>> i just want to point out to our viewers that brett kavanagh's attorney, beth wilkinson is going to be joining us here on the set in a few minutes, we're going to get her reaction, speaking on behalf of her client, judge kavanagh. but i know you're getting some additional reaction from mark judge, this friend, this woman alleges was deeply involved with brett kavanagh at the time they were still in high school. what does she say about mark judge? >> she says in her declaration to the judiciary committee that they were joined at the hip. and she mentions in conjunction with brett kavanagh, accusing them both multiple times of many different things. there are a couple of other far more egregious and extreme details that she put in there that cnn is currently trying to vet. she says there are two other people that can corroborate her story, but mark judge himself has absolutely denied these allegations out right, as have mr. kavanagh, we're in a situation now where we're looking into some of these details. there is certainly more to come. a lot of talk about mr. kavanagh being a, quote

but i guess the question that beth wilkinson, kavanaugh's attorney, is asking, why don't you and yourent go to the police, presumably montgomery county police or d.c. police? >> well, we are certainly considering that, jake, as of this moment. but look, this is a distraction by counsel for mr. kavanaugh. let me ask you this question. we've offered to have my client take a polygraph examination. why won't brett kavanaugh take a polygraph examination? why won't brett kavanaugh allow his close friend, mark judge, who is very knowledgeable about what happened, very knowledgeable about these allegations, why are they hiding mark judge from the american people and the senate judiciary committee? why won't they bring him in to testify truthfully? we want -- look, jake, i want to be really clear about something. we want all of this aired and we want it aired publicly. and we want the american people to be able to decide who is lying and who is telling the truth. this should not be decided by a bunch of white privileged guys that are basically shaming sexual abuse victims. >> so you're willing

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i do think the general position that beth wilkinson took was better both legally and politically than the one brett kavanaugh took. but, you know, this is really much more a political issue than a legal issue. >> it was different. she thought i was crazy for asking does he remember anything because that's the standard he set in this interview. again, maybe it won't matter tomorrow, dana, when these two witnesses and only two witnesses are questioned by a seasoned sex crimes prosecutor from arizona. rachel will speak on behalf of all the republicans and the only person to speak on behalf of the republicans. people suggested about optics. they wanted a woman doing it, instead of the 11 men. why shouldn't the democrats get a lawyer? >> maybe. maybe they should. you know, there are women who are on the democratic side that doesn't exist on the republican side. there's never been a female senator, a gop senator who is not a man on that committee. but, look, it is of course 100% about the optics. the republicans are completely transparent about that, that they cannot be seen having a panel

. >> laura: i like beth wilkinson, kavanaugh's attorney. she was on "special report." i would've liked to have seen her ask those questions. both of you, thanks so much. we are less than 12 hours away from tomorrow's monumental senate hearing. raymond arroyo is here next to tell us how style performance may play a larger role for somep than actual substance and how hollywood is jumping in on the act. "seen and unseen" is next. give us the frontiers. the places where success is measured in pushed limits. give us the middle of nowhere. where the only map is your buddies' tread marks. this life? no one's born ready for it. ( ♪ ) ( ♪ ) >> laura: it's time for our "seen and unseen" segment where we explore some of the big cultural stories of the day. culture meets politics. but what does brett kavanaugh have to accomplish at tomorrow's hearing, and how might style mean more than anything he actually says? joining us now with more is raymond arroyo, fox news contributor, best seller of the "will wilder" series. >> this is not your traditional hearing, not an evidentiary tria

kavanaugh's lawyer beth wilkinson. >> he's outraged as you might imagine by this most recent allegation. he has never met this woman. he doesn't know ms. swetnick. he didn't go to parties with her. >> reporter: kavanaugh himself was asked about the house parties earlier this week. >> did you ever participate in or were you ever aware of any gang rape that happened at a party that you attended? >> that's totally false and outrageous. never done any such thing, known about any such thing. >> reporter: the allegations were made public by swetnick's lawyer michael avenatti. who also represents porn star stormed in her legal fight with president trump. avenatti told msnbc swetnick, who is reportedly a government contractor reached out to him and he checked out her story. >> this is a woman who has received numerous security clearances over the years issued by the u.s. government, including secret security clearances as well as public trust security clearances that require very detailed vetting performed by the u.s. government. >> reporter: president trump fired back at avenatti. >> you look

