. >> bethany marshall, we talked about the psychological aspects of this. what does it say to you to do this kind of a thing to a body? >> well, obviously he did not want to be id'd. could you imagine smashing a person's teeth out and cutting off their fingers? this guy had no feelings for her other than rage. but it suggests this was part of a crime of passion, that he was relating to her on the basis of power rather than affection. remember they were at a poker tournament. they were on their way back. something probably happened. he has a -- a history of domestic charges filed against him. he punched her, hit her in april. so probably something happened that destabilized him. another man looked at her, he thought she was flirting, they got in a domestic dispute. it went way too far. it was a crime of passion. and when he realized he'd gone way too far, he had to find a way for the body not to be id'd so that he could get across the border. this is very different from premeditated homicide where the murderer actually prepares a dump site for the body where

. >> straight out to bethany marshall, dr. marshall, psychoanalyst, author of "deal-breakers." how do you discern her demeanor? misty croslin's demeanor? >> i think she is so arrogant, deceptive and manipulative and lacks big-picture thinking. she thought she could cheat on and ace a polygraph as a scheme to get equusearch in to detract the attention away from her. it's just an elaborate ruse. what that makes me wonder is, is she feeling the heat from her husband, from a relative or, more importantly, is she feeling the heat from the police? but it is so arrogant and so cruel to exploit equusearch. that's such a valuable organization, just to distract the attention away from her. it's small-minded, arrogant and mean. >> marc klaas, marc, what do you make of it? >> well, i don't -- i usually agree with bethany, but in this case, i don't. i almost think that equusearch is exploiting the situation. i know what my role is in these kinds of cases when we're called in to search. it's exactly to do that, to get our teams out there, t

bethany marshall, everybody, we're taking your calls live. this woman is stunning. 26-year-old workout enthusiast, let me say. only married six months. the bloom should not be off the rose, bethany marshall. they're newlyweds. dr. bethany, is she crazy? she approaches a friend, and i don't care how good of a friend you are. who is going to go along with hiring a hit man? >> well, obviously she didn't have big-picture thinking if she approached a friend not thinking that person would turn her into the police, but most women who kill their husbands usually have what's called a borderline personality disorder configuration. >> don't start up, bethany. there's nothing wrong with this woman. >> well, but it's not a mental illness. it's just a personality disorder, and there's extreme ragefulness at the smallest of provocations, but what i think is interesting, he has a criminal history as well. he was giving her cash to pay bills, and then she wasn't even paying the bills with it. was there a financial incentive on her part? was there a joint corr

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who better than bethany marshall, psychoanalyst, to answer it. first of all, that dovetails with another big story. the reports out of some quarters michael jackson might have had a love child, omar bhatti, a 25-year-old aspiring rapper from norway who says, no, i was just a friend of his, but joe jackson is apparently saying, well, you know, he has the same jackson dance and jackson walk as the rest of the jacksons. what do you make of all of that, bethany? >> i'm very suspicious when joe jackson starts talking about somebody's walk and talk. i feel like he's promoting a new album and artist. i'm suspicious of what he has to say. in terms of brenda's question, it could be that michael jackson, we found out in the trial that maybe he was not sexually attracted to age mates. maybe he didn't want to procreate with another woman. maybe he wanted sole control over the children, he did not want to share parenting with another parent. maybe he was a divisive sort of character. so the idea of sharing parenting, making joint decisions, having a loving re

to bethany marshall, psychoanalyst, author of "deal breakers," hold on. you just hear, oh, he was a nice, nice guy, but he wanted an open marriage. mutually exclusive. >> well, i wouldn't -- she may not be the most reliable historian of this relationship and what -- if you look at the 20-point checklist, this is the checklist used in forensic settings to determine if someone is a psychopath. you have prunwillingness to get job, charming, glib, superficial. it goes pathological jealousy, rage. the minute she disappoints you, you strike out, slice and dice. this is the -- what was brewing for him psychologically. >> do tto the lawyers. we're taking your calls live. richard herman, you and i and mickey, of course, have handled a lot of homicide cases on two different sides of the fence. but i find it hard to believe that he had the wherewithal to dismember this body without an accomplice. >> the brutalized, there were reports that every teeth were removed and fingers removed. he had to be in a rage. i don't understand this. >> we'll be back with sherman, but

i want to go right out to bethany marshall. >> i think being on the reality show may have destabilized him. men relate to women on the basis of power, not affection. so being on the show megan obviously didn't choose him. he had to leave the show. then he realizes he's not as important and as much of a celebrity as he had hoped for. he marries this beautiful model. he can't control her. we can all see clearly how gorgeous she is. that could have destabilized him once again. what did he do? he felt trashed, so he turned her into trash. that suitcase, that suitcase in which she put all those beautiful outfits and costumes, did he resent her beauty? so he tossed out the cost tombs, put her in the suitcase like trash and threw her in the trash. >> if you take a look at it, i'll tell you, since you didn't ask me, bethany, sounds like he was destabilized way back when if he was punching a girlfriend in the case all the way back in 2005. quickly, back to you clark goldband. an interesting and integral point in the police investigation is that what he told cops when he reported her missing doe

the bloom should not be off the rose, bethany marshall. they're newlyweds. dr. bethany, is she crazy? she approaches a friend, and i don't care how good of a friend you are. who is going to go along with hiring a hit-man? >> well, obviously she didn't have big picture thinking if she approached a friend not thinking that person would turn her into the police, but most women who kill their husbands usually have what's called a borderline personality disorder. stlo don't start up. there's nothing wrong with this woman. >> well, but it's not a mental illness. it's just a personality edition order, and there's extreme ragefulness at the smallest of provocation. he has a criminal history as well. he was giving her cash to pay bills, and then she wasn't even paying the bills with it. was there a financial incentive on her part? was there a joint corruption of conscience on both of their parts, and they aked out it together? with borderline there's ragefulness and impulseivity and a very malicious and revengeful way. >> we are taking your calls live out to sandy in min

bethany marshall, author of "deal breakers," does the private live-in doctor, stripper girlfriend fit into that scenario? >> apparently dr. murray had an ex-stripper girlfriend with 6 whom he had a love child, and he stashed her in an apartment near king of pop's home. according to one report, he gave this woman a $3500 check the night after their first encounter. is this the kind of grandiosity that -- >> wait, wait, hold up. their first encounter. you mean their first trick? >> their first sexual encounter? >> you know, be my guest. so, natisha lance, do cell phone records suggest that he juices jackson up with an intravenous shot and leaves the room to call the stripper girlfriend? >> we don't even know how long dr. murray had left the room for, but we do know when he returned, michael jackson was no longer breathing. >> to tom shamshack former police chief, and now an instructor at boston university, private investigator. tom, where would you go from here? >> nancy, good evening. the one investigative tool that i would use would be the timeline, and i would make sure that we find