above $5 million -- is that something -- we talked about revenue raisers before elizabeth and bernie sanders-- elizabeth sanders -- elizabeth warren and bernie sanders. guest: that makes a lot of sense. when we are looking at revenue raisers, they deserve a lot of credit for getting creative, looking at every nook and cranny where we can raise revenue without impacting middle-class families. this is a prime example of something that has been talked about for a long time. host: rory cooper? guest: i agree bernie sanders has a strong influence in the democratic party. -- i think that is why they are having trouble passing the agenda this week. democrats will have to deal politically -- this country is largely more centrist than bernie sanders gives it credit for and that is why they are going to have a hard time getting these trillions of dollars passed through the chambers. host: about 10 minutes left in our roundtable, this guy with a question for you mr. kober -- mr. cooper, " please name one proposal congressional republicans have raised that does something other than assure their own powe

look at bernie sanders. bernie sanders calls himself a democratic socialist. a democratic socialist. he's an old marxist. he's an old new york marxist who has a massive soap box. he's in charge of the budget committee. he's driving the finances in this country, and he's driving them into the ground. trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars on spending, and on what? to whose benefit? you already see the beginnings of inflation. once the inflation monster is out of the box, that's going to affect each and every one of us. why? because it devalues the currency. your income, your pension, your savings, and price of goods and services go up, so while the value of the dollar goes down, the price goes up, guess what happens? more people are impoverished, and what will the answer be from biden and his fellow democrats? more spending. more government. more centralization. and by the way, these policies come with what? they come with this, an iron fist, as they get stronger and stronger and stronger. did you hear the attorney general earlier this week? what did

here is bernie sanders. senate budget committee and the author of the reconciliation bill, senator bernie sanders of vermont. thank you so much for joining me. first, your colleague, joe manchin, just explicitly told me repeatedly he will not support your $3.5 trillion reconciliation bill. he wants to see something more in the ballpark of $1.5 trillion. is that acceptable to you? >> no. it is absolutely not acceptable to me. i don't think it's acceptable to the president, to the american people or to the overwhelming majority of the people in the democratic caucus. l look, we worked with senator manchin to pass the $1.9 trillion american rescue plan, which was enormously consequential and helpful to working class families in getting us out of the economic disaster that befell us as a result of covid. i believe we can all sit down and work together and come up with a $3.5 trillion reconciliation bill, which deals with the enormously unmet needs of working families. you know, we've got to lower the cost of pre

above $5 million -- is that something -- we talked about revenue raisers before elizabeth and bernie sanders elizabeth sanders -- elizabeth warren and bernie sanders. guest: that makes a lot of sense. when we are looking at revenue raisers, they deserve a lot of credit for getting creative, looking at every nook and cranny where we can raise revenue without impacting middle-class families. this is a prime example of something that has been talked about for a long time. host: rory cooper? guest: i agree bernie sanders has a strong influence in the democratic party. -- i think that is why they are having trouble passing the agenda this week. democrats will have to deal politically -- this country is largely more centrist than bernie sanders gives it credit for and that is why they are going to have a hard time getting these trillions of dollars passed through the chambers. host: about 10 minutes left in our roundtable, this guy with a question for you mr. kober -- mr. cooper, " please name one proposal congressional republicans have raised that does something other than assure their own power

this week bernie sanders who thinks 3.5 trillion is a bare minimum sought to increase the pressure onhe senate colleagues. >> it is not acceptable to me and i don't think it's acceptable to the president and the american people and the overwhelming majority people in the democratic caucus. >> i would at least guess 40 out of 50 understand that we need 6 trillion there is a significant price tag. >> joe manchin was asked what he thought of bernie sanders comment and he said god bless him is all i can say what can we expect with the massive spending bill can democrats in the margin and act the biggest change in the american social contract to more than 50 years let's ask our panel fox news contributor jason chaffetz and fox news contributor and obama administration state department spokesperson marie harf. thank you both for joining me. gerry: we have a $3.5 trillion plan joe manchin says it is too much, bernie sanders and aoc and others say this is the absolute minimum, how does this play out. >> this is democracy in action there is a very thin democratic majority and i imagine it will

