tonight a conversation with the legendary founder of motown records, the chairman berry gordy on the dvd release of one of the great television specials of all time. "motown 25, yesterday, today forever." he'll be yoined by emmy winning television producer suzanne de passe who was at the label almost from the beginning and became president of motown. lady sings the blues and lonesome dove. glad you've joined us. a conversation with berry gordon and suzanne de passe in a moment. ♪ >>> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >>> the impact of motown on this country's cultural heritage cannot be overstated. a new dvd release celebrates one of the musical specials motown 25, yesterday, today and forever which highlights amazing performers. joining me the founder berry gordy and suzanne de passe who took it into new ground winning along the ways, emmys and pea dd beaus and an oscar nomination. a look at a clip from "motown 25." ♪ i wish those days could come back once more ♪ ♪ if there's a smile on my face ♪ ♪ it's only there trying to fool in public ♪ ♪