host: let's listen to education secretary betsy devos talking about the administration's approach to school choice. [video clip] devos: the administration is developing the establishment of a federal tax credit, and annual fund, that would be opted into by state, so not a mandate, it does not departmentw federal or program or new bureaucracy to administer, it simply is a vehicle or a mechanism for individuals to redirect a portion of their federal tax to aannually scholarship-granting organization that would then scholarship out to students to make choices in their home state that is going to suit their needs and their purposes. ofdoes face a lot opposition, because the status quo to protect what is at the expense of what could be. host: doug, the outcome of that? guest: there are two issues here. one, when the federal government steps in with a new initiative, it is because a state has wide tried it, and the evidence is not yet supported. a lot of the students use these vouchers to go to private schools. it has actually been negative. students do worse than they would have done other

betsy devos was trying to privatize public education. she appointed someone to the bureau of land management wants to privatize public land. let's make sure we don't make the same mistake of 2016 as candidates and the media. condemn what he does and look at all of the other things we have done the do not improve other people's lives. i would say there are white supremacists who think donald trump has their back. i would say he does continue to use race, gender and geography to divide our country. beingd say the language used with what happened in richmond for -- richmond, virginia, that is not how leaders should act. once you have all of your people go to my website, it will be easy. stage to be on the debate , but we are six months out and i do think iowans take it seriously. it is a solemn responsibility to have. at the end of the day, this big field will not be narrowed down soon, it will be narrowed down by the voters of iowa, new hampshire, south carolina and nevada. i will do everything i can to get there. that does not mean i will

betsy devos was trying to privatize public education. he appointed someone to the bureau of land management that wants to privatize public lands. let's make sure we don't make the same mistake of 2016. as candidates, and as the media, condemn what he does, but also look at the other things that are being done that aren't improving people's lives. >> elizabeth warren has come out and said donald trump is a white supremacist. would you go as far as that? gov. bullock: i would say that there are certainly white supremacists that think donald trump has their back. i would say that he does continue to use race, gender, and geography to divide our country. i would say that the language of equivocating with what happened in richmond, virginia, that is not how we should have leaders act. >> how important is it to make the third debate stage for you? do you think there is a viable strategy to focus on states like iowa? gov. bullock: once you have your folks go to stevebullock.com, it will be easy. i hope to be on that debate stage. but we are sti

host: let's listen to education secretary betsy devos talking about the administration's approach to ol choice. [video clip] devos: the administration is developing the establishment of a federal tax credit, and annual fund, that would be opted into by state, so not a mandate, it does not departmentw federal or program or new bureaucracy to administer, it simply is a vehicle or a mechanism for individuals to redirect a portion of their federal tax to aannually scholarship-granting organization that would then scholarship out to students to make choices in their home state that is going to suit their needs and their purposes. ofdoes face a lot opposition, because the status quo to protect what is at the expense of what could be. host: doug, the outcome of that? guest: there are two issues here. one, when the federal government steps in with a new initiative, it is because a state has wide tried it, and the evidence is not yet supported. a lot of the students use these vouchers to go to private schools. it has actually been negative. students do worse than they would have done otherwise

is great to be joined by a number of champions for veterans, including secretary of education betsy devosbetsy? betsy, doing a great job. deputy v.a. secretary james burns. james, thank you. great job. a man who has really done a great job, i do not know if the is always appreciated, that he has done an incredible job, and your state is doing phenomenal business, and i want to take all of the credit, but i can't, because he has done a lot, to o, because he has been a truly great governor, matt bevin. thank you, matt. kentucky has had record numbers some of the best they've ever had in any category. it is a really incredible thing. and amanda just watched on television, he is so good. congressmen thomas matthews, where is thomas? good job. friendssay hello to our back in washington. that was a good job. i just watched you. i cannot come to kentucky without also praising the exceptional work of senator mitch mcconnell. [laughter] pres. trump: i have to tell you, this guy is a true fighter for our veterans and for kentucky. he has worked tirelessly to enact massive tax cuts, record defense s

