beth rigby said, we know what no plans mean.s that? james cleverly was talking about that. it is a fiscal drag. because the tax bands are not rising with inflation and that brings many more people into the higher tax bands are not due to change until 2028, that is how the tax burden goes up. finally, really interesting, what did they not say? rishi sunak talked about nothing else at the debate last week other than what he claimed was a £2000 tax rise under labour, no mention of that. you talked about that claim from rachel reeves that the conservative manifesto will lead to a £4800 rise in mortgage rates. didn't hear back from keir starmer. philip collins and salma shah are here. who won, in your view? given that rishi sunak said needed something remarkable happened with up to say that keir starmer won the debate because even if there was a draw, keir starmer was winning. because even if there was a draw, keir starmerwas winning. on because even if there was a draw, keir starmer was winning. on the balance of it keir starmer giv

we were in guernsey where rishi sunak and keir starmer are being quizzed by beth rigby, this evening'sive show that started at 7pm. so let's speak to our political correspondent hannah miller who is inside the spin room for us, where journalists and politicians will be dissecting the leader's performances. hannah, isn't quite a debate, it's a different format so what can we expect?— what can we expect? quite an interesting — what can we expect? quite an interesting format, _ what can we expect? quite an interesting format, actually, i what can we expect? quite an - interesting format, actually, here this evening. both leaders will face a 20 minute interview with political editor beth rigby, that will be alive. after that they will have a 25 minute grilling by a studio audience, that has been made out to be politically representative of the whole country, it's got people from grimsley on the local area as well as some people who live around the country. —— from grimsby. whether they get into more policy, whether they get into more difficult areas with a challenge particularly by the aud

and then the very uncomfortable skewering of keir starmer by beth rigby of sky over the man who apparentlycorbyn. "oh, i love jeremy corbyn so long as he can't win!" so for me, that's abject politics. i understand that we're in a cost of living crisis, and i know we're going to talk about the manifestos, but i would like to say, adam, in answer to you — i know you want me to answer your question — halfway through, it's primary colours. you can smell what's happening here and you've got the british public in tardis time and they're looking in the whites of the eyes of these people, and it feels an absolutely seismic election. adam? yeah, every election, for me, i slightly worry that have politicians and the political parties got so good at analysing data, so focused on micro—targeting people on facebook, so safe when it comes to doing debates, so coached when it comes to doing interviews with people like nick robinson that, actually, politicsjust sort of gets a bit dull. but, actually, every election, events happen and people's scripts, they can't stick to them. and also the other thing tha

was asking rishi sunak. robot, and then beth rigby was asking rishi sunak . she says, how do you get people to like you again? what do you think of both of their answers to those questions? >> well, i mean, look, in terms of sir keir starmer, you're absolutely right. you know, audience members said that he came across sort of robotic and didn't answer the question. and to which he sort of stalled and, you know, became the robot exactly as sort of what the audience member was, was attacking him for. so i think you've got to be able to be authentic. and i think this is where the public were getting frustrated, you know, hearing about rishi sunaks parents being in the nhs. and, you know, sir keir starmer's father was a toolmaker and wife works in a london nhs hospital. in case you hadnt london nhs hospital. in case you hadn't heard. you know, he repeated that. but people aren't interested about that, actually, they're interested in those individuals . what do they stand individuals. what do they stand for? you know, they're both very wealthy people. so let's jus

and we saw a sort of little flicker of that with keir starmer when beth rigby said, "you're really boring't you"? and he went, "0h, thanks". um, and i was quite surprised neither of them had something to, like, cheer everyone up or like, make light of that. we have seen starmer deploy that line, "well, look, we tried exciting with borisjohnson and look, like, look how that worked out. "you know, boring maybe isn't such a problem when we've been through such a tumultuous time", but i was surprised he didn't deploy that again last night. isn't the truth that neither of them is a particularly brilliant political campaigner? i mean, if you compare to tony blair or boris johnson, whatever his flaws, that was a great political strength as a communicator or even actually nigel farage, whatever you make of his message. i mean, today he was in a room full of a thousand people, and he was often getting them to laugh out loud. and i mean, rishi sunak and keir starmer are not brilliant campaigning politicians. that's not their strength. one of the things people have been talking about a lot on social

