so -- >> you mentioned berry gordy, the chairman of here a few weeks ago, talking about the motown 25pective and suzanne's perspective. how did you feel being on that stage that night celebrating that major anniversary? now i don't dvd. on blu-ray, you all have good stuff. that it mayor bloomberg a big night for you since you were there from the beginning. >> it was one of the most spock lar nights of my life. it was profound -- spectacular nights of my life. it was profound. i've got the video that we're releasing on that. and in fact, otis williams of the temptations and duke faker of the four tops who were the only original guys left in those groups, and i did the commentary for the particular release of that dvd. >> yeah. >> but it was electric. it was just incredible night. and for people to come back -- i tell barry this all the time because he's my best friend. i tell him, he was disheartened by a lot of people because he left, and they felt -- he felt he wasn't appreciated and so on and so forth. i told him, all those people respect you. they respect you and love you enough to