at the department of education, betsy devos has eliminated 651 positions. we know the average salary of the department of education is $100,000. that is $65 million a year in butter payroll costs at the department of education. fix.com, threehe ,gencies -- at openthebooks.com three agencies -- 13 agencies have 10,000 plus. 19 agencies have 10,000 employees. have one to 100 employees. can you expand? guest: an interesting conversation is to see who is up and who is down. the american people have to make the decision as to whether this is good policy. the president has to make good arguments to the american people . if you are an irs agent, you are down 15%. there were over 10,000 irs agents. two years later, the fiscal year 2018, that is the latest available. after two years of the president administration, irs agents are 8500 down from 10,000. if you are a nurse at the v.a., the nurse headcount over this to your period is up 4000 nurses. if you are a doctor, you are up 700 doctors. we took a look at openthebooks.com, because we have been getting oversight,

to be joined by a number of champions for americans' veterans, including secretary of education betsy devosbetsy? betsy? doing a great job. deputy v.a. secretary james byrne. james, thank you. great job. a man who has really done a great job, i don't know if he is appreciated, sometimes doesn't work out that way but he has done an incredible job, and your state is doing phenomenal business, and i want to take all of the credit, but i can't, because he has done a lot, too, because he has been a truly great governor, matt bevin. [applause] thank you, matt. and you know, kentucky has record numbers right now. it is the best year they have ever had in just about every category. so it is a really incredible thing. and a man that i just watched on television, he is so good. you can do television for me anytime you want. congressman thomas massie, where is thomas? good job. [applause] thomas, say hello to our friends back in washington. that was a good job. i just watched you. i cannot come to kentucky without also praising the exceptional work of senator mitch mcconnell. [applause] i have to tell

his education secretary betsy devos repeatedly pushed back the repayments and rejected about 99% of applicationsw applications she did approve were already deemed forgivable under the obama administration. so she included a note to the borrowers that she approved the cancellation of the loans with, quote, extreme displeasure. last year, a federal judge ruled the delays were illegal. but still, no borrower has had their request approved or denied in more than a year. so what's the hold up? education department officials say lawsuits are slowing down the process. last month, the american federation of teachers filed a lawsuit against devos for mishandling the program and violating borrowers' constitutional rights by rejecting applications without due process. there's no timeline yet for when the department of education will start reviewing the 180,000 pending applications. >> when we return -- standby for an upgrade, to the middle california phones offers free specialized phones... like cordless phones. - ( phone ringing ) - big button, and volume-enhanced phones. get details on this state program

i will never have an education secretary like betsy devos. ever. [applause] people should have homes where they can look after themselves and have the home health aides they need. kyle works at a local pizza parlor and everyone loves him, a 29-year-old man with down syndrome, and he is an inspiration. i will fight for our disability community. i will make sure everyone is included in the iowa caucuses and no one is discriminated against. i will use my voice to get that done. [applause] >> i want to thank you for your commitment to addressing the overdose crisis, especially supporting care act which is funding communities in iowa to address the crisis. a new bill called the mainstream addiction treatment act would act would remove restrictions around medications to treat the overdose crisis. is that something you would support? senator gillibrand: yes. she asked about a bill on how we treat addiction in this country. this sounds like a bipartisan bill in the house. i will look to see if it has a lead in the senate. i am definitely in. she is so know

discouraging in fact just this past may 51 attorneys general sent this letter to education secretary betsy devossentially telling her that the current process is so complicated. it puts a quote insurmountable obstacle on many disabled veterans. >>for a service member excuse me veteran may not be as computer savvy. it can be very very difficult. >>president trump got the message. he's ordered the education department to make it easier for disabled veterans to apply. >>altogether this actually will wipe that an average of $30,000 in debt owed by more than 25,000 eligible veterans this is fantastic. it's a an amazing accomplishment. >>lo says it's now up to the department of education to make sure veterans know about the faster forgiveness process we need to rely on. >>department of education department of veteran affairs to. push a marketing campaign advertising awareness campaign they're still no word on exactly how the new process will work. >>but for many veterans any change is a good one in washington, i'm trevor shirley. >>for some perspective student loan debt overall in the us is at an all-

