. >> berthoud u.n. mcdade democratic society where public's officials are supposed to be held to accountability without any kind of knowledge? >> guest: i think what we have seen out of the scenario in particular is that the fed should not be when sort of an isolated private secretive organization. if it is going to be involved in huge raising of public funds in order to subsidize a private industry it needs to publicly disclose what it is doing. it is bizarre that so much conversation is given over $28 million additions to help anything. >> host: it is almost like a shell game. there are great things literally on the floor of the senate that those on the hour after hour after hour and then you have trillions of dollars being left out here with no discussion whatsoever. lescallet one point the amount of money the fed have on offer is a trillion dollars. $6 trillion worth of open possibility. there is an open possibility of $6 trillion worth of money. it is staggering, the new debate over the stimulus package o