innocent people get shot and they get killed we saw that recently we saw the mayor of the town of berwyn heights here locally his home was raided in a mistaken raid i mean these this is serious stuff but the cops themselves will tell. you anytime you bring out a gun and you bring a bunch of people with guns around it's a serious business that's that's a dangerous situation and you mention that it was always like this that you know back decades ago there would be a knock on the door there wouldn't be this kind of a raid what you really pinpoint as being the tipping point that allowed for this expansion because i know one of the factors in expansion in swat teams many analysts one point two is that the department of defense began giving extra weapons extra military equipment to local police departments all over the country so i'm curious what you know one element you think is really responsible for this expansion i see that as one major component i would mark that is one major event on this timeline the memorandum of understanding that was struck between the department of defense and the d