bethis is what you want to -- see if it feels right you as a young person. you will spend a lot of energy and your life trying to get ahead. patty get ahead? education. as her parents said to us, and as my father said, the only things you have in life are your education and your reputation. get yourself the best education that you can. get ahead, it is hard work. it is a lot of work. look for people who are willing to open themselves up and mentor you. ask a lot of questions. the inquisitive and work overtime. you don't get ahead -- it is not easy. my penultimate question for you, you have a known be president and the first lady for a long time. tell us something about the president that we do not know? >> that is probably impossible. he is under the microscope, certainly throughout his presidency and far before that. here is what i would say. mind back to in my what i do -- he has a very ambitious agenda, a growth agenda. >> what are they like his people? in a plane, in a restaurant, behind-the-scenes? >> to me, my experience is that the president and the f