[laughter] so there's bertrand russell. and here's milicent fenwig, 82. this is my favorite, this is a wonderful british physiologist, wrote a wonderful book. you probably can't see it there, but he's got a cigarette, so he survived to 59. and those of you -- 95. and those of you who prefer other contributions to society -- [laughter] may recognize this gentleman who's now 70. but the early question, is it tobacco? [laughter] we don't really know. all right. well, moving along here, what about rights? this is not really a core thing of my talk, but these are the sort of rights that people talk about. the right of nonsmokers not to be exposed to unpleasant but probably not dangerous tobacco smoke allows a prorye to have to -- prorye to have to -- [inaudible] well, given what i've argued which is that passive smoke is not proven to be dangerous at all, these things surely should be decided through the political process. they're not really health related issues. but the argument is totally skewed but misinformation about -- by misinformation about the risks.