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which bernie sanders admits he voted for. and lots of progressives like and democrats like and is very popular in the country because they believe that that would guarantee that they only get half a loaf. and they want the whole thing. the issue is that failure to get even part of the other package seems almost so irrational, given everything that's in it that as bernie sanders just pointed out, so important to the american people. it's hard to see how they just say, okay, fine, we're not going to do any of that because they promised they would. and because the public wants a lot of it. they want lower prescription drug costs. they want better health care. so it seems to me that, you know, the process is so difficult that it's hard to see from here to there at this point. but i can't imagine that the biden administration would just say, okay, fine. i just can't see that. >> you know, david, no one thought thelma and louise were actually going to drive over the cliff, but they actually did in the end of the movie. spoiler aler

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you've got the old -- this is not joe manchin versus bernie sanders. would surmise that over 40% of 90% of democrats, the 40 democrats in the senate would prefer what i propose which is $6 trillion because they understand the needs facing working families and climate are so great. so a major compromise has already been made, and there is a real danger, a real danger that this bill will lose in the house because you've got many people there, and i support them, who are saying, you know what? we had a joint agreement. we're going to go forward together. physical structure, and let's do it. let's create the jobs. let's deal with an expansion of medicare and deal with climate. that's what we've got to go. >> is no bill -- let's say senator manchin wouldn't put a timeline on it, but he's coming for the reconciliation bill. is no bill better than $1.5 trillion? >> look. what the issue is here is when you have an overwhelming majority of working families in america who want us to do that. when you've got the president and go to 90% of the people in the house,

based upon what bernie sanders said. bernie sanders is tweeting not to vote for it. yes, sir. reporter: why would republicans still vote for the infrastructure bill? mr. mccarthy: a different time and different place. i think it was a while back. it was the speaker who tied it together. it was the speaker who said she would hold it. it was speaker pelosi who said yesterday you cannot vote on infrastructure until they get the reconciliation and the language. it was the speaker who promised the moderates that they would be able to move forward to deem reconciliation going forward because they would have a vote last monday. we didn't have that vote. time and again. unfortunately we are not in the majority. i would promise you this. if we were in the majority, it would be different. we would have an infrastructure bill just only about infrastructure. i think america would like that. reporter: are you whipping an infrastructure vote, as pelosi is planning for today, and members who do vote for it, what would be the consequences, what's your rhetoric going to be like, what's your me

this is bernie sanders grandkids democrat party, right? this is bernie sanders democrat party. this is not my democrat party because aoc come bernie said his come the radical socialist, progressive wing of the democratic party controls of this democrat party. that's why you have this tug-of-war going on over the reconciliation bill and the infrastructure built and the cr, all of the other radical proposals they put on the floor are put on the four because the radical socialist wing of the democratic party controls the democrat party today. what i hear from my, many of my democrat colleagues who come from, there are no real, the democrats have stripped away all of the moderates, the last pro-life democrat was the guiding dance dan polansks taken up by the aoc socialist wing. they got rid of all of the so-called blue dogs or moderate or procomp any democrat who dare call himself pro-life, they had been defeated in primaries. that's the state of the democrat party. that's why they find themselves so out of touch with the reality of where most of the country is today, why do about

democrats in california, bernie sanders won the presidential primary in california.ut, you know, national electable nationally and that t republicans would be able to raise a tremendous amount of money running against him and would be able to win the house and the senate and defeat him for the presidency but they really like what he would have to say. it's the same thing with larry elder, the base likes hearing what he has to say, he's going to solve crime, reduce the cost of housing, make a difference in sacramento. it's easy for republicans to support that message. unfortately it doesn't translate that well to california's independent and democratic voters. that's something our base needs to realize and move forward with. what the democrats have done, joe biden was nobody's first choice in the primary but he came through and people understood that he was electable and won because of it. there was criticism for joe biden, he wasn't going to the california democratic party convention in san francisco during the primary. i actually said that was smart for him because

vermont senator bernie sanders is the chair of the senate budget committee.ins me now. all right, senator. i think we're all in this situation because of reconciliation and because of the way that you move things through. but let's just start with this. if i said to you, like, what is this bill, not what's the laundry list of things in it, but like conceptually, the democrats are going to pass an "x" bill. what is the "x"? >> the "x" bill is saying finally, for the first time in the modern history of this country, that the united states government is going to stand up and address the long, long neglected issues facing working people, and that we're going to fund it by demanding that the wealthiest people in this country and the largest corporations start paying their fair share of taxes. and the president and i think many of us in congress deserve credit because what we are doing is taking a hard look at the reality of life for working families. what's going on with the children? what's going on with the elderly? what's going on in health care? and very signi