a letter to education secretary betsy devos said 9,000 of 42,000 eligible veterans had applied. 3/4 of those who had not were in default on their loans. >>> remember when candidate trump promised to eliminate the federal debt back in 2016. eye-popping numbers show the u.s. deficit is skyrocketing at an alarming rate. the congressional budget office is now predicting the deficit will heech $960 billion and will reach $1 trillion for 2020. there is a huge spending package, too. adding to the heat is a two-year budget deal recently signed by the president. that deal set to raise government spending by hundreds of billions of dollars. the dismal forecast also comes as the president said his administration is weighing several tax cut proposals to help keep the economy moving. economists believe doing so would only further reduce the government's ref knvenue and ad the deficit. >> a deficit he promised to eliminate before coming to the office. the republican party returned to deficit concerns as was their platform. >> you have to wonder whether he looked at this number and said, this is perh

huge advocate for school choice and served on the board of the alliance for school choice with betsy devos served under the bus when she throughout the confirmation process and now is running for president and wants the money with teacher unions and is now trying to appeal to them but it someone who throughout his career has been an advocate for school choice even when he was mayor of new work pushing for it as well. it demonstrates the hypocrisy with him and that power he teacher unions have over particularly democratic candidates. steve: rebecca, in terms of looking ahead and moving forward what should be the priority? >> all of america needs to adopt every single teacher they know. according to national education association internal studies the majority of teachers remain conservative. you have all these teachers funding the demise of their own belief in the demise of their own political beliefs. the demise of their own classrooms. horrific discipline policies teachers are in crisis and can't teach anymore because the discipline is so out of control. they don't know their teacher union

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in michigan, betsy devos' backyard. she obliterated education in that state. education certainly resonates with a lot of families particularly black families in aga gentrified neighborhoods. it's so hard. i've been a producer and working in this business 30 years. hard when we're talking amongst ourselves because we're excited about these huge things and somebody tweeted about this. for voters out there they want to hear from these candidates how will you make my life better tomorrow. >> i wonder if that did come out last night? it was somewhat negative and it did get personal. even if you compare night one to night two. night one there was more talking about the future than i would argue than there was in night two. i want to get your take on maybe the biggest discussions since last night is about cory booker's kool-aid moment. what did it mean? >> i get torn up by my fellow black people. booker t. washington crap. they are pulling me down for not explicitly stating it like in the hood. come on. in the heat of a debate you get up there in front of millions of

the number of questions it asks making it simpler and easier to go to college education secretary betsy devos supports the idea some colleges and universities are concerned that eliminating too many questions. well actually make it more difficult to determine which students need the financial help of all argue is the majority of questions have very little impact on grant eligibility possible to do this simplification and it doesn't. >>cost implications for the federal government it doesn't make it harder to get aid to students who need it but come all adds congress can't open up the faster to more students. >>without making sure the money to help them is also there in washington, i'm just eaten or. >>startling new claim about what the company is using that some say could give you cancer. also a spray designed to protect your home from wildfire some say could be a little too good to be true. now the company behind the product is facing legal action and disturbing new details released in the garlic festival shooting. why the fbi says gilroy was not his on >>back to our top story tonight at 9.30

it's in opposition to betsy devos. she has been no friend to veterans.round education, and that's for profit schools that are ripping off veterans. and the trump administration too often has been standing with schools. he talked yesterday off the cuff about a magic pill from johnson and johnson. that was a real problem. i mean, it was crazy talk. it was it's dangerous. there are no silver bullet solutions for suicide. there is no magic pill. this is trump kind of winging it in a place that can be really dangerous. we need people to have real solutions that are going to be complicated and require his focus. >> going back to student debt quickly. why not all veterans? why not a measure, why not a bill that forgives the student debt of all veterans? >> the gi bill was a huge step forward in 2008. it could extend to loan relief. we'd like to see the transferability so they can apply that to existing debt. no money is wastes that goes into a veteran's education. it's good for national security, good for them, our economy. it's an area of focus we can maybe ge

