but i actually do not agree with bernie sanders and all of the spending.t needs to be done wisely and it needs to be done strategically and i think it infusion of capital and yes, there are many areas where we need to improve but i don't agree with mr. sanders, i never have and i don't believe you bring people down in order to raise people up. james: i'm sorry before we get to liz do you think the three and half trillion aspiration for bernie sanders and debbie much smaller? >> i do believe it'll be much smaller, obviously both know very well this is the very, very beginning of and argue his process and the legislative development process. committees will be submitting their data and their details for what they want in this and that just begins a debate of negotiation and compromise and we just found infrastructure bill. james: liz, this is bound to concern people. >> i think it is really a mystery why we have turned over economic programs to bernie sanders, remember it wasn't that long ago when democrat leaders fell that he was way too far left and way to

nina turner, a familiar face a long-time bernie sanders ally. bernie sanders was out in force endorsing her. establishment versus progressive. and we had a flavor here of

we just voted on a bill yesterday, it is a bernie sanders budget.hat will not be well received throughout the country. if that actually gets done and passed. host: jane, virginia, independent. caller: thank you, general, for your service. i am a retired navy nurse. the minutes that trump surrendered us to the taliban and essentially sold us out, you guys should have been on it, getting people out of afghanistan asap, but you did not. it was not set up for failure. it is on the gop. it is on everyone who did not do their job. the bottom line is the left and the moderates are tired of the shenanigans that you guys are pulling in d.c. we did not like january 6, we do not like having the taliban at camp david. do your job. mandatory vaccinations. stop blaming each other. we are so tired of your behavior. goodbye. guest: i appreciate the feedback. the fact is that joe biden has been president since january. he adopted the plan that was passed on to him. that fact is that the state department has been a very slow to get the visas going. it just started ma

caroline: the senator from vermont, bernie sanders, currently pushing against any bipartisan adoptionthe cryptocurrency amendment. it looks as though he is blocking senator pat toomey's request for unanimous consent to adopt that amendment. taylor: this is where i kind of love that our worlds collide. caroline nails it as she does every day on cryptocurrencies. some of the municipal bonds, as we figure out how to build a road and a bridge. some people were worried that build america bonds were not included. how are you think about the way in which we are doing this? >> this is the sausage making process of legislating. it is not pretty, not orderly, it does not always get the best policy, but overall you get to an outcome. they are still trying to push it in the house. not sure if it will make it in this one but it could make it in the next one. it is an ugly process, not pretty. but we think we will get there on the major things. romaine: the whole idea that the democrats, particularly joe biden, has pitched this idea that this really is not fiscal stimulus, this is more about longer

she's an attorney and a former state director for bernie sanders and 201600 cross roles and effects. that means you can jump in anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. caleb b, let me go to you 1st because we've kind of bumped heads in the past about this issue here. what, what does socialism mean to you? and i really want to make it very clear here. i don't really want to go into the pros and cons of it. i want to talk about the meaning of it in, in the context of american politics because, well, everyone know it's, i'm a conservative, but i have to show my cards a little bit here. i'm really tired of conservatives throwing that word out is it is if it really means much anymore, go ahead. caleb in new york will the essence of socialism in the sense that karl marx and glad you're letting others wrote about the essence of it is growth and progress. the idea is the means of production. the banks, factories, major industries should be organized to serve public good and liberated from the anarchy of production and the chaos of the market. and if we can get beyond profits in command

the democrats are caught in the logic of bernie sanders andoc aoc and the left wing of the party.ntitled socialism now that's why bernie sanders is excited could be more inflatione and faster that's what larry has been trying to warn them about and this is a furtherre reminder that the biden administration is committed to treating illegal immigrants better than they treat americansra tt i think it's very significant the biden administration refuses to tell us where they are sending peoplela last month they had 210,000 illegal immigrants which is about the city of birmingham alabama. have no idea where they were sent. we have no idea how w many have covid or criminal records. a friend of mine told me but we cannot verify they were )ci4 afford that turns out to be true in a situation where you the average viewer cannot afford to go there for vacation but i i seats were taken up by an illegal immigrant that is how sick the administration is. demand the governors and demand the governors and states have a right to know what the government is doing to change their states forever.

