. >> trace: let's bring in co-author of stolen youth, school bored candidate bethany mandel along with founder of last people forget, elizabeth pipko. bethany, to you first, when i interviewed the goldberg-polin's i was kind of saying we talked about it and we laughed and i said man, it is such a strong family. to think that you know, because you saw the video, that your son lost part of his arm and you wonder what's happening, and then for 200 days not to here anything and to here that he's alive, i can't even imagine what that is, the emotional roller coaster that is, bethany. >> yeah, they have been incredible throughout, they have become really the public face of a lot of the hostage families because they have perfect english, they are american and they have been tireless. they met with the pope, elon musk, president biden, and they've been wearing the tape on their shirts just like i'm wearing tonight with the number of days that hersh has been held hostage along with a hundred 33 other innocent souls. thank god they got this confirmation of life but i think this just added to the