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howard dean, and historian, michael beschloss. governor, dr. of the things you and i discussed repeatedly but for good reason is governor desantis in florida. it is late august. people are busy, getting many different stories. one of the things people may or may not have caught was rebuke he got by a judge over the mask battle in the schools. florida increasingly looks like the example of what not to do. the hospitalization and death rates in the past moving average of the past week are the worst anytime in the crisis. turning to you as both someone that practiced medicine, made health policy calls as governor, what is it important for americans to understand going forward about what we can learn from different places when it seems like covid is not going away. >> first of all, certainly isn't. delta looks more problematic every day because it is so contagious and because of the enormous number of nobody under 12 vaccinated, major, going to be a major problem opening schools and already is. we've already had to close a school partially in vermo

brian williams, michael beschloss, melody barnes, welcome and thank you so much for being here. now of course we want to play some of these types get your reactions to them. but let's talk a moment about what these are and why they were made they have come to light over the year. and michael, i think your experience with the case back at least in the 1990s if not further back pretty can you talk a little bit about how you first discovered the tape and little bit about how they came to light over the years that followed. michael: yes, i was having dinner with my friends and i always say, with joe dimaggio of presidential library directors i think markey would agree with that read and this was about 1993 or 1994 as having dinner with him and the jockey club in washington. and the owner date longer time aid in public service in other ways. caribbean talking to me about these types they said know they existed and i said, i had heard that he had made some of those conversations but how many could be actually taped. and harry said, will over 700 hours and they go from the beginning of

miss beschloss, thank you so much for joining us today. you know back to the 1950's the iran, pakistan, india gas pipeline. you have lived it at the khyber pass in west pakistan. the romance of the british, great gain and all that other malarkey. is china going to come in and take over the vacuum of the iran-pakistan-india pipeline as the u.s. exits? afsanch: you always go straight to the point of the matter. it is really interesting that you said i studied natural gas pipelines going through all the way in asia, but also in europe. no question that politics is always more important than the physical aspect of this thing. china is seeing a void. we saw the russians lose in afghanistan. we saw u.s. pulling out as we speak. and no question that the chinese are seeing big boys. and they will take advantage because they will need a lot of energy to continue their growth. an that's part of their solution. tom: our corked memory here is cobalt in africa. how chinese came in and worked out long-term contracts on obscure minerals. how will they wo

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eamon javers reporting >>> michael beschloss. good to see you as always. >> good to see you, tyler. how are you? >> fantastic this war has spanned four presidents let's listen back to what president biden said when he wasn't president in 2002 about the need to support the efforts in afghanistan. >> history is going to judge us very harshly, i believe, if we allow the hope of a liberated afghanistan to evaporate because we are fearfulof the phrase nation building or we do not stay the course. >> michael, i guess you could listen to that and say one of two things on the one hand, maybe the president must now eat those words. on the other hand, i think you can make the case that in 20 years we truly did stay the course in afghanistan, we fought we tried to build a nation for the people of afghanistan and today we must acknowledge that we failed. >> i think that's it, tyler. you know, it was a noble effort. you know, america, most of it was in our best traditions of trying to bring democracy to another country, but sometimes the other country doesn't want it and we did this for 20 years

michael beschloss, thank you for your time and analysis tonight.it. >> a pleasure always. be well. >> you too. >>> in 2001 the vote to authorize military force in afghanistan happened a mere three days after the 9/11 happened after three days. there was one dissenting voice, congresswoman barbara lee. she joins me next. >> however difficult this vote may be, some of us must urge the use of restraint. our country is in a state of mourning. some of us must say, let's step back for a moment, let's just pause just for a minute, and think through the implications of our actions today so that this does not spiral out of control. of control. people on medicare... made a choice... to take charge of their health care. with an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan from unitedhealthcare. medicare supplement plans help pay the out-of-pocket expenses medicare doesn't... giving you greater peace of mind. you could also see any doctor, any specialist, anywhere in the u.s. who accepts medicare patients. call today for your free decision guide. ♪ look at you! get

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me now is former democratic congresswoman donna edwards and msnbc political analyst, and michael beschlossesidential historian and author of "presidents of war." thank you for being here this morning. michael, let me start with you and ask how do these foreign policy crises end up impacting the trajectory of a presidency? >> well, there is an interesting story from history and, by the way, love "the sunday show." you're doing great, jonathan. thanks for having donna and myself. >> thank you. >> i'll speak for both of us. in history, foreign policy tends to effect presidents less and less unless it's something overwhelming like a war in which we are directly involved or a terrorist episode. for instance, jimmy carter in 1978, 1979 was making peace in the middle east, great accomplishment, didn't really help him very much. and at the same time, john kennedy in the spring of 1961 tried to invade cuba with freedom fighters failed. they were imprisoned and kennedy took responsibility. his numbers went up to 81%. he said it looks like the worse i do, the more popular i get. that's not true these

and michael beschloss, thank you as well. >> it was great having you guys here. than 1% of fully vaccinated people have experienced a breakthrough infection. we'll dig into that new data. >>> plus, for months there have been mixed messages about the vaccine for pregnant women. now a surge of pregnant patients with coronavirus is fueling calls for vaccinations. we're back in two minutes. minut. from prom dresses to workouts and new adventures you hope the more you give the less they'll miss. but even if your teen was vaccinated against meningitis in the past they may be missing vaccination for meningitis b. although uncommon, up to 1 in 5 survivors of meningitis will have long term consequences. now as you're thinking about all the vaccines your teen might need make sure you ask your doctor if your teen is missing meningitis b vaccination. vo: the climate crisis is here. berardelli: these temperatures are almost unbelievable even for a meteorologist. vo: and the solution is here too: clean energy. like wind turbines and solar panels. now, congress has to invest in

. >> we are joined by halene cooper and michael beschloss. what's your understanding of the state on the ground there and what are you hearing from the pentagon today? >> good evening, ari, thank you for having me. they have still evacuating. lights are still going up in the middle, for instance, today in afghanistan at 1:00 in the afternoon, one of the flights that went out was the flight carrying the coffins of those marines and troops who were killed in that attack yesterday. the pentagon insists and that service members on the ground continuing this mission as long as they can. they say they're going to continue to evacuate people right up until the very end on tuesday august 31st. so that is going on. you do have more of -- you do have a credible threat that's being cited. this is very similar to what we saw happened on wednesday when the state department said that notices they had a credible threat and you saw what happened on thursday so people are very much on their guard. i think in relating to what president biden said we'll go afte

we are joined by michael beschloss and howard dean. he also wrote in the liberal "the nation" magazine, given that, i turn to you first, governor, your thought on what you and i discussing and what she flagged and what seems to be between some of the people who really shaped our foreign policies and where the public is as they look at what president biden did making this hard call. >> maybe including the three of us and everything else you quoted including david, we are all apart of inside the bubble. >> me too. >> i always say washington is middle school on steroids. this is the kind of talk that gets people tired of reading "the new york times." this will be a non issue in five or six months. i call for getting out of afghanistan. i support george bush when he went to afghanistan because i thought we needed to get after osama bin laden and a group that was hired sheltering terrorists. we botched this war right from the bush administration through the biden administration, we made deals with corrupt war lords and politicians. we pick