department of education they are livid that betsy devos didn't go every every single classroom where someone said boops someone offended me. there will be an overreach and they will try to over regulate as they already have, not just what's happened in traditional schools but even some free charter schools and so you wonder why states are increasingly enacting new opportunity scholarship programs, charter schools have waiting lists and there's a demand for micro- schools and people doing their own thing. the end of the day until parents get the money that i know you talked about to follow them, you should be able to write now take your money anywhere and figure out how to fill the gaps your child is missing, especially low income and minority children. all the gaps you are missing, the schools should want to go to our open and you could be doing tons of stuff available that's not very expensive actually a fraction of the cost of traditional public school if we would just let parents or grandparents, families and caregivers decide. neil: it is their kids and grandkids. jeannie, thank

betsy devos said on my application for 3.5 years -- sat on my application for 3.5 years, and then denied it. i am a victim of a crime. i have paid well over $15,000 on the $12,000 i borrowed and i still owe $20,000. when you have defaulted on a loan and you have established repayment, you first pay on interest, then on fees, collection fees, and then you pay on the principal. i still owe more than half of the principal. i am 62. i am going into my retirement years and they can still collect on my social security check. host: when did you graduate? caller: 1985 after four years in the military. i was steered towards this college by a recruiter, by my local guidance counselor. the recruiters paid the guidance counselors one dollars -- $100 ahead -- $100 a head. host: you are still paying the loans today at 62? caller: i worked 50 different jobs. i never got a decent job for my degree at the art institute of pittsburgh even though i attained dean's list four times out of eight quarters. i was an honor student with an awesome portfolio of artwork. this was before the age of computers. i cann

so betsy devos did change the rules but many of the colleges have instituted them voluntarily. so they're no longer saying that they are complying with the government's guidance, which was issued under the obama administration. they're saying they're doing it voluntarily, so they're just going to ignore what the federal government says and many states including california have passed laws that institutionalize or legislate those very same standards. so, it's good that the education department has backed off, but it's unclear to me. how much good that will do at this point because it's got momentum. first set here here's a name. i hadn't heard in a long time, but the question wants to know. what impact did would you place on the kinsey report? remember that with contraception and all of the other kind of social ills that grew out of that? this is a sneak question. someone read the book and knows that i talk about the kinsey report. yeah, so so the kinsey report the height report a whole bunch of other things that were mainstream even even dr. spock, you know a lot of these thing

his education secretary betsy devos repeatedly pushed back the repayments and rejected about 99% of applicationsoan forgiveness. now, the new secretary of education miguel cardona announced the cancellation of $1 billion in loans, which helps an estimated 72,000 borrowers. students will also be reimbursed for any payments made on the loans, become eligible for federal student loans again and have negative ratings removed from their credit. the department will also re-evaluate claims that were denied. >> next -- from a seat to your feet. this shop's rolling out a new beginning for old tires to help save the environment. are you one of the millions of americans who experience occasional bloating, gas, or abdominal discomfort? taking align can help. align contains a quality probiotic to naturally help soothe digestive upsets 24/7. try align, the pros in digestive health. ♪ why do you build me up ♪ ♪ (build me up) ♪ ♪ buttercup, baby ♪ ♪ just to let me down ♪ ♪ (let me down) ♪ ♪ and mess me around ♪ ♪ and then worst of all ♪ ♪ (worst of all) ♪ ♪ you never call, baby ♪ ♪ when you... ♪ ♪ say you will.

trump administration lawyers concluded it would be illegal in a memo to former education secretary betsy devosron klain president biden is awaiting word on his administration's legal reading. >> we would welcome a bill passed by congress to cancel $10,000 in student debt. he would sign that. that would be the first step before the larger amount beyond there. what ron klain was referring to there is an ongoing review. a policy and legal review. >> democrats laid the ground work for huge debt forgiveness with a provision in the coronavirus relief bill formerly any debt cancellation was seen as income by the irs. student loan debt forgiveness is now tax free. progressives are pushing biden to go big framing it as a matter of racial justice. pointing to black students historically borrowing at higher rates and struggling more with repayment. harris. >> harris: jackie, thank you very much. georgia governor brian kemp is going after former opponent stacy abrams. georgia businesses could lose millions through boycotts. abrams is now trying to walk it all back. when it comes to autism, finding the rig

lot of these kids are being taught at home, i actually interviewed the former secretary ofest, betsy devosl choice. in the numbers are you seeing perceptions change on the way, you know, parents view our education system? >> well, i know that a majority of parents want to make sure that we come out of this pandemic with schools that are rethought rather than going babb to normal. i think a lot of parents have had a wake-up call, have seen how much time or lack thereof of instructional time their kids getting. if you said your child's going to be learning about a racial justice in school would have assumed that's meaning they're learning to judge people by their actions, not the color of their skin. the way that racism has shaped some of our institutions and also the progress that we've made. and instead they're finding their kids in sessions where they are actually session regating the white kids from the students of color in search of social justice. and it just with, it astonishes me that we are now at a place where things like outright segregating students on the basis of the color of t

