host: another headline here about betsy devos, the former national teacher of the year, she and betsyevos sparred over the use of federal money to arm teachers. quite an exchange there in that hearing. we will take a look at that dialogue now about the arming of teachers. [video clip] >> in august of 2018 it was wasrted that the department considering the use of federal funds to arm teachers. and all of your previous statements and even just now you have maintained that you lack the authority to approve or deny the ability to purchase arms for tax -- with taxpayer money. mr. chair, in the documents i have just submitted there are emails from staff at your department that discuss a a.ision memo on four i will tell you what it says. on page four of the memo that came out of your department with the advice of your general counsel it says that the department's office of the general counsel has advised that the secretary has discretion to interpret the broad at language to itsstatute as permissiveness regarding the purchase of firearms and the training and use of firearms. it continues on

betsy: sure.he specific quarter, is why we are deeper below the street on goldman and some of the other names we cover. do your point on where do they go from here? we see an improvement in the trading activity faster. the other point is deposit pricing. we had low deposit betas. we think that will pick up and differentiate some of the institutions that have the better quality consumer franchises. krishna: on the business side, from a loan growth perspective, one question we have to ask ourselves, are the larger banks in the most important part of the market, which is where private credit has been going? is this a permanent phenomenon the way corporate bond markets intermediated high-grade loans decades ago. you may have a debacle there. this private credit thing is more permanent than the banks are thinking about. david: is that hurting the main banks earnings? they are losing that high revenue of business? betsy: at this stage i would say no because banks are able to lend to their customers. the

i've been betsy's since pre-k. basically 10 years now. i'm 13. even though that my middle school is a few blocks away from little bessie, i still go there and sit down and play with my friends around the park. i had so many memories there. one of my friends actually got stuck in the baby seat and that was really funny, we had to get the fire department. she got stuck. she was yelling. i've been here since preschool in bessie. i been in the park so many times. i female like i kno i -- i feeli know every corner. the garden i been there a few times even though it's locked. the basketball court, you can play basketball. this is a really big problem. i've been there for so many years. >> next speaker please. >> good afternoon supervisors. i'm the district 3 youth commissioner. i'm here just to express my concerns with the shadow that will impact the people who use this park. i wanted to mention that the youth commission has worked on enforcing the sun light ordinance for many years. also in different neighborhoods. we think that it's important that th

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joining the conversation betsy woodruff and rick stengel. betsy, let me start with you. a lot of questions about why barr said what he said. but today a realization setting in that even barr might miss some of the credibility we squandered this week by peddling what robert costa said by peddling a line so far to the right of this investigation that the freedom caucus members were surprised to hear it. >> that's right. i can tell you there was significant anger and frustration within the fbi when barr made this spying comment because it essentially, you know, demonizes the work the bureau does to engage in its law enforcement mission. barr's comment frustrated people within the intelligence community who heard it as a way of trying to compare the work that they do with sort of cloak and dagger james bond movie type commentary. rod rosenstein, of course, has taken some heat over the last 24 to 48 hours for defending barr's basic approach to handling the mueller probe but there's a difference between the way he handled these accusations of spying and the way barr did. a big

. >>> we're back with errol louis, ana navarro and betsy mccoy. betsy, pick up your point. don't like mueller who's not a prosecutor to pick this third way of saying can't prosecute, can't exonerate. however, to errol's point, he's in a different spot than a typical prosecutor because he is not allowed to prosecute the person he is investigating and this seems to be a nod to that. now, of course the a.g. stepped in and said no obstruction. so what exactly is your complaint given the full context? >> my complaint is that in our system of government there is no third way by creating that third way what he's really doing is writing a report that's just a smear. if there isn't enough evidence to bring charges, and he stated several times in his report it was not simply that it's the president with whom he's dealing, there was insufficient evidence to bring charges that's where the report should have stopped. >> but he also said he couldn't clear him. >> to continue and say but i can't exonerate him is a departure from one of the most precious rights we have in our system of gov

