joining me now is independent senator bernie sanders of vermont.s." >> great to be with you. >> it's wonderful to have you back, senator. let me start with ukraine and that oval office meeting, the reaction continues to pour in, and you just heard me speak with house speaker mike johnson. he left the door open to the possibility that it may be necessary for president zelenskyy to resign in order to get to a broader peace agreement. let me ask you this qution, do you think that president zelenskyy needs to resign in order for there tobacco be a p deal. >> i think that is a horrific suggestion. zelenskyy is leading a country trying to defend democracy against an authoritarian dictator, putin, who invaded his country, and i think millions of americans are embarrassed, are ashamed that you have a president of the united states who says that ukraine started the war, that zelenskyy is a dictator. he's got it exactly backwards. the people of ukukrainhave lost tens of thousands of soldiers. their cities are being bombed as we speak, and our job is to defen

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and this is not just a bernie sanders phenomenon. this, for example, was the no special occasion regular organizing meeting last night for the indivisible chapter in collingswood, new jersey. they again had guessed that there might be an unusually large amount of interest, given everything that's going on. so they booked a hall that could hold a huge number of people for just a regular organizing meeting. on a wednesday night, they booked a hall that could hold 450 people, but they filled that 450 seat room, and then another 200 people showed up and could not get in, and they decided they would just meet in the parking lot instead. >> you might have also. >> seen recent headlines just over the past few days about how republican members of congress are being advised now to please stop holding town halls with their constituents because they aren't enjoying the national and local news coverage that those things are engendering. look at this out of midlothian, virginia. this gives you some sense of why republicans might not want to be an

but because they decided not to go with the passion of the party with bernie sanders, and to try to do swung the other way. >> judge jeanine: the democrat party is falling out of touch with most americans, and even people within the democrat party say they need to be more moderate. part of the problem is they don't allow open debate. there are certain issues that, if you are not in support of those issues, then you are an outcast. what are they going to do to open it up? >> jessica: i think it's not actually about being more moderate, it's about being more passionate. a lot of people have been talking about bernie sanders, whose policy platform is definitely to the left of where the majority of the party is, but he has a passion. he is on tour right now going around the country, pushing back against oligarchy. >> judge jeanine: there was a poll that said something like 48% of the democrats think they should be more moderate. >> jessica: i'm taking that and expanding it more largely to the conversation about what donald trump represented, which was being a fighter, and democrats are loo

senator bernie sanders, who says they're basically going to have to gut entitlements in order to get those programs. so he's not buying it. he's not buying the denials. and he argues that social security could be next. so a lot of fiery discussion coming up on the program, which really previews. there's going to be a showdown over that big house bill that just passed. and the other showdown, kira that's coming up is over. the government shutting down it poised to potentially shut down in about 12 days from now. the house speaker saying it's up to democrats to work with us to make sure that we have enough votes. he pushed back against the notion that, look, republicans control everything. he said, look, keeping the government open is a bipartisan responsibility. so we are, i think, in for a very dramatic next few weeks on capitol hill. feels like we've seen this movie before. always seeming to avert a shutdown. so we definitely look forward to how this unfolds. and christian you're already making headlines with your interview with speaker of the house mike johnson this morning, so we

frances, and we did see new reaction on nbc's "meet the press" over the weekend with senator bernie sanders calling musk's comments outrageous. while house speaker mike johnson defended doge. >> what he's finding with his algorithms crawling through the data of the social security system is enormous amounts of fraud, waste and abuse. >> it's worth noting the internal watchdog found less than 1% of benefit payments were improper. >> don't believe it. hey, don't believe it. >> half of elderly people are trying to get by on $30,000 a year. 22% on $15,000 a year. we've got to raise social security benefits, not go afteo important. >> reporter: and this comes as the social security administration just announced that it plans to let go of about 7,000 workers and close some regional offices. some democratic lawmakers plan to invite fired federal workers to be their guests tomorrow night when president trump addresses a joint session of congress. americans gathered at national parks this weekend to protest widespread job cuts. some federal workers got a new e-mail asking them what they did last wee

but because they decided to not go with the passion of the party with bernie sanders and to try to do something safe with joe biden, you ended up with the results that you got in the biden administration, and it swung everybody the other way. >> you know, jessica, the democratic party has fallen out of touch with most americans. and i think even people within the democrat party say they need to be more moderate. but part of the problem is that they don't they don't allow open debate. i mean, they you know, there are certain issues. if you're not in support of those issues, then you're an outcast. what are they going to do to kind of open it up? >> well, i think it's not actually about being more moderate. i think it's about being more passionate. and a lot of people have been talking about bernie sanders, whose policy platform is definitely to the left of where a majority of the party is. but he has the passion. he's on tour right now going around the country and his pushing back against oligarchy to. >> but he was there was a poll that said something like 48% of the democrats think t

