so has beth seidenberg another partner at kleiner perkins. the bigger question is, was there a system in place in kleiner where women were judged differently than men. >> one of the takeaways, kleiner didn't handle some of the harassment issues well. that doesn't seem to be in much dispute. >> yeah. >> had some issues with harassment as did ellen pao. i mean what is the takeaway for the venture capital industry in silicon valley after this very embarrassing case for pretty much everybody end vofld? >> remember this is a gender discrimination case and a retaliation case not a harassment. that's hanging over this whole thing is this one particular partner who behaved badly. i think that it's an interesting question. they don't handle it well. there are partnerships and partnerships are not always known for, you know -- it's not a company, you know, which has much clear hr policies in place. they didn't react as well. they didn't have an hr person. there's all sorts of questions where the policies were and who had them and the confusion around i