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betsy is being very careful, which we appreciate.ve as someone who has reported on legal stories, there are times when prosecutors, current and former, are asked by everyone, all kinds of things that are of intrigue and they're tight lipped. while i'm not, to be cheelear, not confirming anything right now. i am asking where it looked like more of a drum beat here. >> consider the fact that they had friends and associates outside the office for 22 months, and their discipline was almost monk-like in terms of keeping their mouth shut. the only time we hear anything is when they have reason to believe the nation is being misled by barr. i think it is a good example of why it is the first amendment, the freedom of the press and freedom of the speech. this is how we correct government excesses and that's in my opinion whether it is happening. you're asking whether it is coordinated. i think these people were such that as former prosecutors and prosecutors as assistant special counsel, and as lifetime litigators, they can't, some part of t

betsy devos has, according to "newsweek", ten boats, two helicopters and a yacht scheduler. has so many yachts, she has a yacht scheduler! [ laughter ] what's a yacht scheduler!? [ laughter ] [ applause ] is it someone who -- [ cheers and applause ] is a yacht scheduler someone who when you say, "bring the yacht around" says, "i wouldn't do that. it might crash into the other yacht." [ laughter ] then after the hearing, reporters tried to get answers from devos as she waited for an elevator. and she responded by pretending not to hear them. >> madam secretary, do you any response to the democrats criticism of your budget proposal? madam secretary, you said today that you were not the person that proposed this funding change. can you explain who in your administration did? [ light laughter ] madam secretary, have you spoken to the president about this at all? if there's some misunderstanding, madam secretary, this is the opportunity to explain it to us. [ light laughter ] >> seth: i mean look at her. that's -- that's the face of someone thinking to herself, "where's my elevat

betsy devos is still worse.ghter ] i mean -- [ cheers and applause ] at least -- at least lori loughlin is trying to make it easier for people to get into college. [ light laughter ] in fact, even as trump and his inner circle have spent their time empowering and enriching themselves, they have also been awying to take healthcare from millions of people. last week the trump administration said the entire bfordable care act shoulde repealed and yet, as if that wasn't enough, t trump administration also decided to pick a totally unnecessary fight with basically everybody by proposing to cut funding for the special olympics. >> education secretary betsy devos came under fire on capital hill tuesday while defending proposed funding cuts for the special olympics. the trump administration wants to cut all $18 million i federal money for the program. >> seth: how awful do you have to be to try to cut funding for the special olympics? you might as well use the money you saved to bulldoze an orphanage. "we all know those

to that point, betsy and aaron, a slew of people. we tallied up our white house unit. how many people around the president's orbit were told to do sketchy stuff and did not do sketchy stuff. these folks who did not carry out his orders. what does this say to you about the culture around the president? the culture "new york times" describes as dishonesty in the west wing. >> this is something that happens in every administration or the president is blowing off steam. i think maybe you could make that argument if it is a handful of instances but all those people that you just showed on the screen, they were asked to carry out significant orders including trying to get jeff sessions to, you know, attack the investigation. he had recused himself from. >> trying to get the special counsel fired. >> very serious actions and i think that takes it to another level. >> there is a lot of focus on the profanity and i think in that paragraph, the more destructive thing is jeff, how could you let this happen because it was this loyalty expected from the attorney general and the law

betsy woodruff, you have covered this incredibly closely. did you take anything -- what do you feel like you learned new here from the attorney general? >> i spoke with jay yesterday and i don't have anything on the record that i could share about the white house legal team but as far as personal lawyers go, they don't have eyes on it. >> barr dodged the question b s buts, the record will be public as soon as next month and that is something that is a flash point for republicans. they are very focused on it. they have seen it as a parallel version of the mueller investigation. the investigation into this scandal that they care about and has the potential to be a very big deal to the president and to his allies when it drops. >> i did think it was interesting that the attorney general responded who, what, when first asked about carter page. heidi, you have covered this in congress. i was surprised he said he would leave the door open to giving them the full, unredacted version. the chairman has been fighting very hard for but it sounds like t

yes, students need money. >> let me repeat what betsy devos said on capitol hill on march 26th. >> weieve the federal work study program needs reforms, because the way the formula works today, very often those funds go to the most elite institutions, not the ones that are really serving the students with the most need. >> is that the same criticism you have? >> yes and no. i do think a disproportionate amount of furnisheds go to four-year institutions. black and brown students go to two-year institutions. she's right in that regard. but i would -- i would -- it's irresponsible to say that student who is attend four-year institutions or some of the elite institutions are elite. the institutions may be elite, but the students who are receiving these funds need them. so that part is accurate. >> always a pleasure to talk to you. >> thank you for joining us. andre perry, a fellow at the metropolitan museum. >> it's not that every program should be left as it is. maybe they should tighten up operations, they should be reformed. when we just keep hearing cut, slash, not working with no solu