beth rigby for sky and michelle hussain for the bbc.like, you know, as you say, we shouldn't take for granted the fact that we do have the chance to really scrutinise our leaders. i think that, you know, it would be wonderful if they were slightly more honest about some of their plans. but, you know, they are putting themselves up. and i actually think in a lot of ways, and it's maybe a different podcast, i think a lot of us are getting this election completely wrong. everyone�*s obsessed about the future majority. it might be. i think we're living through an era where we could be facing something like the twilight of liberal democracy. and so in that context — if you look around the world and what's happening — to have leaders who are willing to chat to the sun's youtube channel one day, the today programme the next, and do paul brand on itv the day after, its wonderful. newscast from the bbc. so that was the shortened version of what we recorded here in the studio. if you would like to hear the extended version, then you can hear it i

then there was tonight, rishi sunak, keir starmer and presenter beth rigby.ht in grimsby, keir starmer and rishi sunak, each facing an interview, each facing questions from the studio audience. first up, the labour leader. you said, i do think— jeremy corbyn would make a great prime minister. jeremy corbyn. did you mean that? i was certain we would lose the 2019 election. that's not my question. i was certain that we would lose it. i did campaign for labour, of course i did, i will openly say i campaigned for labour, i wanted good colleagues to be returned. returned into the labour party. and i wanted a party that was capable of being changed so we could face the future. did you not mean it when you said it? l i was certain we would lose. he promised labour would not put up income tax rates, national insurance or vat but was less clear on fuel duty and council tax. but sir keir claimed his approach to tax was different from his predecessor's. i accept previous labour leaders have pulled the tax leave everything a timer driven up spending. i want to grow our e

both by beth rigby and indeed the voters. some really difficult moments for both of them, and particularly, i think, on trust questions of trust. but let's talk now to mark spencer, farming minister, mark, thanks so much for talking to us. and i'm not going to ask you who won that because obviously you're going to say the prime minister, but i'm going to ask you, you are in need of something dramatic to shift the polls. was that a game changing moment? >> well, i think it was a clear contrast, actually, when you looked at what keir starmer and how shift he looked, how he wouldn't answer any questions, he didn't seem to, he was very good at outlining the challenges, but never very good at giving a solution to those challenges . and in contrast to challenges. and in contrast to the prime minister, actually, who hit these challenges head on, who really did sort of set out his plan for delivering for the future and making sure that working people get tax cuts . you working people get tax cuts. you nofice working people get tax cut

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both by beth rigby and indeed the voters. both of them, and particularly, i think, on trust questions of trust. but let's talk now to mark spencer, farming minister, mark, thanks

to disarm auburn and make the crowd laughed, and we saw a flicker of that with keir starmer when beth rigbyd anything to cheer everything up or make light of that. taste to cheer everything up or make light of that. ~ . of that. we tried exciting with boris johnson _ of that. we tried exciting with boris johnson and _ of that. we tried exciting with boris johnson and look - of that. we tried exciting with boris johnson and look how i of that. we tried exciting with i boris johnson and look how that borisjohnson and look how that worked out. boring maybe isn't such a problem when we've been through such a tumultuous time, i was surprised he didn't deploy that again last time.— again last time. neither was a particularly — again last time. neither was a particularly brilliant _ again last time. neither was a particularly brilliant political i particularly brilliant political campaign _ particularly brilliant political campaign or— particularly brilliant political campaign or if— particularly brilliant political campaign or if you - particularly brilliant political campaign or if you compare|

, where interview with beth rigby, where she went straight in on, you know, corbyn was once your beste back in for prime minister at the same time. you didn't believe him. why should anyone believe a word you say? it was a very good interview, i thought personally, but i do think getting too personal in politics, it becomes more childish. and as a voter, i don't want them actually getting too personal. >> but it's difficult for the conservatives to criticise his their sort of manifesto spending. when the ifs came out after the tory manifesto and said i'm sorry, but this is implausible, how on earth are you going to fund £17 billion in tax cuts when we haven't really got significant growth, so it's again , as you guys have been again, as you guys have been saying this morning, do you believe any of it? not at this point of it, the important thing that the labour could win votes on more votes than they're going to get in any case, is the fiscal drag where the income tax levels have been frozen , and levels have been frozen, and that's dragged more people, including pensioners, into payi