pass the infrastructure thing and ignore bernie sanders. everybody is talking about the implosion in the republican party, you have the never drummers versus the trumpers and all of this infighting. there's some of that there. i don't think people -- the mainstream media does not appreciate just how much infighting there is in the democratic sort of caucus, i guess, the best way to put it. you have moderates and the lefties like sanders, aoc at each other's throats all the time. biden giving in to the lefties a lot, but now getting push back from joe manchin, senator sinema and other members of congress. you know, their majorities are almost nonexistent. in the senate, it's a 50/50 with kamala harris as a tiebreaker, this is really interested that the crack-up that is going object. you know, what i can't understand is this: you know, most republicans favor donald trump. so trump is -- i understand why that is -- why that is sort of popular within the republican party. what i can't understand is why -- is bernie sanders and aoc represent the

senator bernie sanders, himself a millionaire who owns 3 houses says no one should be worth $1 billion and would impose an 8% tax on the very very rich most of whom made their own fortunes, 70% of the forbes 400 are self-made men and women. no one is any poorer because of mega fortunes. enriching the rich by ms. a rating of the poor was public policy. ask louis the sixteenth, by giving everybody a better and cheaper way to shop made all of us richer. bernie sanders had his honeymoon in the soviet union, i have been to moscow, it is very gay, anyway on the first of may. these ideologues are insensibly ignorant of the most basic economics. not only with a wealth tax be hard and expensive to administer, it would have devastating effects on the entire american economy and population. jeff bezos had to pay 8% of his networking taxes every year he would have to sell 8% of his vast holdings of amazon stock, that would cause the price of amazon stock to drastically decline, the anticipation of the sale would cause it to decline, with 8% of net worth. but directly and indirectly, millions of mi

start with talking about what i was talking to bernie sanders about. is this mega spending bill, $3.5 trillion. he says he is sticking to his guns. where does it stand? amy: not with senator sanders, but with senator manchin. when you only have 50 votes in the senate, your ability to get something passed on a partyline vote rests with the one who is the most at risk. the most at risk senator's joe manchin, who has set out loud, multiple times, we are not doing 3.5 trillion dollars. the bigger challenge is, everything we talked about has been the price tag. we have talked very little about the policy. for democrats talking about selling this in the next election, right now what they are talking about, it is all kinds of different things within it. we heard sator sanders talk about making the rich pay their fair share, income inequality. but what is it tangible? -- tangibly? republicans have the opportunity for these next few weeks and probably the drought the campaign -- throughout the campaign in 2022 to define it by that number. this is just more mone

is bernie sanders about to blow it all up?e is saying keep that infrastructure bill hostage until they move on the big social spending. democrat infight something now off the rails. we'll give you the update. more on the hunter biden controversy. "politico" reporting a key fact. it is so glaringly obvious it pretty much proves that hunter biden's texted emails are real that he is selling access to his father. also now president obama, he is even contradicting the president, saying policy of quote open borders, unsustainable. border towns, they now face a new massive migrant caravan headed their way. more than half of the population of del rio, texas. that is a border town. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit," it starts right now. ♪ elizabeth: okay. let's get right at it with former undersecretary of defense, former va secretary, he is colonel robert wilkie. he is back with us. first, thank you for your service to our country. generals milley, austin, mckenzie, come nell they testified to senate armed services yes we re

we'll talk with vermont senator bernie sanders. plus an f.d.a. advisory panel overwhelming votes against widespread booster shots for adults, saying that the data is inconclusive. we'll talk with dr. francis collins about what happened. plus, we'll have a special conversation with former f.d.a. commissioner dr. scott gottlieb. his new book, "uncontrolled spread" takes a hard look at america's covid failures and offers some solutions. >> doctor: we cannot allow something like this to hit us this bad again. >> brennan: and we'll talk with scott kirby about how the travel industry is navigating the persistent pandemic event. plus a look at the fallout from the traffic mistakes last month in afghanistan. it is all ahead on "face the nation." ♪ ♪ >> brennan: good morning. and welcome to "face the nation." on the covid front, the news is still bleak. nearly 10,000 americans died last week of the virus. we now total more than 673,000 dead. children, who are still not eligible for vaccines, account for almost 29% of all cases. according to the aap, there