press tomorrow morning, when kristin welker interviews house speaker mike johnson and senators bernie sanders langford. that's tomorrow morning. right here on nbc. also tonight former new york governor andrew cuomo says he now wants to be mayor of the city of new york. cuomo, a democrat, making it official in his announcement video today. he resigned as governor most four years ago after facing multiple allegations of sexual harassment. his campaign comes as the current mayor democrat eric adams is facing months of scandal after an indictment on corruption charges, which he pleaded not guilty to. the trump administration has moved to dismiss the charges but a judge has yet to rule. >>> to the vatican now, and a new update and possible improvement in pope francis's condition, and thompson is there for us tonight, what is the latest? >> the news is much better tonight, josi■ pope francis is stable after yesterday's bronchial spasm he's been alternating between the breathing mask and receiving high flow oxygen and the vatican says he's having a good response, on top of that, there have been no m

the democratic party and being technical and hoping they self-destruct and not enough focus as bernie sanderss on a concrete vision going forward and solving the massive inequality and going for many people who voted for president trump and not just angry and they were justifiably angry. brian: smug, go ahead. >> well, that's what happens when kamala harris runs the perfect campaign. there it is right there. not only did the media lie to the public and jake tapper saying that joe biden is perfect and does arithmetic and back flips in private and then tried telling the american people kamala harris, she's the perfect campaign, perfect candidate for the time and she'll win and they're stuck looking for answers and the answers that the american people are looking for were president trump and that's why he won. >> and president trump's media strategy of being a transparent administration and works for them and it's like catnip and going to through them off and deputies can't focus on one thing and accomplishing the agenda and keeping the promises he made on the campaign trail and they're three st

we are just being technical, hoping they self-destruct, buts isthere is not enough focus has bernie sanderson concrete mission going forward to solve the massive inequality and to understand that many people who voted for trump were not just angry, they were justifiably angry. >> brian: smog, go ahead. >> i guess that is what happens when kamala harris wins aer perfece.t campaign. maughter] there it is right there. not only did the media lied ton isthe public jake tapper includ, saying joe biden is perfect and as arithmetic camp back flips and private. then they told the american people kamala harris, she is ath perfect candidate for the time and she's going to win. now they are stuck looking for answers, the answer is thehe american people looking for were president trump and that is why he won. >> president trump's media strategy being a transparent ani niadministration works to his advantage and more importantly to the disadvantage of the democrats because it is likeatni catnip for these people. it throws them off message because the democrats can't focus on one thing. donald trump is ou

. >> think you, bernie sanders was asked whether democrats should have done more to cut government waste>> if you don't take food away from children healthcare away from struggling people to give tax breaks to billionaires. stuart: he always seems to attack the wealthy. joe concha gets into that, coffee shops in canada changing the name of the americano drink to canadian auto canadians seem united against america, what does my colleague kevin o'leary think about that. we'll be right back. >> the markets have even themselves out, we opened higher moved lower and now we have a mixed picture, the dow is up 20 points at the nasdaq is down 47, take a look at the chipmaker, the white house confirms taiwan semi conductor a 100 billion-dollar investment in america, the announcement is scheduled to come at 130 eastern time, we know $100 billion from taiwan semi into the united states. another big move into america with money. you're looking at some of the moves. there is the chipmaker what is with kroger john 1.6%. >> down today after the grocery store longtime ceo resigned from his post, the ann

per axios, senators bernie sanders, elizabeth warren, ed markey are some considering not going.hris murphy is reportedly also considering not attending telling axios with when president trump does a speech, it's not a serious event. carly, rachel and peter. -- charlie. peter: thanks, maddie. i think part of the reason nancy pelosi doesn't want anyone doing anything dramatic, two reasons. one, what if somebody comes up with something more iconic than ripping a piece of paper? it's possible. number two, the dem99 -- dems don't have the seat behind the president this year -- rachel:, oh, right. peter: it's going to be j.d. vance and mike johnson. so anything that they would be doing, any of these rank and file members, it would just come across as too small. charlie: i really love your profound if cynicism about her motives, and i think that -- to one has ever gone broke in washington, d.c. for a lack of cynicism. it is -- can you can't have too much cynicism. i think you're exactly right about it. but the problem with it is for her she doesn't want to be outdone. but the problem i