attorney and betsy woodruff and, greg, let me start with you.oes the white house. >> it's dubious and the optics are terrible, but my understanding is that there is an issue or dispute with respect to whether he could have white house counsel there along with izh his personal counsel and the committee chair is saying you cannot have white house or agency counsel there. that will not hold. i think in my experience we typically allowed witnesses to bring in committees that allowed witnesses to bring personal counsel and agency counsel if they so chose and the committee simply didn't care and more interested in getting the testimony. we'll have see how this plays out. >> if it is executive privileges, does that change the game in your view? >> i think what needs to happen is that the committee needs to allow the committee to bring white house counsel with him and see how it goes. if white house counsel is too eager or too aggressive to prevent answers to questions, therein lies the rub and that could be a potential problem. >> you have been reporti

betsy? >> opportunity zones hold great promise for education and work force development. opportunity zones, one fifth of the residents do not have a high school diploma and many of those that do are ill prepared for the careers available. two speck areas we can be most helpful in is the development of carter schools. currently 70% of opportunity zones don't have a charter school. we can help private investors, help with facilities and incentivize grant competitions to help encourage that. also career and technical dwoment for facility equipment technology. and then this partners very well, opportunity zones partner very well with our education freedom scholarships initiative to provide families more options and opportunities right in their backyard. so i'm very thankful nor opportunity to work on this with the group here and for your leadership on this president trump: thank you, betsy. this is a very important day. i wish everybody good luck. in particular, scott, i have no idea -- no doubt you'll do a very fantastic job. thank you very much, everybody. [applause] >> mr.

joining me now is betsy woodruff and peter baker.ter, your colleagues at "the new york times" have reported all of this. and they write a little bit more in that story. in a meeting this year, mick mulvaney white house chief of staff made it clear that mr. trump still equated any public discussion of malign russian election activity with legitimacy of his victory. according to one official, mr. mulvaney said it wasn't a great subject and should be kept below his level. is this a sign that mulvaney didn't want this to be a priority of the government? or did he -- was he sort of trying to protect the president from his own worst instincts in this regard? >> look, i think this is consistent with what we have known now for the last couple of years and what was documented in the mueller report last week. multiple aides said the president considers any discussion whether it's in the past now or as we see today in the future to be a question about his legislate timacy. it's not about whether they're attacking the united states. he sees thes

you are calling for the resignation of education secretary betsy devos because of a hearing last weekain why. >> betsy devos has failed in her basic job of keeping kids safe and making sure that everyone can access a quality public education. what she did was she wanted to rescind civil rights protection for children who experience high rates of discipline because of the color of their skin, and she did that by cherry-picking racist data and research to support it. that is outrageous, even for this administration, even for betsy devos who has a rocky history with protecting civil rights. she has -- it is shocking. just when you think you can't be shocked by her actions, and she needs to resign if she is unwilling to protect our students and ensure there's fundamental fairness that is free of racism. >> congresswoman katherine clark from massachusetts. the study you're citing is from john paul wright from the university of cincinnati if people want to check it out. thanks for being with us this morning. >> thank you. >> alisyn. >>> the breaking news this morning, there's a technical gl

betsy, i want to start with you on this question of what won't we learn. kind of what is the expectation that the white house has for how bradley barr is going to use this authority? >> i think they are expecting him to take a fairly muscular approach to redacting material. one of the biggest question is who fits into that category of peripheral third parties when you consider, for instance, donald trump jr. is jared kushner peripheral? neither were charged with crimes. both of them were clearly extraordinarily of high interest to mueller and the team. one of the other biggest questions that is likely to persist long after tomorrow involves components of the probe that are still ongoing, of course. questions about foreign money flowing into the president's inaugural committee, questions about efforts by people connected to middle eastern governments, particularly gulf governments to influence president trump's team during the transition period. we can say with a high degree of confidence that the report won't cast any light on those questions, which are bo

