosecutor, her top litigator in the jacksonville office. those two people could easily testify in person. that's why i'm starting to think that perhaps this would be an expert witness by the defense, perhaps to talk about the toxicology results of trayvon martin. all i've got for you right now. >> shepard: just a minute ago before you came back from the break they were explaining this isn't going to be the same thing that what happened with the skype. so they're working on this. for a jury to be watching and testimony coming in on skype, is that a big deal? >> not a smart idea. the juries have to be stimulated. if you have someone live that can be animated, testify well, that's going to hold their attention much more than a television or computer that can just make them zone out. not smart. especially when credibility is a key. >> i agree with you but if i'm the prosecutor, no, no, no, they want somebody to be here, let them bring them here, they have subpoena power just l
of jacksonville, angela corey who has been in the courtroom every day during the trial, and bernie de la rionda is her top prosecutor, her top litigator in the jacksonville office. those two people could easily testify in person. that's why i'm starting to think that perhaps this would be an expert witness by the defense, perhaps to talk about the toxicology results of trayvon martin. all i've got for you right now. >> shepard: just a minute ago before you came back from the break they...
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. >> and as you said, bernie de la rionda, using those words of george zimmerman where he says these blanks always get away, and these blanking punks. well, he says those words indicate for this jury ill will, spite, and hatred, and those are all necessary to convict of second degree murder in the state of florida. the jurors, taking notes the whole trial, taking fewer notes today during these close arguments, appearing very intensely riveting and watching the prosecutor. >> shepard: the judge made at least one other critical ruling, a series of them, about jury instructions and what a tussle that was. >> that was more of a tussle this morning than anybody anticipated, especially after the state dropped the aggravated assault possible lesser defense. when the jury goes into the deliberations room tomorrow afternoon at some point, the six women will have to decide whether they convict george zimmerman of second degree murder, of a lesser charge of manslaughter, which could still send zimmerman to prison for 15 years, but one thing the defense wanted and clued the judge decided not to
. >> and as you said, bernie de la rionda, using those words of george zimmerman where he says these blanks always get away, and these blanking punks. well, he says those words indicate for this jury ill will, spite, and hatred, and those are all necessary to convict of second degree murder in the state of florida. the jurors, taking notes the whole trial, taking fewer notes today during these close arguments, appearing very intensely riveting and watching the prosecutor. >>...
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yesterday prosecutor bernie de la rionda -- >> a teenager is dead. he is dead through no fault of his own. he is dead because another man-made assumptions, unfortunately because his assumptions were wrong, trayvon benjamin martin no longer walks on this earth. >> joining me now is managing editor of the grio.com and an msnbc contributor, joyoid, and msnbc legal analyst lisa bloom. lisa, i want to go to you first. we know the prosecution is going toby g begin its rebuttal. a lot brought up in the defense closing arguments, the crux seeming to rest on the notion that there is too much of a reasonable doubt to convict george zimmerman. where does the prosecution begin as it must in the next few minutes? >> well, i would begin by starting out with what mark o'mara missed in his closing argument. he really didn't respond at all to the big lies that the prosecution has put out there about george zimmerman. yes, he said people have inconsistencies when they tell stories over and over again, and that's true. that would explain some of the minor inconsistenci
yesterday prosecutor bernie de la rionda -- >> a teenager is dead. he is dead through no fault of his own. he is dead because another man-made assumptions, unfortunately because his assumptions were wrong, trayvon benjamin martin no longer walks on this earth. >> joining me now is managing editor of the grio.com and an msnbc contributor, joyoid, and msnbc legal analyst lisa bloom. lisa, i want to go to you first. we know the prosecution is going toby g begin its rebuttal. a lot...
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. >> i suppose the moment the state attorney bernie de la rionda. i'm back with my all-star panel.u have a tweet, tweet me at piers morgan and we may read out the tweet. this is from isabella, a famous philippine actress entertainer. she says following the george zimmerman trial on the piers morgan show, i'm so confused. the arguments are all very compelling. jane, that really cuts to this trial, doesn't it? >> it does. >> the arguments are very compelling on both sides, very, very difficult i think for these jurors and i hope they take time to really think this through because it's an important decision. >> it is important, and the issue that has to be brought home, piers, two things, one, not guilty does not mean he was proven innocent. not guilty means the state has not proven it's case beyond a reasonable doubt, our standard in this country and it's important, it does not mean innocent. number two, the prosecutor today with his theater, he ended with the closing argument talking about there was no dna and he of all people knows, dna, trayvon martin has a closed fist and punchin
. >> i suppose the moment the state attorney bernie de la rionda. i'm back with my all-star panel.u have a tweet, tweet me at piers morgan and we may read out the tweet. this is from isabella, a famous philippine actress entertainer. she says following the george zimmerman trial on the piers morgan show, i'm so confused. the arguments are all very compelling. jane, that really cuts to this trial, doesn't it? >> it does. >> the arguments are very compelling on both sides, very,...