kavanagh's lawyer beth wilkinson. >> he's outraged as you might imagine by this most recent allegations never met this woman. he doesn't know miss swetnick. he didn't go to parties with her. >> reporter: kavanagh himself was asked about the house parties earlier this week. >> did you ever participate in or were you ever aware of any gang rape that happened at a party that you attended? >> that's totally false and outrageous. never done any such thing, known about any such thing. >> reporter: the allegations were made public by swetnick's lawyer, michael avenatti who also represents porn star stormy daniels in her legal case against president trump. the goverment karatcontractor reached out to him. >> this is a woman who received numerous security clearances over the years issued by the u.s. government, including secret security clearances as well as public trust security clearances that require very detailed vetting performed by the u. gont. >> reporter: this afternoon president trump fired back at avenatti. >> you look at this lawyer that just came out. he's a low life. he represented

earlier we spoke with beth wilkinson. an attorney for judge kavanaugh. norah was with us then before hhe left for this morning's interview with secretary of state. >> good morning, the u.n. is that "u.s.a. today" is reporting that dr. ford has offered the clnate four people whoua assau including a friend and her husband. is the evidence mounting against your client? y those are ldn't say that. statements that were made relatively recently. and sadly, this is an allegation aom almost 36 years ago and there are, there was at the reporno report. which is understandable. legationfirst time these allegations came to light as far as we know, from reading the reports in the media, dr. blaise we y told her husband and therapist. had beeni understand it, they did not turn notes or lie any to ctor test over to the senate committee. so the information that would wve shown that would have said at the very first time when she revealed these allegations has evealed turned over to the senate. ed you're saying that that lie detector test that they referenced has not, th

beth wilkinson raised these questions today. >> i have had people call me and email me saying they know, they were at the parties, they've never met her and never seen her. if this was happening over two years with all these women and all these men, someone else would have heard about it and would have reported it by now. >> tucker: affair questions. what's the answer? and by the way, what was julie swetnick doing at these parties? she graduated in 1980 which meant she would be in college when the party took place and yet she went parties to high school kids. at these parties she saw horrific rapes, and she never reported them to police. most baffling of all, how did the fbi missed the fact that kavanaugh was part of a huge ring? he's had six federal background checks and staff secretary, he had the highest possible security clearance, one that allowed him access to this country's nuclear codes. fbi agents would have spoken to huge variety of people who knew or knew of and kavanaugh during his high school years and yet not one of them mentioned he was a serial who committed his in rooms

for senators watching today i think the argument that beth wilkinson made to you yesterday, that whatd do to people that want to pursue public service in the future? this what about something that is 30 years ago? avenatti, he said something yesterday that may affect senators saying this is a pylon, like sworn testimony, and those are all factors that senators will bring -- >> those are two separate things. the argument that what does this message send that may want to serve in sexual assault, maybe don't commit sexual assault. as for the other allegations, and i think those are very different -- >> yeah, avenatti, that was not vetted, and we can't corroborate, and two anonymous claims, one was retracted, and the republicans have men coming forward and saying it was them. >> is that also crazy. two men have come forward to say what happened to christine blasey ford was actually they, these two men that were willing to take the fall and say that they are the ones that covered her mouth and kept her from screaming and attempted sexual assault. what is happening? that's why i think more

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. >> arrest rana, appreciate the reporting that, don't go anywhere, wolf has brettbreath beth wilkinsonfter a quick break. have a good day. ♪ quit cable it came from the toaster. ♪ quit cable uh... ♪ quit cable now you can quit cable. switch to directv for $35 per month. rated #1 in customer satisfaction over cable. more for you quitting cable thing. that's our thing. call 1.800.directv. another anti-wrinkle cream in no hurry to make anything happen. neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair works in just one week. with the fastest retinol formula to visibly reduce wrinkles. neutrogena®. >>> hello, i'm wolf blitsder, it's 1:00 p.m. here in washington. thanks very much for joining us. we begin with breaking news, truly explosive allegations against supreme court nominee brett kavanagh, they're being made by julie swetnick, now the third woman to come forward and accuse the nominee of either sexual assault or inappropriate misconduct. in a signed declaration, sworn at the same time. swetnick now says she partied more than 10 times with kavanagh back in the early 1980s, when they were both in high

. >> i asked beth wilkinson about that yesterday because i had her on my show, why no fbi investigation. she kept turning it around because we were focused on the avenatti accuser and her claims. she kept turning it around to say if this -- if this woman says -- if what this woman says happened is true, these gang rapes, these train rapes, why did avenatti not immediately go to the fbi? she couldn't answer directly why kavanaugh himself would not go to the fbi to clear his name. they don't have a good answer for it. >> cynthia, it's important to remember while we watch this, there are other aircraft circling. this is not the only accuser. >> that's right. that's exactly right. i got the sense yesterday, because katy i watched your show, that was a fascinating interview with beth. she wanted to focus on the train rapes. but let's remember as outrageous as that claim is, and as hard as it is as the mother of four daughters that that was happening but as a sex crimes prosecutor didn't surprise me, mark judge, the great mystery man in all of this, his girlfriend said he told her that was ba

