. >> and just to clarify on that point, that betion' not the current practice of rec and park now. we don't let the water rise slightly in the spring and summer to have the outcome that you just spoke about. >> that's correct. under current conditions the rec and park has constraints on pumping during the winter season when the [speaker not understood] of superior courtes called the red legged frog is present. outside of that season there are no constraints on pumping. in fact, the record shows that we submitted to the board in march of 2011 through the june of the following month, the critical period we're talking about, they pumped out over 100 million gallons of water from the system during that time period. and right -- this month, march of 2014. we monitored the pumping operation of sharp park and on march 2nd, right after one of the very few rains we had this year, they were pumping water out again despite the fact there have been extensive drought conditions and water levels of sharp park and water levels at sharp are as low as i've seen them in the several years i've been m