let me know if it's that i did like and i and i actually hear an echo of bernie sanders there. and, and i have to admit ladon, it's turning into ancient history, but i've said repeatedly on this program and 2016, there were only 2 candidates that i follow that was donald trump and bernie sanders . ok. so because his message does resonate, resonate with people and with a lot of conservatives, believe it or not. ok, caleb? i mean, so, i mean in the american context, because, i mean, i've lived around the world. i've lived most of my entire life, not my adult life, my entire life in different countries in the world, and all of them have had health care, all of them. okay. some of them better than others here. so why is it that america can take best practices? because that's the question i asked myself, all of the time. go ahead. ok. well, part of the rise of neo liberal economics, milton friedman and iran, and alan greenspan was pushing this notion that any involved by the government in the economy is by definition, socialism and leading to communism. and a lot of americans believ

over the weekend we saw senator bernie sanders supporting neen that turner. we saw members of the congressional black caucus supporting shontel brown. president biden's agenda was at the center of the conversation. which one of these candidates will help push his agenda forward. shontel brown was the answer. she said she was going to run as a partner. it was a coalition of moderate

it's a blow to progressives with turner endorsed by bernie sanders and alexandria ocasio-cortez falling short of the moderate brown backed by hillary clinton and several members of the congressional black caucus including jim clyburn. meanwhile in the republican primary in ohio's 15th district the disgraced former president's candidate mike carey came out on top in a 11-candidate field. and that's tonight's reid out. and joy comes back tomorrow night so be sure to tune in. among her guests donald trump's niece, mary trump. and i'll see you again right here at 10:00 a.m. this sunday. "all in" with chris hayes starts right now. >>> tonight on "all in," donald trump's coup came closer to succeeding than we ever knew. tonight the smoking gun document that could have up ended democracy as we know it and the doj official who tried to help trump steal the election.

bernie sanders acolyte, if you will, in nina turner, who was not happy when she lost. she said this was big evil money, manipulating the race. what is the impact? that's a primary in ohio but you see this every day on capitol hill, these same tensions between the progressives and the establishment. >> this was a really interesting split screen on the hill. you had the big eviction moratorium and then the establishment candidate won in ohio. all of the senior democrats were texting me like let's see what matters here. it's the primary. progressives can do so much. the eviction moratorium was important but there are only so many sit-ins and outside activist tactics you can do on the hill. >> it's interesting because if you just look at the interpret, the progressives dominate the

while nina turner campaigned with bernie sanders and other progressives. what does your win tell us about where the future of the democratic party lies and what voters want in ohio? there's been a lot said about your win, eric adams' win in the democratic candidacy for mayor of new york. in your opinion, is that being overblown? is it something else? what does your win mean? >> so, first of all, reverend al, thank you for having me on your show. i'm a big fan. but i think this win says a lot of different things. first and foremost, i've never really ascribed to labels. when i'm helping people get their needs met, when someone calls me and says, shontel, how can i get my hands on a ppe loan, or when is the next food bank or how can i get rental

stuck close to joe biden, beat out nina turner, a former very well known state senator backed by bernie sanders. the results, a big loss for the progressive wing of the democratic party. >>> coming up, new york state teachers union says it's against a vaccine mandate. how do they plan to open up schools and keep kids and teachers safe? we'll be asking the president of one of the nation's largest teachers unions next. lower interest rate. my principal is going down. sofi is a place where you can start to tackle those money goals today. ♪♪ ♪all by yourself.♪ you look a little lost. i can't find my hotel. oh. oh! ♪♪ this is not normal. no. ♪♪ so? ♪♪ right? go with us and find millions of flexible options,

in election news, chantel brown has defeated nina turner, bernie sanders former campaign cochair in a closely watched democratic primary to fill the seat of marcia fudge in ohio's 11th congressional district. brown is the chair of the cuyahoga county democratic party and received the backing of many establishment democrats including hillary clinton and james clyburn as well as the democratic majority for israel pac that spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on the race. nina turner was endorsed by senator sanders, alexandria ocasio-cortez, and other aggressive's. turner says we did not lose this race, people money maligned the selection. the trunk backed coal lobbyist mike carey won the republican primary, defeating 10 others. in afghanistan, at least eight people died on tuesday when a car bomb exploded in a heavily secured area of couple outside

bernie sanders' acolyte nina turner for ohio's 11th district. joining me now, former adviser to the hillary clinton campaign, adrian elrod. and everybody knows who this man is, eugene daniels, political playbook, coauthor. thank you both for coming to "the sunday show." so i want to put up on the screen this quote from hakeem jeffries, member of the house leadership, democrat from the great state of new york, where he says the extreme left is obsessed with talking trash about mainstream democrats on twitter when the majority of the electorate constitute mainstream democrats at the polls. adrian, you are -- you work with democrats. you're with the democratic party. does he have a point? >> well, i think the point that he was making, jonathan, is that elections are not fought and won on twitter. that is just not where the majority of voters spend their time. people like you and me spend a lot of time on twitter, but that's not where the majority of

that's a name you might know from cnn and a top ally of bernie sanders, against shontel brown, a cuyahoga county congress member who is influenced by the dems. we talk about covid and you have to occupy the sexes to see if we can replicate it. listen to president biden giving props to the most vaccinated state in the country. they may be the first to reach true herd immunity. listen. >> this past week, the most vaccinated state in america, vermont, has seen just five new cases, five per day of covid-19 for every 100,000 people who live in that state. that means on any given day, only 30 people in the entire state of vermont got covid-19.