and so it's all going to come to a head very, very, very rapidly, and joe manchin and bernie sanders are going to have to work this out with joe biden. i absolutely agree joe biden is an inside player. he's going to be working with manchin and sanders. the thing that worries me most is voting rights. as you said, voting rights is a key. voting rights is not in the $3.5 trillion. it need as carveout from the filibuster, and that's going to be the biggest fight from the fall. >> a couple of things you said i want you to weigh in on. do you think because of this deadline, do you think they should be voting in tandem on infrastructure and reconciliation or separate? you're asking me? >> yes, robert. sorry. >> i think they have to vote in tandem. that's what she promised the progressives, and she said there would be a vote. she said to the so-called mod squad on the hill, there would be a vote by the 27th, but it's going to be at the same time as the vote on the $3.5 trillion. so she's got to somehow have enough of a bill in front of her to put them both before the house at exactly the sam

this is bernie sanders democratic party. bernie sanders, the progressive democratic party controls. all of the other radical proposals that they put on the floor because the radical socialist controls the party today. what i hear from many of my democratic colleagues that come from stripping away all of the moderates they had taken on a primary as socialists, so they've gotten rid of all of the so-called blue dogs, they are moderated and they've been defeatedli in primaries. so, that's the state of the democratic party. that's why they find themselves so out of touch with of the reality of where most of the country is today. if you know me, my starbucks card is holy to me. [laughter] i that my card before you today we will win back the majority and not by a little bit, but by a large 2010 margin in the house of representatives trying to destroy. >> thank you, congressman. it's good to see you. i have a question about the looming government shutdown. are there predictions that are hard to make or that you have for is it going to happen and how long will it last? >> i've been a member

bernie sanders not quite as personal but he did take to twitter and said no infrastructure bill without and a half truly dollar reconciliation bill so in terms of that bill, three and a half trillion, pretty much everything, childcare, expanded medicare, paid leave, climate change initiatives all in that the democrats have been talking about. they need moderates if they want this past. arizona senator kristin cinema voiced her own concerns last month and not joe manchin saying i'm out unless there are big changes made. lauren: he saying everybody needs applause right now. running the now thank you for coming on and i think the other question here, how do we pay for this? if you look at potentials like hiking taxes, that could have more effects than increase social safety net 3.5 trillion wish list create. >> thank you for having me on your exactly right, this will be the biggest historic tax increase on americans in the history of this country. middle-class american's will pay for this and children and grandchildren. it's unbelievable and we look at $68 trillion in spending over ten yea

this is bernie sanders grandkids democratic party. right? this is bernie sanders' democrat party. this is not my democratic party because aoc, bernie sanders, the radical socialists, progressive wing of the democratic party controls this democratic party. that's why they have this tug-of-war going on over the reconciliation bill and the fake infrastructure bill and the cr, all of the other radical proposals that they put on the floor are put on the floor because of the radical socialist wing of the democratic party controls the democratic party today. so what i hear from my, many of my democrat colleagues who come from-- there are no real-- the democrats have stripped away all of the moderates, the last pro-life democrat was a guy named dan lipinski in illinois, taken out by the aoc socialist wing. and they've gotten rid of the so-called blue dog democrats, and pro-life, and defeated in primary, that's the state of the democratic party and why they found themselves out of touch with the reality of where the most of the country is today and about to lose the majority. and i'll bet

we'll speak with senator bernie sanders, who's pushing the spending bill, later in the program. the federal budget deficit for this fiscal year topped $2.7 trillion through august, driven by "covid" relief spending. with one month to go, it's on track to be the second largest ever, behind last year's record of more than $3 trillion. u.s. capitol police have formally announced they'll put temporary fencing back up, ahead of a saturday rally. it's being organized to support trump backers who stormed the capitol on january 6th. more than 600 people are facing charges. on wall street, the dow jones industrial average gained 262 points to close at 34,869. the nasdaq fell 10 points. the s&p 500 added 10. and, george wein, founder of the newport jazz festival, died today at his home in new york. he launched the newport festival in 1954 and led it for more than 50 years. he later started the new orleans jazz festival, and his success sparked numerous other events, including "woodstock". george wein was 95 years old still to come on the newshour: senator bernie sanders on the divide amon

. -- elizabeth sanders -- elizabeth warren and bernie sanders.at makes a lot of sense. when we are looking at revenue raisers, they deserve a lot of credit for getting creative, looking at every nook and cranny where we can raise revenue without impacting middle-class families. this is a prime example of something that has been talked about for a long time. host: rory cooper? guest: i agree bernie sanders has a strong influence in the democratic party. -- i think that is why they are having trouble passing the agenda this week. democrats will have to deal politically -- this country is largely more centrist than bernie sanders gives it credit for and that is why they are going to have a hard time getting these trillions of dollars passed through the chambers. host: about 10 minutes left in our roundtable, this guy with a question for you mr. kober -- mr. cooper, " please name one proposal congressional republicans have raised that does something other than assure their own power and influence?" guest: pediatric cancer and research does not genera