betsy, how do the optics affect this?en nielsen going out and saying the biggest threat and the president talking about both sides and not condemning the rise in hate crimes and white supremacists and you can argue he's doing it now, but he didn't do it during the campaign. what do the optics do to these numbers and to these groups which are now expanding? >> i mean, the reality is political leaders in dhs and in other executive branch agencies are always going to talk the talk when it comes to domestic terrorism. they will always say that it's a top priority for them and that it's a core part of their mission to prevent this domestic terrorist threat. that's part of the reason it's so important to look, not just at what they are saying, but as is always the case when you're covering politics and government, to look at what they're actually doing, which is much more interesting. and in this case, a point that one former dhs official made to me is, it doesn't make sense for neilsen to say the department is prioritizing dom

betsy devos is siding with them, so she needs to resign.'t, and if president trump won't fire her, then we need to put these protections back into our budget. we need to put the guidelines that obama had just in guideline form into law, because we need to understand that it is our time to stick up for families at home, to work on these issues that they care about, that we see every single day this administration undermining. it took them 24 hours to go from i have been exonerated by the barr report to repealing the aca and health care. 24 hours. they keep telling us who they are and we have to believe them. >>> so a great pivot to my next question. you've giving up that unequivocal cal for the resignation of the secretary, and who the republicans think they are andically them out on what you consider to be hypocrisy. i want you to look toward 2020 and -- what do you make of -- i don't know, whether it's allegations or the story of lucy flores written about joe biden, a potential democratic contender? how difficult is this conversation, do y

betsy, able to also do a little bit of additional digging thanks to tori james here in the studio. this easter egg bunny's glasses apparently this is a bit of a new phenomenon. we're told the bunny had glasses apparently under the first time they this under president trump. president obama's bunny also donned glasses as well. before that, sans glasses. a big thanks to you all. i know you were waiting for that information. thank you. >>> we are going to make a bit of a turn here and pivot to our breaking news that we continue to follow here in sri lanka. 2345 country on high alert right now after a knew explosion this morning in the capital of colombo. a day after the deadly easter sunday blasts killed at least 290 people. left another 500 injured. in the last hour the white house announced that president trump did call the sri lankan prime minister to express condolences and secretary of state mike pompeo talked about the attacks a short time ago. >> it's heartbreaking that a country which strived so hard for peace in recent year has been targeted by these terrorists. we mourn the

let's add to the conversation, harry litman and betsy woodruff. harry, my question for you, if it's good enough for dr. christine blasey ford why is it good enough for the attorney general? >> totally. it's not just dr. ford. it's been done this way dozens of times, including watergate. it's not the provens of the courts or the department of justice to tell congress how it should conduct things. it looks bad of barr to be making a stink about this. we're talking about the most consequential decision that the department of justice has made since at least the saturday night massacre and what barr decided in his counter man of mueller has not been explained to the public. and his decision to do it or not, depending on whether they play by the schoolyard rules that he now discerns, you know, it's really beyond the pale. it won't last. he could try to fight a subpoena battle and have some time stalled. but the overall justification for not coming forward and explaining this huge decision that has, you know, changed everything in the mueller report and

betsy, let me ask you about the state end of this. big story today. there is a change in the new york state legislature to try to get the tax returns. get the state returns. they've got all this stuff, too. >> that's right. i had a long conversation earlier today with a former prosecutor in the justice department's tax division who spent years and years very much in the weeds of sort of the nitty-gritty side of how tax law works. he was anonymous for client reasons, but what he said is that if he were in trump's position, he would be most concerned about what new york state is doing. his view is that the question of whether or not ways and means can get the president's tax returns is an unprecedented legal question. it's going to get litigated and it's hard to perfectly predict how it will fall out. however, if new york state is able to pass this legislation, and the legislation stands up against inevitable legal concerns, the irs won't necessarily be able to intervene because these tax returns in the new york state don't belong to the irs, they belon

i said it's his right. >> betsy, mcgahn expected to appear?ke executive privilege to keep don mcgahn from repeating things he already said on the record and discussing the matters just from a legal perspective doesn't make a lot of sense. it is very challenging for the white house counsel to argue that an executive privilege exists regarding the conversations that mcgahn described to mueller's team. now, the question as to whether or not mcgahn testifies is really important one because you can't have a serious conversation about this obstruction of justice question without looking at mcgahn. he is sort of the hub of the wheel when it comes to the obstruction story surrounding trump. so it's going to be almost impossible for democrats to have a -- to try to do congressional hearings, looking at that matter without mcgahn weighing in. it's my expectation is that democrats will do everything in their power to push to get him to testify and ultimately the decision is going to be between mcgahn and his lawyers unless the white house counsel's offic