the number of questions it asks making it simpler and easier to go to college education secretary betsy devosports the idea some colleges and universities are concerned that eliminating too many questions. well actually make it more difficult to determine which students need the financial help of all argue is the majority of questions have very little impact on grant eligibility possible to do this simplification and that doesn't have. >>cost implications for the federal government it doesn't make it harder to get aid to students who need it but of all ads, congress can't open up the faster to more students. >>without making sure the money to help them is also there in washington, i'm just eaten or. well over to the east right now 2000 students will benefit from a backpack drive in contra costa county so yesterday. >>a group of people with a volunteer emergency services team in action they started filling up those back that's with some good supplies. the backpacks will be distributed to low income students whose families already received social services from contra costa county. the ready to

betsy devos was trying to privatize public education. someone to the bureau of land management wants to privatize public lands. but make sure we don't make the same mistake of 2016. condemn what he does but also look at the other things that are being done that aren't improving people's lives. >> elizabeth warren has come out and said donald trump is a white supremacist. there are certainly white supremacists to thank donald trump has their back. to use race,nue gender, and geography to divide our country. >> how important is it to make the third debate stage for you? once you have all your folks go to my website, it will be easy. i hope to be on that debate stage. we are still also six months out. iowans take this very seriously. that is one thing that has been imprinted on my brain. it is a solemn responsibility that they have. this big field will not be narrowed down by the debate stage. it will be narrowed down by the iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, and the bad of -- nevada. i will do everything i can to get there. that does not

there's mike pence looking very beataffectio beaffection, and you have ben carson and melania, and betsy devose all worshiping him. we're back with people who are not doing that tonight. donna edwards, sam stein, ron reagan, and susan del percio. this is scary. >> yes. >> when you make yourself into a diety. >> the question is does he believe it? >> well, the chosen one is either -- who is this guy, what is he making of it? it's frightening. i'm dead serious. >> some people, but they're usually on the corner with sandwich boards over their bodies speaking about something. what is an interesting thing here is we have a very problematic confluence of forces. one is an incredible narcissist in donald trump who was a narcissist prior to becoming president, and then the presidency, which is the most powerful position in the world. when you combine those two things, it might affect your self-perception. >> you know, in certain ways he is the king. his long ball game he's played while we're chuckling at his sometimes near insanity, he's probably -- he gets re-elected again, two more supreme court jus

that will be simple enough by getting rid of betsy devos, ok? [cheers and applause] sen.char: then expand this -- that was called a cheap applause line, but ok -- then expand this into in demand occupations, nursing, things where we want more -- there is a list of them -- where we want more people to go into those jobs. you work in one of those types of jobs, it does not have to be the same one for 10 years, and the same one for 10 years, and you get your remaining loans repaid. it is hooking up with what -- what we need in our economy with the obvious problem of debt and the cost of school. another piece of this, immigration reform. i think this is an economic driver for our country. helen was talking about her own parents -- we have been built upon immigrants, this country, right? when you look at the numbers, 70% of our fortune 500 companies have been run by someone born in another country. why do we want to shut out the talent when we need workers on our factories and our field? we need workers in our nursing homes our hospitals. , i let a bill that allows people to d

discouraging in fact just this past may 51 attorneys general sent this letter to education secretary betsy devosentially telling her that the current process is so complicated. it puts a quote insurmountable obstacle on many disabled veterans. >>for a service member excuse me in veteran may not be as computer savvy. it can be very very difficult. >>president trump got the message. he's ordered the education department to make it easier for disabled veterans to apply. >>altogether this actually will wipe that an average of $30,000 in debt owed by more than 25,000 eligible veterans this is fantastic. it's a an amazing accomplishment. >>lo says it's now up to the department of education to make sure veterans know about the faster forgiveness process we need to rely on. >>department of education department of veteran affairs to. absolutely push a marketing campaign advertising awareness campaign they're still no word on exactly how the new process will work. >>but for many veterans any change is a good one. >>in washington, i'm trevor shirley. >>and we'll go ahead and head outside to get a live look