. >> laura: that was beth wilkinson, attorney for brett kavanaugh, summing up how impossible a task thiselop an effective defense to charges that don't include a corroborating witness from 36 years ago. joining us now is someone with firsthand knowledge about these months. suzanne matin's list on my calendar and spent much of the summer of '82 with pals, including brett kavanaugh. thank you for being here. first, what was your relationship with brett? you are listed on june 6th, jun. [laughs] it says "suzanne." i guess that is you. do you remember? >> that is me. let's start with the fact that he kept a calendar. >> laura: [laughs] exactly. >> in high school, he kept a calendar and still has a today. that shows his level of organization, diligence, and yes. we were great friends in high school. >> laura: do remember seeing "grace 2" with brett on june 16th? this is like a time time capsule. >> not as great as "grease 1." >> laura: what you think about these allegations, these latest allegations from a woman named julie swetnick. we found out more about her tonight courtesy of "the new yo

his attorney beth wilkinson added this. >> he doesn't know her. he doesn't -- he's never met her. and we've had people already calling our office and e-mailing us saying they don't know her, they've never seen her at the parties they attended with him. but when you think of the allegations, they are alleging that for years there were gang rapes going on with multiple men-w multiple women being victims. that is such a frightening allegation. no one ever went to the police? no one's gone to the police to this day to report those allegations? it's truly outrageous. >> tonight michael avenatti says the fbi should begin looking into his client's allegations. >> we're demanding an fbi investigation proceed forthwith. my client is prepared to meet with the fbi. she's willing to sit down with fbi agents, answer any questions they have about all of these allegations. >> this afternoon in his longest solo news conference to date, only the fourth of his presidency, donald trump spoke at length about the allegations facing his nominee. >> it is. it's a con job. you know, confidence. it's a co

what a time it must be for them, to those caucusing around, beth wilkinson is one of them. >> it will very tough to prep this witness after this morning. it's hard to understand why the republicans are doing this. if they would pull this, they would have time to get somebody else and it would be cleaner. >> they want to call a vote tomorrow. i've been talking to republican operatives who want to see someone like kavanaugh confirmed. they say if they want -- if the democrats want to take down this nomination, they should have a vote tomorrow. they should be calling for a vote tomorrow because her testimony was so powerful and so credible and so emotional. and i'm getting choked up because i still have a cough, just to be clear. that there will be republicans who will vote no after that. >> yeah, that's what we keep hearing. we keep hearing of soft republican votes. daniel, i asked cynthia this question, what are the questions you would ask kavanaugh? >> i think from the democrats' side it's going to be free wheeling. i think they're going to be remarkably few questions about dr. ford.

beth wilkinson, first rate washington lawyer, how on earth do you tell your client to get the tone right for when it's his turn after this extraordinary morning? >> so presumably judge kavanaugh, he spent at least the last week closeted at the white house, hasn't just rehearsed his story, he's been videotaped, he's been coached, on how to present it in tone. that's just the reality of how this preparation is done these days. he has a very narrow path here. i'm not sure there's any successful way to move forward. steve schmidt said yesterday that anyone who votes in favor of kavanaugh will have to explain why they don't believe the women. and after watching dr. ford, i'm not certain what the credible explanation for why you don't believe her is. but that's his job. he'll have to give anyone who wants to vote for him reason to answer that question and say that she's not believable. >> and when daniel goldman raises the possibility that he won't be able to return to the d.c. circuit, that gets your attention. >> well, that's an interesting possibility. it would require some form of action,

it very well might be beth wilkinson, who is the attorney represented brett kavanaugh. she doesn't want the visual of a female attorney questioning a female accuser. byron, that is what i think, i think any fair-minded person watching this, after all of these complaints about the white men interrogating a woman, now they have a woman and they say, we don't want a woman. what is that, byron? >> some of these demands aren't going the sit well with the committee. i think as far as the demand that kavanaugh go first, i think the committees answer will be "no can do, not going to happen." and on what you mentioned, only members can request her, no outside lawyers can question her. i think the response of all of the members, certainly all of the republicans, will be "wait a minute, who's committee is this"? on the other hand, on her flat refusal to appear on monday, i think that could put a lot of pressure on the committee because, for chairman grassley to stick firm to monday, i think he would need all 11 of his members, republican members on the committee to be with him. an