so far, we have heard from the board chair, betsy butte, and she just kicked it over to alan parker, interim ceo. i was listening at my desk before i headed over here. he already had to ask several shareholders to leave for outbursts they made over the company's role in the mortgage market. i think it will be a lot of that. ceo saying interim we are moving in the right direction, getting there, transforming this company, and probably a lot of pushback from whoish shareholders have felt frustrated by the kind of bad news out of the company the past few years. guy: so a lot of sound and fury, but will it signify anything? how useful is this meeting in terms of a guide to where the institution is going? jennifer: it is a good question. i have no choice. they are expecting a lot more out of wells fargo, so they have to start making those moves in terms of transforming this company. but i think the shareholder anger is definitely a force to be reckoned with. during her opening remarks, betsy said last year at this meeting they had some shareholders complain they did not have a full report

betsy, how concerning is that to you?ing that has surprised a certain portion of people who have been watching the mueller investigation but ever since the mueller investigation's genesis, people close to rod told me one of the most important things that gets overlooked when we talk about him is the fact he has incredible political savvy. rod rosenstein is one of the only attorneys to serve under a democratic and republican administration. he was under president bush and then held it under obama. that's not entirely unheard of but almost unheard of. and he also had a significantly significant job under both a republican and democrat is because of political talent. this is something we're now seeing with rosenstein, assuming "the washington post" is correct, i have not confirmed it but no reason to believe it's not correct. what this points to is the fact rosenstein knows how to manage some of the complex and high-pressure political issues within both the justice department and the white house. many people overlooked that

such a pleasure to have secretary betsy devos, she is from michigan and she put that she went away to school have an hour to calvin college and she and point got married. they have been involved in education for decades as philanthropists and reformers and political warriors, i am glad you are a secretary. [applause] >> let's talk a bit. i'm glad your education secretary, are you? >> i am indeed. >> did you ever think you would be education secretary? you have been in the trenches so long and you are at the levers of power. >> i never had a goal or dream about being education secretary but when the opportunity arose i cannot say no. i have been involved in education reform, advocating education freedom and school choice for three decades. this is a national extension of what i have been doing for all those years. >> this is an idea summit and you have big ideas, one of which is education, freedom scholarships. sound good. what is it? >> the proposal from the administration, it has corresponding bills that have been interviewed in the house and senate and what it would do is create a f

longtime neighbor betsy peter's in shock , crying over the loss of victim marcus jackson. police confirmed jackson's cousin shot him multiple times in his driveway while jackson was on the ground neighbors say the suspects told the victim's car and ran him over. >> he was coming home from work after the graveyard shift. a suspect sitting out there in front of the house all night long waiting for him. he shot him. >> reporter: jackson died at the scene. relatives came to support his adult children. a police captain also tried to comfort his son. >> not holding together well. they hurting. i gave them a hug. i gave them a hug and gave them my prayers. his coworkers confirmed jackson worked in the maintenance department for the city of berkeley. the say he was a union shop steward and a wonderful man. >> i feel sorry for the victim. >> reporter: public records show jackson has owned and lived in this four plex 29 years. neighbors say the suspect is mentally unstable and has lived in one of the units on and off. >> the changing neighborhood but beach houses different but no vi

got for betsy.hose special olympians have had it too good for too long, what with their javelins and shorts. can you imagine? whose problem with america was helping the disabled too much? it's like she's auditioning for the plot in jordan peele's next horror movie. [ laughter ] in fairness to the trump administration, they aren't just focused on punishing special olympians. trump unleashed another attack on obamacare to make sure no one ever gets help from anyone ever again. >> obamacare is a disaster. it's too expensive by far. people can't afford it. and the deductible is horrible. so the premiums cost too much. the deductible is horrible. the only difference between now and the other administration is that we're administering obamacare very well. so we've made it better, but it's still horrible. no good. it's something that we can't live with in this country. >> jimmy: that's the trump promise. we can't live with obamacare, but by god we're going to die with trumpcare if that's the last thing we

