i think if we knew 5 million on the training and 2 million to bessie carmichael, we could give people something concrete to react to. >> okay. commissioner richards? >> so i guess one last thought. we all talked about, you know, the residential, the housing component, and one thing i think none of us mentioned, to the best of my knowledge is the arts and pdr. so my question is over the current amount of parcels, we have a certain amount of pdr and arts used, do we know what that is? >> sure, in the area currently zoned area and sli, there's 37,000 square feet. >> do we know what the breakdown of vacancy of art versus pdr. >> the vacancy rate is extremely low for pdr, and for arts, within those areas, a couple years ago there was only one arts locatioorganization, not sure they're still at that location. we could maybe talk to john because he's in charge of mapping that stuff. >> and then, we're going to go from 900,000 feet. >> yeah, we're going to keep that same. there's no loss of pdr. >> it comes down to a loss of pdr. what are we talking about affordable pdr space, affordable art