lawmakers who are leaning against or are undecided about a going include vermont senator bernie sanderssetts senator elizabeth warren and massachusetts if senator ed markey among others. if per "the washington post," former house speaker nancy pelosi who notably tore apart the president's state of the union address back in 020 the is now encouraging members to, quote, let the president stew in his own juice. pelosi, who's still widely respected within the democratic conference, reportedly wants democrats to focus on the republicans' budgets framework, that gop blueprint that would enact the president's agenda and also call for spending cuts which democrats argue would slash programs like medicaid. that, in pelosi's view, would be a much more effective way for democrats to respond rather than simply interrupting the president's speech. so we'll see. charlie, rachel and peter. rachel: thank you, maddie. peter: maddie, can we keep her just for one second, i just want to double check the quote, nancy pelosi wants donald trump to stew in his own juice? >> reporter: yeah. rachel: that's a quo

. >> raymond: all the information in the bernie sanders were all in the domain.ing around like they got wonka's golden tickets. a run down of alleged pedophiles. i don't know why they are smiling and waiving binders around. >> here is the thing you should do before wave it around. look at it. check it out first. >> read it first. >> laura: most of it was redacted. that was oversold. and we have an update on pope francis' health. it's incredible. his condition had worsened in the second week of hospitalization adofergd the vatican. i know you have worked and conferred with the vatican for almost three decades, raymond. have you interviewed so many popes. what's the latest? >> the pope is 88 years old. fighting double pneumonia. >> breathing crisis. is he now on noninvasive ventilators, condition is precarious. they have been having nightly public roseries in st. peters square for the pope's help. that really hasn't happened since the last days of john paul the ii he only has a lung and a half. >> laura: 88 years old, amazing, given his condition 15 years ago. raym

shocking to to find out that the state that keeps sending us bernie sanders decided to turn out in supportst j.d. vance, because of the showdown in the white house yesterday. rachel: peter, what bugs me about this it's, like, if he was should be off limits. hunter biden sold out the country. there was a reason to talk about him. these kids are, like, 4 and 2. why are they bothering this man on his ski vacation? charlie: you know what we should do? i think we should go down the line, have an intrepid reporter and ask a pop quiz and get every single one of them to the identify ukraine on a map. [laughter] i mean, babe they all know it, and i'd be very impressed. that would make me very happy that all those school children, all those people knew where ukraine was. peter: interesting. this actually does surprise me because the local reports say there were between 1,000-3,000 people there are only so many saturdays left in the season, and it looks like the know when you play the video, the snow if doesn't look great. maybe, maybe the runs are just too slicked over, or you can already see the di

much more on "meet the press," when kristen is joined by house speaker mike johnson, along with bernie sandersnd james lankford. and nbc news will have complete coverage of president trump's address to a joint session of congress on tuesday night. that beginning at 9:00 p.m. eastern right here on nbc and streaming on news now. >>> this morning, israel is blocking aid into gaza and saying it will not resume if hamas does not accept its proposal to extend the current cease-fire. negotiations between what comes next between the two sides has stalled in the last few weeks. israel warning hamas there will be additional consequences if the militant group refuses to work out a new deal to extend the cease-fire. >>> hopeful news from the vatican this morning where officials say pope francis had a peaceful night. the pope suffered a health setback on friday when he had trouble breathing and had to be put a vent lilator. he has improved but the vatican reports his prognosis remains guarded. in the angelless prayer, that he wrote in the hospital, he thanked the faithful for their prayers. >>> former new

host: senator bernie sanders on "meet the press," yesterday.lso james lankford giving his view about the implications of what is happening today in ukraine, what it means for the united states in the world going forward. james lankford, republican of oklahoma. >> are you concerned that what happened in the oval office, the fact that the united states sided with russia and north korea in that u.n. vote? the fact that president trump accuse zelenskyy of starting this war. could that be sending a signal to china that is a green light to invade taiwan? mr. lankford: if china receives that, they are receiving the wrong message. we want to see peace in that region and continue to have relationships all across that region. china should not miss read this at all. what president trump is trying to do is get both sides to the table. this is the interesting challenge that has not been done through this entire war the last three years trying to get both sides to figure out how to get a stop to the fighting and keep the fighting stopped. that is the next ch