bernie sanders joins us next.g right back. > there's only one president that i know of in history that robbed medicare $716 billion to pay for a new risky program of his own that we call obama care. think of that. what paul ryan and i have talked about is saving medicare. >> this president stole, he didn't cut medicare. he stole $700 billion from medicare to fund obama care. if any person in this entire debate has blood on their hands in regard to medicare, it's barack obama. >> folks, they will stop at nothing. republicans are already playing offense on the issue of medicare, and they're doing really what they do best, they just are repeating a lie. here's mitt romney on the stump today about it. >> my plan for medicare is very similar to his plan for medicare, which is do not change the program for current retires or new retires, but do not do what the president has done, and that is to cut $700 billion out of the current program. >> romney and the republicans failed to mention, get this, the $700 billion reduct

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let's turn to bernie sanders, a fighter for the people. senator, good to have you with us.as from the stump today. republicans are saying they are saving medicare. what do you call it? >> well, everybody understands that they are destroying medicare as it is currently constituted. what they intend to do is convert medicare over a period of years into a voucher program. so what they're going to say to a 70-year-old senior who is dealing with cancer or heart disease, here is a check for $8,000. go out, get the best private insurance policy you can, and lots of luck. now, you tell me, ed, if somebody is dealing with cancer or heart disease or a serious illness, what $8,000 is going to do. everybody knows what it means is that, a, seniors are going to have to come out of -- come up with more money out of their own pocket or their kids are going to have to help them. or worse, they're not going to get the care they need. >> senator, what they are doing is they are playing this $700 billion bullet point, saying that you heard reince priebus, that president obama stole this money,

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then we will be talking with senator bernie sanders from vermont who is on a tear on this 77 accountsident, senior vice president for media matters for america. one of the organizations along action i would say, with the center for american progress that makes it possible for us to do what we do every day which is bring you the truth and bring you the facts and ex posed lies being told by the other side. media matters for america, a great media watch down and you should check them out and make them one of your favorite spots go to every day, media matters matters.org. you have got enough to keep you business these days with this presidential campaign. >> talking about the re of course, to the paul ryan pick. it's so interesting. rupert murdoch pushing for this pages of weekly standard all pushing for paul ryan. it came at an interesting time because there was a lot of critique from the far right of the romney campaign. i think it was a no the to the right-wing media, romney saying, i need you. so now they are all very happy about this. >> you forget what rush lim babaugh says, somebo

is warming, or perhaps senator inhofe is incorrect that global warming is a hoax. >> that was bernie sandersofessor richard muller, your response? >> i'm hoping our study on global warming will help achieve the scientific consensus. i understand why many skeptics in congress have opposed or have opposed it in the past. i have been there and talk to them in the past. they have raised issues which were once that i considered correct, issues that now i think we have raised. just because global warming is real doesn't mean everything you attribute to it is real. hurricane katrina was not caused by global warming. polar bears are not dying because of global warming. the reason temperatures in the u.s. is not a result of global warming. if you look at the complete detail, you find it was matched by more than cooling elsewhere in the world. many people attribute every change in the weather to global warming. i can understand why people object to that. but the temperature change itself is real, and it is due to humans. i think because i now feel this is true and we could make the scientific case wer

bernie sanders has exposed the fed giving out trillions of dollars in addition to the tarp bailout. >> barney frank has taken a hike. >> that is worth talking about. you see in this congress michele bachmann and michele bachmann one of these -- wannabe's. there are fights about redistricting. >> use of the one strength the president obama, his rhetorical skill, is not sufficient. >> it has not been used at the scale necessary in this time of crisis. america is in a crossroads. this is a moment comparable to coming out of the great depression. this was a moment coming out of the financial crisis when tectonic shifts are under way in this country. hope is not a policy. policy is a wonky word. hope needs a story, a narrative. here is what is going on in this country. president obama now is speaking more forcefully about what he wants to do it and against smoking out those who are obstructing. this is really wonky. anyway, i think one of the most exciting things are the movements of our times. i closed this book out before occupy. i wrote about wisconsin. our correspondent was there for 5

two thousand and one decided to stimulate the economy you know with his tax cuts and whatnot bernie sanders was pushing for everybody in america to get a three hundred dollars check bush adopted that not only did email the track out but i remember when i got it there was a letter attached to it that said president bush has given you those three hundred dollars you should be so happy with him you know or words to that effect how could it be this so many americans don't understand what's going on. well that's a perfect example because when the obama guys decided that they were going to do a similar similar tax cut through through payroll they had they thought they'd be smart because actually behavioral ecan. mix show that when you get a check like that you're more likely to save it but if you just sort of slip it in through decreased withholding so you get maybe ten bucks in your in your paycheck every week then you're more likely to spend it in stimulate the economy because you're less likely to notice it but you're less likely to notice it so wrong the manual running around saying we're den