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. >> reporter: the prosecution, john guy, who played straight man to the more animated bernie de la rionda. >> how does he get the gun out? >> reporter: and throughout the trial, implored the jury to think with their hearts. >> i'm asking you to use your common sense, use your heart, use what you know is real and use what you heard and what the law is in the case. >> reporter: overnight speaking from his heart. >> we have from the beginning just prayed for the truth to come out and for peace to be the result, and that continues to be our prayers. and we believe they have been answered. >> reporter: but not those of trayvon martin's parents who said through their attorney their hearts were broken, but urging calm. >> this is a very trying time for their family. and we ask that you respect their privacy. for trayvon to rest in peace, we must all be peaceful. thank you. >> reporter: now, noticeably absent from last night's verdict, trayvon martin's parents. over the past couple of days, they have been getting an increasing severity of death threats. threats against them. that's what we're lea
. >> reporter: the prosecution, john guy, who played straight man to the more animated bernie de la rionda. >> how does he get the gun out? >> reporter: and throughout the trial, implored the jury to think with their hearts. >> i'm asking you to use your common sense, use your heart, use what you know is real and use what you heard and what the law is in the case. >> reporter: overnight speaking from his heart. >> we have from the beginning just prayed for...
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i think bernie de la rionda was a little too fiery. who am i to tell them? they all did a good job up there. now it's up to the jury. >> he was professorial, giving a lot of history, a lot of background, mark o'mara we're talking about. sunny, some of the stuff he was getting in during the course of the three-week trial in the weeds but maybe he wanted to give those who want a not guilty verdict some ammunition. >> yeah, i think that that conversational style works quite well, somebody for someone like mark o'mara, who generally appears to be that kind of person. we've seen him be interviewed and he doesn't have that fiery type of personality. i was one of those prosecutors that was probably a little more like bernie, but i think mark and jeff are right, you have to be who you are. i do think that it came across a little professorial, perhaps a little slow, not that exciting. but when you're defending someone that's accused of violence and accused of killing someone, perhaps that is tactical, perhaps you don't want to be this fiery, aggressive person. answer
i think bernie de la rionda was a little too fiery. who am i to tell them? they all did a good job up there. now it's up to the jury. >> he was professorial, giving a lot of history, a lot of background, mark o'mara we're talking about. sunny, some of the stuff he was getting in during the course of the three-week trial in the weeds but maybe he wanted to give those who want a not guilty verdict some ammunition. >> yeah, i think that that conversational style works quite well,...
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prosecutor bernie de la rionda, the man we've seen make these objections in court.i wanted you to hear about the obstacles he faced when prosecuting george zimmerman. >> we were left with inconsistent witnesses in terms of what actually happened and his story. we were trying to prove that his story was false. >> inconsistent witnesses. it was an all female jury. three gun owners, by all accounts, a prosecution that may have reached too far for second-degree. obviously not a diverse jury. what do you blame for not getting the verdict that you think was fair? >> i don't know. i think that is why a lot of people are disappointed. they thought that surely the jury would come back and say that you cannot follow a 17-year-old kid walking home from the store with a gun, provoke him, struggle with him, and then shoot him. and i think a lot of people felt that trayvon martin was on trial from beginning to end here. and they felt that he was convicted of causing his own murder. thank you as always. appreciate your time. >>> stand your ground was not formally raised by george
prosecutor bernie de la rionda, the man we've seen make these objections in court.i wanted you to hear about the obstacles he faced when prosecuting george zimmerman. >> we were left with inconsistent witnesses in terms of what actually happened and his story. we were trying to prove that his story was false. >> inconsistent witnesses. it was an all female jury. three gun owners, by all accounts, a prosecution that may have reached too far for second-degree. obviously not a diverse...