i'm joined by betsy woodruff from the daily best and cohost of signal boost on sirius xm. there is this kind of gaslighty thing that's happening here. it's different than the tax return fight in which it's one of the rare instances where they are being admirably clear. you are not getting the taxes. the barr thing is you will get it. so where is it? >> gaslighting is the exact term. he is saying i didn't want to summarize it and release the summaries. the summary would be counterproductive to being transpare transparent. that's what he did. he had a-page memo and have been doing analysis and i don't understand how. there is no report. again, i thought this the whole time. i'm glad we got confirmation about there being summaries is correct. to understand that mueller's team is living in the same political climate we are all living in and they were working in a vacuum and they knew what was going on on the outside. they prepared summaries that could be released in this specific climate, knowing all of the flags that could be out there and he was blocking this because he was

he stepped in because education secretary betsy devos did not. devos has reversed regulations that reined in the industry. >> i'm not going to tell you the sector is perfect. this sector grew too much, too fast at the height of the recession. >> reporter: he says his schools don't target veterans and believes for-profit colleges were unfairly singled out by the obama administration. >> let's have one set of rules for all schools. >> reporter: secretary devos agrees and says schools should not be targeted because they are for-profit. as for anders figueroa, he has found a new career, but not in television. he's now a wind turbine safety instructor. heidi przybyla, nbc news, washington. >>> at the vatican, tens of thousands heard pope francis mark palm sunday, the beginning of holy week leading up to easter next sunday. among other things, the pope asked the crowd to pray for peace, and he called on them to accept humility. >>> still ahead tonight -- the woman who wasn't there. an inside look at how russian trolls used facebook to influence america

and national security reporter ken dilanian, daily beast politics reporter and msnbc contributor, betsy woodru woodruff. msnbc political analyst jonathan lemire, and former federal prosecutor barrett burger. thank you all for being here. as we pointed out, this was far from the first time we have heard this. we want to make sure that we don't freak out unnecessarily. what did we learn that was new about this? what's the difference between what we knew was happening in terms of the -- or the inspector general over at justice investigating this and bill barr himself? >> what barr made clear is he's conducting his own review, quite apart from what the inspector general is doing, who will be delivering his report in a couple of weeks looking into how the investigation got started. to be clear here, there was surveillance of members of the trump campaign. there were also informants used who made contact with the members of the trump campaign. it was legally predicated. it was pursuant to warrants. but barr made a comparison with the scandals of the 1960s. the warrantless -- and political cam

. >> reporter: a longtime neighbor betsy peters, is still in shock she has been crying over the loss of marcus jackson. police confirmed, jackson's cousin caught -- shot him multiple times in his driveway. while jackson was on the ground, neighbors say the suspect stole the victims car, and ran him over. >> he was coming home from work , after graveyard shift. and the suspect was sitting up there in front of the house waiting for him. so he shot him. >> reporter: jackson died at the scene, relatives came to support his adult children. a police captain also tried to comfort jackson son. >>they are not holding together well they are hurting. i gave them a hug i gave them a hug in my prayers. >> reporter:'s coworkers confirmed jackson worked in the maintenance department for the city of berkeley. they say he was a union shop store, and a wonderful man. >> i feel sorry for the victim. >> reporter: public records has shown that jackson has owned and lived in is perplex for 29 years. the suspect is mentally unstable, and has lived in one of the units on and off. >> each house is different.

or as betsy devos put it, "well, well, well, and then there was -- two." [ laughter ] some more newse. the 2020 election is in full swing and pete buttigieg is feeling pretty confident. you see him on "meet the press"? he said that he has more experience than the past two presidents. some people disagree, because he's only a 37-year-old mayor, but i think those people forgot that our current president is a a former game show host. so i mean, that's -- [ laughter and applause ] let's be clear. but all the candidates are trying to stand out now. bernie sanders is saying that he wants to make it legal for felons to be able to vote while they're in prison. that's an interesting idea. but, you do not want to know how he plans on getting the ballots inside the jail. [ laughter and applause ] i mean, pretty disturbing. elizabeth warren is also in the news. a new poll found that she's currently in third place in her own home state of massachusetts. but keep in mind, second place is a dunkin' donuts cashier and first place is gronk. so i mean -- [ cheers and applause ] massachusetts -- >> ste

education secretary betsy devos on testing standards and opportunity zones. she spoke during a legislative conference. this is 30 minutes. molly: thank you. my colleagues, i don't usually get a full introduction. it is just coming here is molly.

