i was in bethlehem during the second intifada and mr. arafat asked me to go there to help with the negotiations. the second intifada was what period of time? >> guest: this was april 2002 and the israelis rolled into the west bank and they chased a square root of the palestinian militias and they put them under siege in bethlehem. this season went on and on and finally, mr. arafat asked me to go there and i walked into bethlehem under siege. it was a mass. and i realized after three or four days of on-again off-again negotiations that i wasn't going to be able to solve it, my colleagues weren't going to be up to solve it in my colleagues on the ground warrants be able to bring the siege to an end. it was going to have to be arafat, and he did. these guys inside the church, the real nor curious ones were sent into exile. i went to s-sierra for two days later and i said mr. arafat you cross the red line. he said, what is that red line? i said one palestinian doesn't send another palestinian into exile. he said i have a new red line. i said

well, the first thing to say to bethlehem is that we have benefited from immigration. and people who come here legally and come and live here legally, we should be incredibly warm and welcoming and hospitable and build a strong and integrated country, where actually we build a strong society together. i think that's really important to say that, first up. i do believe that immigration in recent years has just simply been too high. we do need to bring the level down. that is the first bit of fairness that needs to be sorted out. people do want this addressed. the other two parties are not actually really addressing this issue. we believe you do need to have a cap on people coming from outside the european union, for economic reasons. that would help to bring it down. added to that, is new european countries, when they join the eu, we say there should be transitional controls. we were told there would only be 13,000 people coming from poland, in the end there were hundreds of thousands. that is absolutely vital, we are the only ones saying, let's grip this, let's have a

i was in bethlehem and mr. arafat arafat asked to go on the negotiations bill. this was april 2002 and the israelis came into the west bank and chase the major square road of militia and they put them under siege. and this went on and on and finally mr. arafat asked me to go there i walked into bethlehem under siege and it was a mess and the realized three or four days of on-again off-again negotiations that i could not solve it my colleagues could not solve it they cannot bring the siege to the end, arafat did. these guys inside the church, the notorious ones, i went to see arafat two days later and said you crossed the red line and he said void is that? i said one palestinian does not send another into exile. he said i have the new red line pro one palestinian does not said one palestinian to the israeli jail. he said you cannot be more palestinian than me. [laughter] this is a lesson for the new conservatives. and four supporters for israel in the united states we have a good strong stable relationship and a strategic alliance and we should have but we cannot

he was laid off from the bethlehem steel there a while ago. so he's -- he does short and occasionally long-haul trucking up and down the east coast. and they're in their 60's and 70's. >> du jour book, "the mmortal life of henrietta lacks" bring them media attention or have they avoided the limelight? >> there is the immediate interests, but it sort of picking and choosing what they do. they were yeah pics six, away with their article or an speak for themselves and that people hear them. one of the things that's been happening with the story is that, you know, i worked on this for over a decade and there was quite a while where they were like yeah right, you're never going to finish this book. and then when i did finish it, there was the sense among her kids and nobody was going to read it and nobody was going to care because that's been their experience for all their lives. and so for them, you know, the media coverage and, you know, they come to a lot of my book events book events as i've been on the october and the responses are really amaz

i was in bethlehem during the second and they asked me to go to help in the negotiations. >> host: this was what period of time? >> guest: april, 2002 and the israelis have rolled into the west bank and they chased manger square rhode the palestinian militias and the had put them under siege in the church in bethlehem and this went on and on and they asked me to go and i walked into before him under siege and it was just a mass. i realized after three or four days of on-again off-again negotiations that lie wasn't going to be to solve it, my colleagues were not, the people on the ground were not going to be able to bring the siege it was going to have to be verified. and he did and these guys inside the church, the real notorious once%. i went to see arafat two days later and i said you've crossed the line and he said what is the bread line and i said one of palestinian descent send another into exile. and he said i have a new red line and i said what is it and he said one palestinian doesn't send another treen is really a jail and what kind of lean back and he looked at me and says you

he was laid off from the bethlehem steel there. so he is a -- he does short and occasionally long-haul trucking up and down the east coast. they're in their 60s and 70s. >> host: did your book, "the immortal life of henrietta lacks," bring them a lot of media attention? have they avoided the limelight? >> guest: they're not interesting. they're picking and choosing. they were on cbs sunday morning, did this big segment, which was great for them. just have them heard. one of the things that is happening -- the story is -- i worked on this for over a decade, and there was quite a while there where, like, yeah, right you're never going to finish this book. and there was this sense among her kids that nobody was going to read and it nobody was going to care because that's been their experience for all their lives. so 0, for them, you know, the media coverage and they have come a lot of my book events, and the response has been really amazing for them, i think, because it's been really validating. and it's not -- for her children, the s

