how about you, betsey? >> caller: can i tell you something? i learned so much from the monthly meeting and anybody that doesn't become a member and doesn't listen to that is missing out and i will tell you what i learned from it, i did more research on estee lauder after the call what i found was there were 12,000 flights cancelled okay if there were 12,000 flights cancelled, there were over a million people stuck in the airports and they didn't have their suitcases, and they didn't have their makeup and bumble and bumble and the lab series and the bobby brown cosmetics and where did they go? they couldn't go to a mall they were waiting for the plane to be coming in. so estee lauder probably made out like a bandit at the airport. >> oh, my, betsey, that is one brilliant analysis i have to admit, i didn't think of it. they are duty free the most important venue other than china. you know on the home stretch today around 2:30. jeff marks and i talked about estee lauder i wish i had your horse sense. i would have thrown it in as one more reason w

betsey stevenson served on obama's economic advisers, chief economist of the department of labor. and economics university of michigan. great to have you back. someone was talking about it being, i think i can economy, no matter what happens, it has just kept chugging along. this is in the face of all kinds of challenges, supply chalk from the war in europe, spiking gas and commodity prices, and high inflation, and rate rises. it continues to be striking to me when you take a step back, where we are in this recovery. >> i think what we've learned is when you give families, people, enough money, to me we don't have a bunch of people who are at risk of eviction, losing the house, not having food on the table, it gives them a lot of room to budget, to smooth overtime, and to make sure we don't have the big drops that come as the economy starts to change. it really has been an economy that is quite strong, continuing to add jobs, continuing to grow, and with consumer spending staying strong despite the fact that government support has been removed, with gradually, but it's all gone no

betsey stevenson, always good to have you on the program, thank. thursday night. alex wagner tonight starts right now. good evening, alex. r tonight starts right now. >> chris, it's hard to speak broadly about the economy when inequality is so piercing, right, to give one big assessment about how it feels to be financially secure in this country when -- >> that's the weird thing about the economy. look at the macro economics, but it feels different to

betsey stevenson, always good to have you on the program, thank. you >> great to talk to you. >> that is all in on this thursday night. alex wagner tonight starts right now. good evening, alex. r tonight starts right now. >> chris, it's hard to speak broadly about the economy when inequality is so piercing, right, to give one big assessment about how it feels to be financially secure in this country when -- >> that's the weird thing about the economy. look at the macro economics, but it feels different to be in it because we put so much on the onus of individual shoulders. and the broad aggregate sense, it's way better than i feared it would be. >> we will take that statement and run with it. thank you, my friend. thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. one of the many revelations to come out of the january six committee hearings was trump attorney general bill barr described, in his own words, how he pushed back against trump's claims of election fraud. he called those claims bogus, crazy stuff, and, most incuriously, complete bias. despit