the rockie mountain west has a lib bert tearan -- libertarian, and some are surprised not seeing the montana pushing back. what are the lines being drown here and is it one about different ideologies on the court or purely a matter of following the money to understand these divisions? >> on the supreme court? >> on the supreme court, but also trickling into the state elections. in other words, when you see this as -- the montana supreme court having put a fairly forceful and direct pushback to toe the supreme court on that, why do you see that coming from a state like montana as opposed to something that might be a more traditionally liberal state. >> well, that's complicated, and i'm probably getting way out of my pay grade here. but when i started practicing law in montana, montana was a progressive state. as -- in 1994, or '93, wherever the gingrich revolution took place, montana started going more and more in that direction, and although montana is typically composed of blue collar workers, farmers, ranchers, that sort of thing, that group of people have followed, i think, the tr