susan: rick hess, what are your thoughts about the tenure of education secretary betsy devos under therump administration? that she accomplish anything? she was certainly controversial. mr. hess: let's be honest. i think the trump administration had a dismal record legislatively. trump was a disruptive, i think poisonous presence as president. and he put together an administration where nothing functionally got done through congress. a smattering of bills, even when the republicans controlled congress. legislatively, no, not much got done at the department of education. i think secretary devos did take some brave stands. i think what you did on title ix to insured due process on campus was sensible and admirable. and in a saner world, would have been held up as something that folks would get behind on both sides of the aisle. i think secretary devos, her biggest accomplishment, or her biggest trademark was being a very vocal spokesperson for school choice, for giving families options. and i think in a lot of ways, the last year has spoken to why it's so important to give families flexi

miguel cardona as education secretary, and he's already outperforming betsy devos.wow! first try! this is -- this guy's good new york governor andrew cuomo's administration announced yesterday that it has hired a prominent defense attorney as cuomo faces investigations into sexual harassment and coronavirus nursing home deaths. and in a sign of just how badly things are going for cuomo, yeah, it's him [ laughter ] "happy to therve!" in a new episode of their podcast, former president barack obama sings with bruce springsteen. unfortunately, this country has determined that you cannot impeach a president after they leave office students at the university of texas have filed a petition to change their alma mater song titled "the eyes of texas," because it has racist origins. and just wait until they find out about the origins of texas it was announced yesterday that the first space hotel will begin construction in 2025 and will include features such as restaurants, a health spa and a movie theater. and if the movie's sold out, you could always look at the earth from o

betsy devos said on my application for 3.5 years -- sat on my application for 3.5 years, and then deniedm a victim of a crime. i have paid well over $15,000 on the $12,000 i borrowed and i still owe $20,000. when you have defaulted on a loan and you have established repayment, you first pay on interest, then on fees, collection fees, and then you pay on the principal. i still owe more than half of the principal. i am 62. i am going into my retirement years and they can still collect on my social security check. host: when did you graduate? caller: 1985 after four years in the military. i was steered towards this college by a recruiter, by my local guidance counselor. the recruiters paid the guidance counselors one dollars -- $100 ahead -- $100 a head. host: you are still paying the loans today at 62? caller: i worked 50 different jobs. i never got a decent job for my degree at the art institute of pittsburgh even though i attained dean's list four times out of eight quarters. i was an honor student with an awesome portfolio of artwork. this was before the age of computers. i cannot possi

seven states sued betsy devos but the lawsuit was dismissed by a federal judge. in a letter to the department of education, vice president elect kamala harris, urged betsy devos to abandon the harmful protocol and start over in order to draft a rule with requirements of title ix that truly would address sexual assault. title ix advocates united and have been extremely open about their position. they staged marches and rallies to protest the new law. even colleges and universities have come under fire for perpetrating rape culture are against it, and many don't have enough money or resources to pay for lawyers. >> the new title ix regulations, as they are currently written, really turned colleges and universities into legal courtrooms. >> first of all, it requires colleges and universities to set up a whole judicial apparatus they are not prepared and not very good at doing. >> in addition to cross-examination, the law provided narrow definition of sexual assault and harassment. >> to be able to report sexual harassment in title ix is that. -- it has to happen mul

. >> vice president mike pence was in the chair to break the tie on the nomination of betsy devos toe education secretary with his vote. she is confirmed. >> one of the most highly debated and awaited new rules around sexual assault and harassment on campus, was made public by the trumpet ministration. >> the government requires colleges and universities to hold hearings and cross examinations involving the accused and the accuser. the era of rules by letter is over. >> when that title ix was written in 1972, it professed sick -- equality for all students regardless of sex. it has not change the growing rate of sexual misconduct in schools. because of these statistics, former president obama released a letter in 2011. >> [no audio] it was at its heart >> betsy devos revoked the letter and enacted other rights. she believed she was granting equal rights to those of sexual predators and survivors. >> i thought was a decent improvement was the burden of proof no longer on the student. it's to prove that the student is responsible. >> these changes sparked outrage among parents and stude

. >> mike pence was able to break the tie on the nomination of betsy devos to be education secretary. quick some of the most highly debated new rules around sexual assault on campus remain public. >> requiring hearings and cross examinations involving both the accused and the accuser. >> the era of jury by letter is over. >> when title ix was first written in 1972, it was to bring equality to all students regardless of sex. while it helped eliminate gender bias in activities such as sports and clubs, it did not eliminate the growing rate of sexual misconduct in schools. because of these statistics, former president obama released a dear colleague letter in 2000 -- 2011. >> it was a strong encouragement for institutions to take instances of sexual violence seriously. >> when president trump was elected, he chose betsy devos to be secretary of education. she mutely took action to -- immediately took action, believing her actions would grant equal rights to those accused of sexual assault as well as survivors. >> another area i thought was an improvement, the burden of proof is no longer