he was laid off from bethlehem steel a while ago so he does occasionally long-haul trucking and down the coast and they are in their 60's and 70's and -- >> did your book "the immortal life of henrietta lacks" bring them media attention or have they avoided the limelight? >> there's definitely been media interest but they are picking and choosing what they do but they were on cbs sunday morning and to the segment recently which was great for them. they loved the chance to go elbe and speak for themselves and have people hear them to read one of the things happening with the story is i worked on this over a decade and there was quite a while they were like kiev right you're never going to finish thisjeç book and then whi did finish there was this sense among her kids nobody was going to read or nobody was going to care because that was their experience most of their lives so for them the media coverage and -- the country a lot of my eve ensler as i've been on the book tour and the response has been amazing for them because it's been validating. for her children the story has so much a

vice president biden traveled to bethlehem, pennsylvania today to make that point. >> the average tax refund in america is up over $3,000 this year and in no small part it broke that barrier because of the tax breaks that exist in this recovery act. >> lehrer: better-off americans will face future tax hikes, as health care reform takes hold and as some of the bush tax cuts expire in january. that prospect was enough to spark competing claims at the u.s. capitol today. >> i think there is some conflicting views right now. nobody likes to pay taxes, but responsibility to do it. >> these democrats that were up here have the same attitude as speaker pelosi and majority leader reid and the president have-- that washington knows best. send us the money and we'll decide what's best for you. >> lehrer: the debate promised to continue long after tax day and all the way to congressional elections this fall. >> woodruff: we asked our local pbs affiliate, wedu, to help us round up the people you see behind me, all. >> rodriguez: residents of this area. joining us to answer questions from this aud

about this and the palestinians waited until after august, when after the five top party congress in bethlehem so it has not been a full year we have been able to engage in both parties but do remember a year ago the israelis and palestinians were just coming out of a war. now, both sides have reaffirmed their commitment to a two-state solution and let's hope we can move ahead to the negotiating track but it is only one of three that we are looking at as airlink, and mutually reinforcing. the second area is security. palestinians need security, the israelis need security, but the palestinian security performance , should i say good policy performance is absolutely essential to being able to move ahead on the negotiating track toward a peace track and the palestinians need to feel secure as well so i would put security as a second track. there has been frankly quite a bit of success on this track when you talk about security in the west bank. the third track is exactly what elliott was talking about which is the institutional development supporting prime minister salaam fayyad's plan to build i

for 100 years and i defy anyone to go back and see where peabody had a tragedy like this, where bethlehem -- it never happened. this company had two of these tragedies in upper big brand and i want to report something. these miners are scared to death. they are intimidated. this company is run like it was 1921. that is the truth. you don't have to take my word for this. i can tell you the communities and the people of western junior had enough of this and they are ready to take a position. my position is when you talk about criminal prosecution, now all is the time because people who knew this was going on, no question in my mind that the people at the top and the board of directors knew that this was in this kind of shape, this ceo doesn't live a thousand miles away. he checks on these mines every single day. you have to understand when you have people like this, we share the whole federal government responsible. how can accompany be allowed to put people in this kind of a position. congress should take a position and say we are not going to tolerate this. this is not china or columbia.

the first call is from bethlehem, new york, republican line. caller: actually, i'm in buffalo.host: sorry about that. caller: that is all right. i want to say first of all i identify myself as a member of the tea party movement. i do agree with some of the things obama has done, for example the current nuclear agreement that he discussed with russia. i don't think that palin has a grasp on that because when she appeared on hannity she said ronald reagan wouldn't have done that, which is not the case because he did say during his presidency he wanted to reduce the nuclear supplier, the nuclear capability by one-third just like obama is doing. so people in the tea party movement or anywhere else to say because of this he is a socialist or putting us in danger is not true if you look at the full agreement, what it means is we still have first strike capability. that has not condition extinguish extinguished. if iran or north korea attack us we have the ability to attack them with nuclear weapons because they are not in compliance with the nuclear proliferation treaty. so, we are n

and decorated the christmas tree with gold christmas trees, santa in the slay, baby jesus, star of bethlehem, each of those were engraved with the name of either the employee, their spouse or one of their children. and there were enough that were dependent ent on king construction and the decisions that i made affected the lives of all of those families and their family. it gave me great joy during that time to see that that we built something that we were dependent upon, something that was good, honest, and the tax burden on that was one of the anchors we had to drag all the way through. i wanted to eliminate the the speaker pro tempore: r.s. and -- i.r.s. and let people earn all they could earn and invest, accept the proceeds of their investments and move them around, sell anything you want to sell, take your capital gains, put it in the bank. but when you spend the money, pay the tax. and i understand and madam speaker, i would think anybody at this level of government should understand businesses don't pay taxes. corporations, sole propertyorships. they don't pay taxes. they pass costs t