nina turner who is a recognized face here, a former cnn commentator, a big supporter of bernie sanders, she supports the biden agenda but wanted to push the message in a much more progressive direction. it's a classic age-old fight we've been watching inside the democratic party. a moderate lane or progressive lane. the moderate won out. so there's no question with president biden in the white

>> bernie sanders is back on the campaign trail. this time, asking ohio voters to send his friend nina turner to washington. >> the next member of congress, nina turner. >> james clyburn spent the weekend here taking a different stance. saying president biden needs a loyal partner. >> he needs somebody there who will work with him. >> here in cleveland, a contentious congressional primary contest is reviving old divisions between the democratic establishment and the party's progressive wing. turner and brown are vying to fill the seat of marcia fudge, who stepped down to serve in biden's cabinet. heavyweights from across the party are weighing in. sanders and alexandria ocasio-cortez for turner. >> this is where elections are won. >> and hillary clinton and leaders of the congressional black caucus backing brown. >> there is no contrast. it's all about chantelle brown. >> tuesday's election is a key test for the party's direction and the biden agenda. with candidates and other groups flooding the airwaves, spending

akron, ohio, where you saw schon tell brown beat nina turner, who was a well-known surrogate for bernie sanders. we saw it in the virginia gubernatorial primary and we saw it in the new york city democratic mayoral primary where eric adams beat back a slew of progressive candidates. the bottom line is, at the ballot box we have an idea of what the base of the democratic party looks like. it looks a lot more like the democratic coalition joe biden put together. in congress right now, the base of the party is perceived of the progressives. the question is, where are democrats going to govern? govern towards that base in the electorate or the supposed base on social media and that they've seen elected to some parts of congress? >>> when we come back, more evidence that in politics, twitter is just not american.

she beat progressive candidate nina turner, a longtime bernie sanders ally who now famously compared voting to eating a bowl of excrement. [ laughter ] it really is interesting seeing how this played out in ohio. we were all watching this because we hear republicans often talk about how democrats are these liberal socialists, right? but then you see brown's win in ohio as well as eric adams in new york city. president biden, sure doesn't seem like progressives have control of the democratic party. >> well, as an ohioan, i think ohio voters are very far from socialism. if you look at the district in which brown and turner were running, that was former secretary fudge's district. before that congressman stephanie tubbs jones. very democratic, black women, northeast working-class folks.

bernie sanders wants it. the far left wants it. speaker pelosi, trying to talk about everything but afghanistan. also up next the latest on hurricane ida, knocking out power in the gulf coast. rescues now underway. energy expert phil flynn joins us. stay with us on "the evening edit." >> it was loud. we could hear the wind. we could hear things hitting the house, hitting the vehicles. heard a lot of crashing sounds. that was probably the hardest hurricane i have ever been

the ohio special election on tuesday beating nina turner an outspoken liberal who co-chaired bernie sanders 2020 campaign. joining me now to talk about is democratic strategist and senior vice president of fire house strategies michael starr hopkins. thank you so much for being with us. i just wonder, you know, what do you think about what -- really just about what jeffreys is saying, this statement? is he right on? >> hey, thanks for having me. i think jeffries hit the nail on the head. look, for every a.o.c. and cory bush, there's a stephanie murphy and a conner lam who managed to be democrats and win in a swing district. and when you have the progressive wing of the party attacking the establishment wing of the party, you end up doing the bidding of republicans. this administration has managed to get a $1.9 trillion stimulus passed, 165 million americans vaccinated and child credit that has been transformational. so have we gotten everything we wanted done? no. but we've gotten so much done.