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also with me, msnbc contributor, betsy woodruff. senior washington correspondent kimberly atkins. on the trail with pete buttigieg in south reporter fo washington post" and nbc political analyst robert costa. thank you for being here tonight. betsy, i want to start with you because as somebody who hangs out on capitol hill during the week i was excited we were going to have a couple weeks of recess here, but the reality is this is going to be the mueller show this week in washington. what are we expecting to learn at this point, coming up this week and what are we expecting is going to be left out? >> it depends on how enthusiastic of a redaction job bill barr did. he pick four categories of material to redact, including material that could quote, unquote embarrass peripheral characters. and debending on how expansive he treats the redaction, this could be a lot of black boxes. if not, the question is going to be why mueller's team ended up being agnostic with whether or not they could charge trump with obstruction. we know they were confident there wasn't enough to charge with co

he stepped in because education secretary betsy devos has not.egulations that reigned in the legislation. >> i'm not going to tell you the sector is perfect. this sector grew too much, too fast at the height of the recession. >> reporter: he says his schools don't target veterans. and believes for profit colleges were unfairly singled out by the obama administration. >> let's have one set of rules for all schools. >> reporter: secretary devos agrees and says schools should not be targeted because they're for profit. as for anders figueroa, he has found a new career, but not in television. he's now a wind turbine safety instructor. heidi przybyla, nbc news, washington. >> still ahead, legendary singer tina turner heads for the great white way. plus no spoilers, but we do have some early reviews from last night's "game of thrones" premiere. nexpected bathroom tris you may have overactive bladder, or oab. ohhhh... enough already! we need to see a doctor. ask your doctor about myrbetriq® (mirabegron). it treats oab symptoms of urgency, frequency, and

education secretary betsy devos on testing standards and opportunity zones. she spoke during a legislative conference. this is 30 minutes. molly: thank you. my colleagues, i don't usually get a full introduction. it is just coming here is molly. thank you. thank you secretary devos for being with us today. day,e having a wonderful -- congress room, who believe just like you that every child has the opportunity to reach their potential. i am so happy. a few weeks ago you came down from south carolina. i really appreciated that. you chose where you would like to go. i was a bit surprised because it was not necessarily the school or district that had the bells and whistles, but it was a --ool that is 92% property, poverty and at one time was the lowest performing school in our state, and that has changed. i would like you to reflect on what you saw at the school. and also at the manufacturing career center that we visited. sec. devos: thanks, molly. thanks all of you for having me here today. it is a pleasure to be back after being with you a year ago. i have vi

educations the secretary, betsy devos, talking about education policy.t is 9:00 where you can see that hearing on our website at c-span.org. if you go to the website, there is information on the website. if you don't see it on the side where the boxes are, go lower on the website and there are other bits of information that provide what we are covering today. gerald in san francisco, hello. caller: hello? host: you are on, go ahead. i was telling them about the mueller report and the attorney general. he is covering all these crimes. all these crimes. these are crimes. our whole society is going to end up going down. it is ridiculous. short of the you a report when it is released will discuss or reveal crimes? caller: ok. , everybody knows it is a crime. he is doing all of this. enough is enough. this is my first time as a caller. enough is enough. i mean. matt let's hear from calling from new york. republican line. morning, pedro. it is amazing some of the things i am hearing from democrats that call in that just will not let go of this thing. first is

. >> thank you very much betsy i appreciate it. so this is a very important day and i wish everybody good luck in particular scott, i have no doubt you'll do a fantastic job. >> thank you very much. [applause] >> thank you very much. [applause] [inaudible conversations] >> were having a big meeting this afternoon and i think you folks will be added for little while. the vice premier is here and a lot of people from china that want to make a deal. we will see what happens. maybe a good deal. it's gotta be a great deal. we have been losing over many years four, five, $600 billion a year and we are losing a few years ago 200 routinely to china, we can't do that. if is not a great deal we are not doing it. it is going very well and top officials are here and were very well along on the deal. it's very complex still in one of the biggest deals ever made. it will be a great deal for farmers, technology, intellectual property theft, there is not a thing. our economy is way up, china is not way up and and we need to make a very good deal.