education secretary betsy devos criticized the palestinian bds movement which promotes boycotts against israel. the paneldevos, discussed how to combat anti-semitism on college campuses. this is one hour and 20 minutes. devos: thank you so much, john. i appreciate that and thank you for this important discussion today. i wish the subject need to be discussed at all. discrimination against anyone on the basis of their faith or ethnicity is always wrong. that we have to repeat that refrain today is troubling. it's even more troubling that too many young people perpetrate that kind of discrimination. this administration is committed to stopping it. we stand firmly against the alarming rise of anti-semitism and we acknowledge this reality. jerusalem is israel's capital. [applause] devos: when president trump moved the us embassy to jerusalem it was a historic step towards peace in the region. and peace in the middle east begins by recognizing israel's right to exist. israel is a light to the region, but we all know it's surrounded by jihadists who embrace people -- evil and who deny israel'

betsy devos was trying to privatize public education. he appointed someone to the bureau of land management that wants to privatize public lands. let's make sure we don't make the same mistake of 2016. as candidates, and as the media, condemn what he does, but also look at the other things that are being done that aren't improving people's lives. >> elizabeth warren has come out and said donald trump is a white supremacist. would you go as far as that? gov. bullock: i would say that there are certainly white supremacists that think donald trump has their back. i would say that he does continue to use race, gender, and geography to divide our country. i would say that the language of equivocating with what happened in richmond, virginia, that is not how we should have leaders act. >> how important is it to make the third debate stage for you? do you think there is a viable strategy to focus on states like iowa? gov. bullock: once you have your folks go to stevebullock.com, it will be easy. i hope to be on that debate stage. but we are sti

education secretary betsy devos criticized the palestinian bds movement which promotes boycotts against israel. the paneldevos, discussed how to combat anti-semitism on college campuses. this is one hour and 20 minutes.

betsy divorce. ever. [applause] devos. betsy ever. [applause] where should have homes they can look after themselves and have the home health aides they need. my friend kyle works at a local pizza parlor and everyone loves him, a 29-year-old man with down syndrome, and he is an inspiration. i will fight for our disability community. i will make sure everyone is included in the iowa caucuses and no one is discriminated against. i will use my voice to get that done. [applause] you for yourthank theitment to addressing overdose crisis, especially supporting care act which is funding communities in iowa to address the crisis. called the mainstream addiction treatment act would remove restrictions around medications to treat the overdose crisis. is that something you would support? senator gillibrand: yes. she asked about a bill on how we treat addiction in this country. this sounds like a bipartisan bill in the house. i will look to see if it has a lead in the senate. i am definitely in. she is so knowledgeable out -- knowledgeable about

at the department of education, betsy devos has eliminated 651 positions.know the average salary of the department of education is $100,000. that is $65 million a year in butter payroll costs at the department of education. fix.com, threehe ,gencies -- at openthebooks.com three agencies -- 13 agencies have 10,000 plus. 19 agencies have 10,000 employees. have one to 100 employees. can you expand? guest: an interesting conversation is to see who is up and who is down. the american people have to make the decision as to whether this is good policy. the president has to make good arguments to the american people . if you are an irs agent, you are down 15%. there were over 10,000 irs agents. two years later, the fiscal year 2018, that is the latest available. after two years of the president administration, irs agents are 8500 down from 10,000. if you are a nurse at the v.a., the nurse headcount over this to your period is up 4000 nurses. if you are a doctor, you are up 700 doctors. we took a look at openthebooks.com, because we have been getting oversight, so o