. >> he has a very good lawyer, beth wilkinson.erstand she was out of town for a while and she's back. and you can see the better lawyering, quite frankly, that he has gotten. and she is a very good lawyer. >> first rate. >> they are thumbprint is on. people will be surprised -- this is my experience with sex crimes. because we all watch television and we all think i can handle that. actually, you sort of always are a little bit back but when that camera goes on her, similar to when jurors hear victims in the courtroom, it's a different thing. there's an emotional intensity to it. this is a smaller courtroom. this is a smaller room. the camera will zoom on her. i think people will find they have an emotional experience that they don't expect in the back and forth of people in boxes talking about this. that could very much -- the intimacy of it could very much change the way people view this -- her testimony. >> this has gotten even bigger than christine ford and will brett kavanaugh get this job. at this point, this is about the pr

a short time ago i talked with judge kavanaugh's attorney, beth wilkinson. >> bret: there are no calls, not only the senate minority leader chuck schumer, but all ten democrats on the senate judiciary committee are calling for kavanaugh to withdraw his nomination. is he considering that at all? >> no, he's not. and it's very unfortunate that it's come to this today. i'm shocked by the allegations, extraordinary that they were just dropped on the public today and on the committee. if you read those allegations, they mean that tens and tens of men and women were involved with gang rape and binge drinking and no one reported it and no one reported that since judge kavanaugh has been in this process. if this allegation has merit, i don't understand why her attorney didn't bring it forward before and why he hasn't gone to the police. >> bret: the democrats are saying why not just put the brakes on everything until the fbi to reopen this background investigation? >> that's up to the senate judiciary committee. >> bret: they say it's up to judge kavanaugh. >> it's really not. if the senate is

beth wilkinson/attorney for brett kavanaugh: judge kavanaugh doesn't know her, and he said that overagain. that he never engaged in that behavior.kavanaugh is facing accusations of sexual misconduct from multiple women during the early 1980's. including christine blasey ford's claim. republicans say despite calls for a delay - tomorrow's hearing is still on.sen chuck grassley/-r- senate judiciary cmte chair: i have a definite responsibility to hold a hearing not only for her, but for judge kavanaugh republican senators have called in a a sex crimes prosecutor rachel mitchell to handle the questioning. meanwhile - president trump continued to weigh in from the united nations wednesday-pres donald trump: the democrats are playing this game that's disgraceful.in written testimony for tomorrows' hearing kavanaugh says he's facing a barrage of "last-minute smears."in washington, i'm omar jimenez reporting. (catherine) c-n-n is reporting kavanaugh was asked by the commmittee about two other unnamed accusers ... numbers four and five. n-b-c news is citing a woman says kavanaugh shoved her a

he hired a new lawyer as you know, beth wilkinson, not talking to president trump and trying to, i guess more character witnesses and people coming to support on television. we know that they want that. all these ads are being run obviously preparing for any question you can get from either side on monday. neil: a.b. stoddard, thank you very, very much. >> thanks, neil. neil: latest on that what is coming forth from the back and forth legal discussions at white house. maybe i is trying to avoid him to not put undo pressure on any party. the president was more forceful on the remarks, that he regrets it but wants to see the process play out. the question is as tempers rise will anyone let it? after this. rising demand for lithium used in batteries is exceeding supply. current lithium brine extraction methods use solar evaporation ponds that take over a year to process. mgx minerals has developed a technology to rapidly extract lithium in just 1 day, using efficient clean technology. mgx minerals: the renewable energy company. symbol mgxmf on the go and want to rent a movie? showtime. or b

question number one, beth wilkinson, judge kavanaugh's lawyer, has said -- she said on cnn, she denied the allegations that your client has made against brett kavanaugh, and she said that your client could have just gone directly to the police with these allegations and still could. did these alleged crimes take place in montgomery county, and will your client attempt to file a police report about them now? >> she may very well pursue criminal charges against the individuals involved, joy. i think as my client's story is told my by client here shortly, america is going to learn the details surrounding what happened and exactly what she did at the time. there are witnesses that she confided in contemporaneous with what transpired. so we're talking about decades ago. and confided in them about what transpired. and i think that goes to support her credibility. let me say this about miss wilkinson and her client, brett kavanaugh. i have offered that if miss wilkinson would like to cross examine my client for eight hours under oath in a videotaped deposition, i'm more than happy to make her