and it makes the audio get squeaky and muffled so you can't hear what bernie merino says. it sound like dick tracy's science fiction, but they're actually doing it. to watch this. >> hey, mr. merino, will you -- >> mr. merino do you have any other opinion on [ inaudible ]. i'll be there. do you have any other comments you'd like to share before you leave? >> so you can hear things a little bit until the box gets really close to the microphone. these are videos from the ohio democratic party. the campaign apparently bought an ultrasonic jammic gadget that they're now waving in front of microphones to stop people from being able to record anything that bernie merino says. >> hey, mr. merino, how many of your former employees do you think are going to vote for you? >> la, la, la, can't hear you, not over the sound of of my ultrajamming gadget we bought at a the spy store. appreciate you being here. i know you're in the middle of a campaign. i've never seen anything like this. i have to ask your reaction to it. >> he's been hiding from ohioans the whole election. he rarely talk

joining me now is bernie merino's opponent, senior senator sherrod brown.ou on the show. >> thrilled to be on your show. thank you. >> do you have a take on why it is j.d. vance and bernie merino seem the intent on remaining at odds with what voters want on the subject of abortion and reproductive freedom? >> well, merino thinks he knows better. he passed decision 53 in a huge number across the state. ohioans have clearly stated what they think. he holds onto an actual abortion ban. says he's 100% pro-life, no exceptions rape, incest. and they're spending a lot of money on this issue where they should go to sherrodbrown.com and contribute 15 or $20. he thinks he knows better. he wants to override what ohio voters said, and we're simply not going to let him go to washington. >> it's such an extraordinarily tight race. it's staggering to me you'd take a position so distinctly the opposite of voter demands and for the harris-walz ticket and voters writ large, unionization petitions doubled during president biden's administration. and yet the teamsters and inte

bernie moreno trying to and see sherrod brown. most expensive race in the country and at one point leanind democrat but then a toss-up and merino arenoge and upy razor-thin margin of .5% and 20 may now bernie moreno, ohio will go strong for trump anddnc. brown knows this and did not attend the dnc and trying to distance himself from biden-harris. why won't this work this time? >> remember he wanted to be her vice presidential nominee in 2018 because the two of them for the most liberal senators inns america.s he he hasn't changed. what happens is he pretends to be a moderate. he has president trump and his ads and want you to believe he isan.t is bipartisan. what is different this time is thanks to ability to raise money, we have him on the ropes. we need more.ding go to bernie moreno.com and heln us because he is spending a fortune to convince people he has something he is not. b >> laura: is trying to trump voters by basically saying he has a democratic populace andios strong entree to, trade protections for american corporations and so forth. but how does that name as a strategy to close with as far as confidence for the harris ca