bernie sanders said just months ago he wanted and the climate needs $6 trillion over ten years. so if we're looking for a 70% compromise as stephen king suggests we've already cleared that. $3.5 trillion is already less than 60% of what sanders and the left were asking for. but why are we talking about compromising at all? this rhetoric is reflective of the commentary across the entire political and media landscape. those on the left, progressives, are constantly told to be more realistic. just be pragmatic. maybe consider a compromise. but no one ever asks the conservatives, the centrists, the quote-unquote, moderates to compromise or back down. do they? this country desperately needs to tackle climate change. according to new research out this week the northeast of the u.s. is one of the fastest warming areas in the entire northern hemisphere. we've all seen the wildfires, the hurricanes, the devastation that global warming is causing in our own back yard. as for the economy, paid medical leave, child tax credits, universal pre-k. all of that is vitally important to the lives

moore back in cob 2019 throwing his support behind presidential candidate bernie sanders. like so many on the left, has since become a big promoter of the joe biden agenda. in a series of tweets, moore has lavished praise on the president for signing the american rescue plan, ending the war in afghanistan and bringing in a sweeping federal vaccine mandate. he's even gone so far as asking whether joe biden is our new fdr. how long will this love affair last? well, a big test of that will come this week when progressives and centrists face off on two of the president's most important priorities, the bipartisan infrastructure bill, and the $3.5 trillion reconciliation bill. for more on all of this i'm joined by the man himself michael moore, oscar winning film maker and host of the critically acclaimed "rumble with michael moore" podcast. michael, thanks so much for coming on the show tonight. >> thanks. >> you spent much of the 2020 campaign criticizing joe biden from the left as did i to be fair. have you been surprised biden has much more progressive and in line with the b

i mean, i always like to point out, no one who endorsed bernie sanders had was employed on the op ed pages of any of the 1200 newspapers in the united states. no newspaper in the united states ever endorse bernie sanders during any context whatsoever. yet over 30 percent of the american public loves him to death. so what does that say about the about how the media is representing its readership and yours? yeah. well ron, you know, because anything that and i have to be honest with you, bernie's been turning into more and more of a disappointment. but if we look at 2016 even 2020 in the primary kids. absolutely right. you know, which, let's ignore what 30 percent of the population actually thinks. okay. and if you don't report it, then it doesn't exist. isn't amazing how that works. go ahead. wrong. oh, absolutely. and then in both cases in 20162020. you know, and by the way, just i agree with you. bertie has been letting us out a lot of recent, but you know, pretty bad aside. i mean 20162020 m b c would show trump's empty podium instead of showing bernie sanders talking to arenas ful

he willing comrade bernie sanders, bull sha vehicle bernie honey mood in the former soviet union. caused by hurricane ida my republican colleagues will say combatting climate change is too expensive. and their allies in the media mob are saying pretty much the same. take a look. >> i just want to say, we are looking at the results of climate change. >> and, of course, add to that that this is all part of this, scientists tell us, climate change. >> we are going to hear a lot about climate change in the hours to come, and we should, because this i a climate change story. but in the short term it's also a story about trying to evacuate people in flood waters. >> sean: never thought i would see humity dumbity in the rape but there he is. here with reeks the cohost of the clay travis and buck sexton show outcast clay travis joins us from knoxville tennessee on the fox sports college fastball tour. welcome on board and welcome to the radio world as well, congratulations. let me ask you this. you hear what they're saying. we've had haines, flooding, gone on for, joe ba starredy can tell

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it implies that bernie sanders is not sexy on his own.ould be mad. >> i have cornered the market on the sexy halloween. that's hot. >> you came prepared. you did your research. >> i did. >> i love that. i really love this. my favorite segment. if this is sexy, i am all in it. now that i am older, fox we get our hair and makeup done. it's a dream come true. on the weekend i don't wear any makeup. i have my glasses on and up in it a bun. i don't have to wash my hair. i am in sweatpants. this is sexy and i can wear mittens and be warm in a coat, i am okay. >> not wearing peptase. >> [laughing]. >> greg: this is the worst costume and i include prince harry dressing up as a nazi. >> it would go down that badly. i am amused by halloween. we don't do it as much in my country of birth. every year at halloween a set of americans get cancelled for something they have worn. i think there are two options for america. either stay at home on halloween or just go for the nuclear option and have one year where you all go as the village people. >> greg: t