side, you have nina turner, a former state senator who was, of course, a surrogate for senator bernie sanders during the presidential campaign. she is advocating for universal health care and a $50 minimum wage in an effort to advance more progressive policies. on the establishment side is a local county council member who chairs the county's democratic party. she has aligned herself as a loyalist to president joe biden. joining me now, our nbc news senior political editor. so the race for the 11th district in the cleveland area, it has drawn a lot of national attention from democrats and it's taking a bit of a nasty turn. certainly when you're talking about interparty fighting. take us how -- take us through this. how contentious is this race getting? >> yeah. . watching the tv advertisements airing in this cleveland-akron district are the nastiest democrat on democrat ads i've seen probably since going back

joe biden said he was a moderate, and nothing like bernie sanders. he is bernie sanders.sanders agenda. and bernie sanders is never been a democratic socialist, he is what he is, an old brooklyn red, i remember guys like this, he has control of democrat party, and they want more control, i heard ed markey say, a cook from massachusetts -- a kook from massachusetts, i heard system say, this is only the beginning, we have a lot more to do with the economy and climate change, this is a first step. and so people need to understand they are never going to be satisfied because people who stir the pot like this and turn systems inside out and create consequences they never look in the mirror, it is the fact they don't have enough of your money or control. this is the first step? you talk about 6.5 trillion, that does not even include the 6 trillion proposed budget by joe biden. >> that is right. well put, we're talking about numbers that i never thought we would be talking about in this country, i first came to washington, 35 years ago, reagan was president, i remember passing f

you know, it's bernie sanders reconciliation ideas that are going to get put through.fore. that the progressives takes on crime and so forth, you know, almost cost him the election. nancy pelosi can only spare a few seats. and what is most instructive about the case you mentioned about the eviction continuing this, joe biden is continuing even after he admitted he doesn't really have the constitutional authority to do that. and one reason that nancy pelosi and want him to do it is i think they are not sure they have the votes or don't want to go on record. that's one of the things about the progressive experiment they really don't want to put it to the legislative test and to go out there and have votes. they would much rather have executive orders and so forth. that speaks to the deep down fears a lot of this stuff is not popular. >> this get's to the left's argument during the trump administration that he was busting up norms and getting things done through executive orders which the opposing party is always going to have that criticism of the president in power. the

that's why bernie sanders is excited. this bill could be entitled "more inflation faster." that's what larry summers has been trying to warn them about. and this bill is a further reminder that the biden administration is committed to treating illegal immigrants better than they treat americans. i think it's very significant that the biden administration refuses to tell us where they are sending people. last month they had 210,000 illegal immigrants that wean off, which is about the city of birmingham, alabama. we have no idea where they were sent. no idea how many of them had covid. no idea how many had criminal records. a friend of mine told me, we haven't verified verify the, that they are being flown into hawaii. if that turns out to be true then you're in a situation where the average viewer can't afford to go to hawaii for vacation but there are seats being taken on planes by an illegal immigrant. it'll tell you just how sick this administration is. >> laura: there needs to be legal action filed for demand of this information. the governors have a right to know what t

we have bernie sanders, joe manchin, and everybody in between. and we show respect. we don't belittle or denigrate or anything. second and most important, every member of our caucus realizes unity is our strength. with 50 votes out of time when republicans on too many issues refused to cooperate at all, as you saw last night, we all need to be unified. everyone knows that. so that does not mean people don't fight for their beliefs but at the end of their day, we have to come together. thus far, we have. is it going to be easy on reconciliation? absolutely not. but if past this prologue, we have a decent chance. >> [indiscernible] sen. schumer: i want to get the reconciliation bill done on september 15 then we will see where we move after that. thank you, everybody. that is it. >> [indiscernible] sen. schumer: talk to cory booker. >> governor cuomo on governor? sen. schumer: ready to step down. >> president biden today will speak about his build back better agenda that deals with infrastructure, jobs, and the economy. that is scheduled for 1:15 p.m. eastern. we will h

i mean, i always like to point out, no one who endorsed bernie sanders had was employed on the op ed pages of any of the 1200 newspapers in the united states. no newspaper in the united states ever endorse bernie sanders during any context whatsoever. yet over 30 percent of the american public loves him to death. so what does that say about the about how the media is representing its readership and it's yours? yeah. well ron, you know, because anything that and i have to be honest with you, bernie's been turning into more and more of a disappointment. but if we look at 2016 even 2020 in the primary kids. absolutely right. you know, which, let's ignore what 30 percent of the population actually thinks. okay. and if you don't report it, then it doesn't exist. isn't amazing how that works. go ahead. wrong. oh, absolutely. and then in both cases in 20162020. you know, and by the way, just i agree with you. bertie has been letting us out a lot of recent. but you know, putting that aside, i mean 20162020 m b c would show trump's empty podium instead of showing bernie sanders talking to are