he told their political editor, beth rigby, that they have no interest in the truth for them.e added they're awful. they are ghastly. well, reform uk held a rally today at the birmingham nec, where one of their key supporters, former conservative government minister ann widdecombe, made quite the splash. >> over the next four days, freedom , common sense , freedom, common sense, determination, pride in our country. >> that's what reform is and that's why we deserve to fill up westminster . westminster. >> well, that was vintage ann widdecombe and she joins me now and lovely to see you. how was the atmosphere in the hall today in birmingham? >> it was terrific . >> it was terrific. >> it was terrific. >> there was an excitement there. people feel they're part of something which is really making an impact already, but is going to make an even bigger impact, and, we also had our fun. we had some fireworks, but, yeah, people are very, very optimistic and i would say inspired . inspired. >> what does a successful election look like for reform in just four days time ? just four days

where rishi sunak and sir keir starmer are preparing to be quizzed by sky news political editor beth rigbyrs or be quizzed on some of the more challenging areas of the things that they want to say and in that sense, very much it will perhaps have a different tone to some of these events that we've seen before. hand events that we've seen before. and we've seen — events that we've seen before. and we've seen in _ events that we've seen before. and we've seen in recent weeks that immediately after the show you obviously get both teams then putting their spin on it, both sides claiming they've done their best. will get more on that tonight and do we have any more information from the polling companies on how these events actually shift the dial on how people vote? the events actually shift the dial on how people vote?— how people vote? the kind of messages _ how people vote? the kind of messages that _ how people vote? the kind of messages that come - how people vote? the kind of - messages that come through from how people vote? the kind of _ messages that come through from them over the fol

thank you chris beth, thank you beth rigby, sky news, keir starmer this is a 132 page document . documenten't already announced. there's no new retail offer for voters. rishi sunak threw the kitchen sink at his manifesto. you won't even take the safety catch off yours. is this a captain caution manifesto designed to protect your poll lead? thank you. >> no . it is a serious plan for >> no. it is a serious plan for the future of our country and every single policy in this document. policy after policy after policy , has been carefully after policy, has been carefully thought through and tested to ensure that we can deliver it. i am not going to do what rishi sunak did, which is to offer things that he can't deliver because they're unfunded. people have had too much of that. they're fed up with that. this is a serious plan, carefully thought through. it's not about rabbits out of the hat. it's not about pantomime. we've had that . about pantomime. we've had that. i'm running as a prime minister candidate to run the circus. thank you very much . thank you very much. robert itv. >> robert. si

i think beth rigby, hit the nail on the head when she said.e, you know, they've talked very clearly about taxes. they're not going to increase, but there's been no mention of the taxes. they are going to increase. you know , we going to increase. you know, we all know we're bankrupt. we all know that whoever's in charge is going to have to raise taxes. so where is that money going to have to come from , so it was have to come from, so it was very light on detail and huge policy areas, and absolutely no mention of that will have huge ramifications for the future of the country. you know, things like net zero, brexit, immigration and freedom of speech , gender, self id, you speech, gender, self id, you know, where's all the detail on these things ? these things? >> i know it's an interesting perspective. some people might say that the conservative moves have also been a little bit light on the detail in their , light on the detail in their, plans, unless we're to believe that there'll be £25 billion of cuts to departments, which i'm sure some pe

he told beth rigby he paid privately for his teeth . i suppose teeth are on teeth.t. but maybe it maybe that's the truth. listen, thank you so much. keep your thoughts coming . your thoughts coming. gbnews.com/yoursay coming up. my monologue, i am discussing the trooping of the colour, and i'll be joined by lizzie cundy and bill rammell. this is gb news, britain's election channel. do not go anywhere . not go anywhere. >> looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers sponsors of up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. hello and welcome to your gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. well, it's been an unsettled weekend. plenty of rain and showers, even some thunder at times in the north. and it's all because of this area of low pressure which we currently have swirling across the uk, which is sticking with us through sunday and also saturday. now through into the evening, we'll continue to see plenty of scattered showers , plenty of scattered showers, these heavy and thundery at times across the north and southern parts of scotland, but m