and lobbied so hard they got the estate tax eliminated entirely in two thousand and ten senator bernie sanders pointed out yesterday that so far we know of twenty six billionaires worth over one hundred forty six billion dollars in aggregate who have already invested or committed to invest over five hundred sixty one million dollars in this election cycle most of it to defeat democrats who want to raise their taxes the good thing is that young people are waking up and realizing that the libertarian hostle the billionaires are feeding them is that. just like tea partiers are waking up to their having been had by billionaires who want to privatized the social security hopefully soon america will regain its sanity and will go back to viewing those cranky billionaires the way my dad's generation did as a republican president dwight eisenhower did when eisenhower referred to their ilk as small in number and stupid and not stupid anymore if we really value american traditions we really must push back on this kind of power and influence in american politics for more information go to move to amend or

. >> there are many members, we've talked to some of them here on the show, who are being -- bernie sanderskeith ellison and i forget who the others are. >> in the past year alone, 13 different amendment proposals. mostly it's conversation starters but it's fascinating and encouraging to see people are willing to have those conversations. now, at our count, about 120 members at congress, senate and house side are supportive of the amendment in general. >> congress, it has to be introduced two-thirds of each body has to approve it? >> correct. >> is there any other way you can get it? then the states? >> three-quarters of the states have to ratify it. >> has to start in congress. correct? >> typically, that's been the way it's been done for the last years. >> i was wondering if people could bypass congress. >> article v part of the constitution basically allows a constitutional convention to be called. if two-thirds of the states call for a convention, it could be convened. the challenge is we have only done that once when we wrote the constitution. people really don't know exactly how that

they're going to have to scream about their socialist policies, and we just have to, as bernie sanders taxes on the rich as high as they need to be and not touch the program that was ordained by the saint fdr. um, you know, they talk about fundamentalists and their beliefs and their inability to reconsider things. no, liberals will not reconsider social security. fdr gave it to us, it is set in stone, it was passed down by moses, and we may not consider making any changes to it no matter how -- that bankrupting the country. megyn: your thoughts on that, guy. >> well, i think it's interesting. the 1980 dynamic had two things going for it. it had a failed incumbent, and it had a dynamic opponent. and i think there's a lot of parallels here. i mean, the jimmy carter of 2012 is barack obama presiding over an economic malaise of his own making. he's made it worse. high gas prices, people feeling overregulated, anemic growth, terrible unemployment. i mean, there are some very striking similarities between jimmy carter and barack obama, and i think that's the reason that we want an ideas-base

. >> senator bernie sanders on the big show tomorrow. >> very excited.

so for bernie sanders to be saying -- >> what is the question. >> i wanted to put that out there come you guys can comment on it. >> cannot get any responses? >> i'm going to say that i came to praise. they wrote a great people paper in 2006. the effect of income tax rate, the data was 30% in 1960 and 30% in 2005. >> we have time for one last question right here. >> adam hall from the university of southern california. he said twice today that the real income of the rich has been flat for the 20th century. so are you saying that all of the growth and income in the united states over 100 years went to the non-rich? >> all i am saying is that we -- we have talked about the database and nine years of life. it is time to marry that with eti -- i have to admit that i do not know the answer is but i do know that it's going to be a lot flatter than this, you know, u-shaped thing. >> let me ask the final question for everybody. the one area i assume there would be universal agreement, as it would be good to have policies that improve the living standards of the poor. if you identify 30 second

remember during the social security debate, they would say crisis. [ screaming ] if you listen to bernie sanders to gut it. or privatize it. we're not in a crisis. >> no. it does. medicare is so cost-effective compared to any private insurance program. the doctors i've worked with, it pays less but it is not that it is underpaying. it is that the private insurance plans when they do pay are overpaying compared to what people are getting through medicare. and doctors i've worked with throughout this healthcare fight like medicare because it actually pays. it is a much more efficient program for doctors. >> stephanie: talk to us for a second about medicaid though. it is going to totally gut medicaid as well. >> from medicaid, the way it works now is the federal government helps to manage the state medicaid programs and what they want to do is give a block grant to the states and let them manage the money on their own. it would end up gutting that program and the states wouldn't end up using it toward care for people who need it the most. it is not a -- it is not going to be well-organized from the