we have bernie sanders, joe manchin, and everybody in between. and we show respect. we don't belittle or denigrate or anything. but second and most important, every member of our caucus realizes unity is our strength. with 50 boats, at a time when republicans on too many issues refused to cooperate at all, as you saw last night, we all need to be unified. and everyone knows that. so that does not mean people don't fight for their beliefs but at the end of the day, we have to come together. thus far, we have. is it going to be easy on reconciliation? absolutely not. but if past this prologue, wewe. a good decent chance. i told you i want to get the reconciliation bill done on september 15. we will see will remove after that. thank you, everybody. that is it. talk to cory booker. ♪ >> c-span's washington journal. every day, we are taking your calls live on the air on the news of the day and discussing policy issues that impact you. coming up thursday morning, we will talk about student loan debt and potential changes to forgiveness and repayment programs with a student

he's nothing like bernie sanders. he is bernie sanders. this is the bernie sanders agenda.sanders isn't a democratic socialist. he's never been a democratic socialist. he is what he is. he's an old brooklyn [inaudible]. i remember guys like this. he's got control of the democrat party. the democrat party wants more control. i heard ed markey say who is from massachusetts, i heard him say, steve moore, this is only the beginning. we've got a lot more to do when it comes to the economy and to climate change and all the rest of it. this is a first step, and so people need to understand, they are never going to be satisfied because people who stir the pot like this and turn systems inside out and create all kinds of horrendous consequences, some predictable, some not, they never look in the mirror. they are never circumspect. it is the fact they don't have enough power or your money or control. this is the first step? you talk about 6.5 trillion. that doesn't even include the 6 trillion dollars proposed budget by joe biden, does it? >> that's right, well put. you know, so we're

. >> the new ad featuring bernie sanders and what larry gerston thinks is the most important thing to know two weeks before election day. >>> and still hazy across the bay area. you can see it here in walnut creek. but we'll take a look at the air quality for tomorrow. and cooler weather moving in, in about eight minutes. . >>> the recall election, two weeks from tomorrow, and governor newsom is bringing in more supporters to campaign for him. >> the last thing we need is to have some right-wing republican governor in california. >> senator bernie sanders, the latest big name to show support for the governor, urging people to vote no. the new ad will be televised statewide as well as online. election day, tuesday, september 14. >> not just national politicians. there are plenty of organizations and newspapers endorsing governor newsom or recommending he be removed from office, recalled. do political endorsements matter anymore? back in the day they were a big deal, are they still? >> you're right, back in the day. before social media, before so many of us dropped out of these groups t

thousands and thousands of the republican people with the bernie sanders supporters and people donating only person they have never ever known as bernie sanders but they just want to get their kids back in school. i've been in the congress last five years fighting the superduper majority i have seen what is wrong with our state government and why the greatest a in the nation is now last and just about everything. i know what to do to start fixing things on day number one to translate the greatest citizens movement into the fundamental change that we need with profound national implications. >> right. and then the latino community i can tell you that because i was part of the and my family i have a lot of family there. they are frustrated with governor newsom they are unhappy with the way he is running the state. the unemployment rates are skyrocketing. taxes are skyrocketing. latino families are strong nuclear families. they were card and they need the jobs. they want someone who can lead the state. they don't care who it is. they want someone who knows what they are doing. someone who

over the democrat party and the pressure that chuck schumer must be under his enormous allowed bernie sandersuild is 3.5 trillion which we talked about before probably will wind up being north of $5 trillion when it is over, what he's done is move the entire democrat contingent so far left to the point it looks like aoc is calling the shots right now. maria: before we move on to the border, what kind of taxes should we expect from the 5 trillion-dollar bill coming in the fall now that the senate has paved the way for, who is getting a tax increase? >> first i'll say, everybody is. what's happening there accelerating inflation that a norm is pace, were seen inflation on the run in america right now, that's the most pernicious tax because it affects everybody the retirees the most everyone's dollars are worthless. what the $3.5 trillion of additional money along with a 1.2 trillion infrastructure will put more and more money into the economy and more inflationary pressure that will be the broadest base tax but to come back to your question this will cause corporate taxes to go up in the make am

bernie sanders used to be in the periphery of american politics in the democratic party now he's writingted states of america and probably will pass in some form. tell us what is in it so people can get a sense how big this is. >> that budget reflects that everything from a civilian climate core to universal pre- k free community college also align about lowering the medicare eligibility age. it doesn't say so i guess that is a committee to decide that but the key thing to understand is a lot of these are huge creation and expansion of entitlement programs and even if this budget can only find them for a time-limited number of years because of the reconciliation rules the democrats are betting that once there is a universal pre- k system set up it will be in perpetuity. paul: that is crucial the entitlements it is automatic you get them if you qualify by certain standards i'm trying to think the last time republicans or the congress repealed silly when i can think of is 1989 but also how rare it is with a catastrophic health care bill. that they are betting basically we will get this in