and they put betsy devos in there and she can't speak to education policy. it's embarrassing.s happening. and republicans want to blow up the systems. this is a culture of republicans working with the others and democrats working with the others. a lot of people feeling like myself. i used to vote as a republican. i'm an independent. i was always a never-trumper and still am. the problem is, that more people are finding themselves in the middle space of i want nothing to do with politics anymore. and that's a dangerous place. people then become apathetic. there's a lot of disconcern about what's going on in our federal government. you have a president who makes a mockery of the presidency. there's that decorum. and no professionalism. people are showing up to congress and that's a problem. it's sending a message that you do not want to do your job or do what you were sent there to do. government doesn't do anything for the american people anymore. you turn to disappointment. >> i'm going back to el paso where i was last week. my league named it the latino 9/11. there was a ame

if we want to improve education, we better get rid of betsy devos. she's terrible for education.o don't think that money saved is going to help the people you want to help. it will go to the rich and the powerful and not to help americans. thank you very much. host: mike is next, out of lake villa, illinois. good morning. you support the cuts. caller: hello? host: go ahead, mike. caller: did i lose it? host: nope. caller: oh, yeah, i'm opposed to foreign aid. the person just before me made a lot of good points, especially just because you cut foreign aid, you cut $50 billion doesn't mean especially with mitch mcconnell and republicans in there, they wouldn't spend a dime on the people in this country. they'll spend it on tax cuts or anything else but the people in this country. that is the only argument i've heard that's for foreign aid that i agree with. but i disagree with helping central america. more money you dump into central american governments, the worse it's going to get for people. they're not coming here because their country can't take care of them. they don't want t

you'll remember that it was the commission that was headed by betsy devos, the education secretary. taking a look at the overall issue of school safety. this idea what have you're saying to your children about gun violence, particularly in light of recent days, jimmy in california starts us off. good morning. go ahead. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. my question is, how come c-span and the other media never have the gun manufacturers on to discuss or fess up as to why guns are manufactured and anything related to that, so that we can tell our children. host: what are you saying to your children about gun violence? caller: it's very bad. host: is that what you're telling them? caller: certainly. [inaudible] host: how are they responding to that or what do they say in return? caller: they're very upset. host: do they offer at least -- do you offer ways to kind of help deal with these kind of issues particularly? caller: why don't the programs have the gun manufacturers on so they can have a handle on why they manufacture these guns? host: ok. that's jimmy. by the w

this is betsy devos's backyard, secretary of education who has been a travesty in that state and nown the federal government. this is something a lot of families across the country care about. we didn't hear a lot on that tonight. the whole let's start a fight and it really the moderators it was like kamala, he was talking about your mama yesterday. what do you think about that? that's not helpful and it's challenging when people are trying to get a sound bite and go viral when you're singing for your supper because you you have a clapping audience and not offering people meat to the bone. i look forward to the debate went no audience. >> and by the way, the debate was in detroit. not that far from flint. you didn't hear about environmental racism. >> when they got into the question, i agree with tiffany. we were talking about education. only bennett talked about education. he said education is a big issue. i was surprised you were in detroit and there were so few detroit oriented responses. cory booker said the reason we lost michigan is because of voter suppression. i was surprised

spending and that's what you've seen over the past three years since president trump and secretary betsy devosptions like this so ultimately when parents have the freedom to choose the best education for their child they know what's best and they should be able to do that. jedediah: tommy thanks so much for being here. this debate isn't going anywhere as we head into 2020. it's going to keep going. pete: thanks, tommy. jedediah: griff is up next in the fox & friends summer grill ing contest. pete: find out what he's making, and if he can beat my famous juicy cheeseburgers. jedediah: he's got good stuff coming, pete. he does. devices are like doorways that could allow hackers into your home. and like all doors, they're safer when locked. that's why you need xfinity xfi. with the xfi gateway, devices connected to your homes wifi are protected. which helps keep people outside from accessing your passwords, credit cards and cameras. and people inside from accidentally visiting sites that aren't secure. and if someone trys we'll let you know. xfi advanced security. if it's connected, it's protected