judy cohen and betsey west, thank you so much for being with us. and from that living legend, we delve into some ancient myths with our next guest, marlin james, the award winning jamaican author who brings us a powerful saga in his new book, black leopard, new wolf. he told our elisia menendez about his new fantasy epic. >> thank you so much for being with us today. this is complex book, a complex world. how do you describe it? >> you know, the best way to describe it is just start at the beginning. a slave trader hires a bunch of mercenaries to find a child who's been missing for three years. that's all they know. the story then jump tuesday the end. they found the child, terrible things happened, people want answers. there are only three witnesses, and each witness is now going to tell the reader what they saw. >> what does that tell you about the nature of truth, there can be three different truths of one story. >> for one the reader has to decide. because i'm not going to tell them who to believe. pretty much you're judging. >> i like that. >>