betsy devos has always stood up for school choice. host: what do you think school face as they deal with issues of covid. they have received money from the federal government to deal with covid, what are they face? guest: it is an ongoing challenge that they are dealing with. when there aren't enough school drivers to take them to school. they feel this when their kids get covid and have to stay home from school for a. of time. we can move on as a country broadly from the dangerous threat that existed beginning of the pandemic but it will still cause disruptions. we will have to figure it out and make sure that students are healthy and safe and also recognize that we can't sweep learning loss under the rug because we don't want a whole generation of students to graduate from high school without the requisite skills that they need. host: from wisconsin we will hear from the parent. caller: good morning mr. campanella. i really appreciate your diligence with important questions of the day. i was on a school board for 15 years and my chi

education secretary, betsy devos's new book, hostage is no more. the fight for education, freedom and the future of the american child. many of you may were never that secretary devos was a recipient of our 2019 alexander hamilton award. we are honored to have her with us tonight to celebrate her tenacious and impactful efforts to unlock the potential of america's youth, and our nation's most creative and effective educators. etsy and our esteemed friend of mi, dan seymour, will engage in conversation for the next 20 minutes and we will open it up to questions. dan seymour, an equity partner, chief officer and -- has served as a senior advisor to wes senator mitt romney and former u.s. speaker of the house, paul ryan. dan was based in baghdad for a year, where he served as chief spokesman for the u.s. led coalition in iraq rate prior, he was a senior defense department official. for his service and his wills, dan was awarded the pentagon's highest civilian honor, the u.s. department of defense medal for service. in addition to his prestigious accom

betsy devos, her spokesman says maybe she's not negotiating with the committee. >> i felt that therecould've done to stop the activity to turn it back to avoid all of the things that ensued, and it was just a bridge too far. i had conversations with a number of my colleagues, and then, importantly, i also spoke with the vice president, and he made clear to me that that was not a direction that he was going to move in. >> there is a lot there in the sense that, you know, it's pretty right there confirmation that this was a serious conversation among members of the trump cabinet and then mike pence was, like, i don't think that's the way to go. >> it is striking that we have now had a former cabinet member go out there on the record and confirm that she was having discussions about the twenty-fifth amendment. we also know that elaine chao was having discussions. they found out pretty quickly that these were unlikely to be successful in removing him. and both of those women tendered their resignations on january 7th. it's pretty clear the committee does want to get the full picture of j

this was somebody who was somebody who was backed by betsy devos and all of the devos money and influenceto up his win-loss record and jumping on this at the last minute because she's not the trumpiest candidate of the bunch. >> no. but she is a leading candidate for governor there. what do you make of this strategy, eva? >> well don't know if it is a strategy. i don't know if the former president employs strategy. but she appears to be dynamic. she was in television. she is telegenetic and she's a woman. for both women and men are telejen. and it also helps if he gets a win in michigan. if she asended to the governorship, it is really helpful for the former president to have a political ally in a swing state. so those could be some of the reasons that he is coming in with this final hour endorsement. >> and she's also criticized michigan's top election fo official. even though there is ambiguity about what she thinks an the 2020 election, she still has ployed trumpism in some of her rhetoric as well there. but it is interesting. you see on the flip side of this, democrats also kind of tr

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we know elaine chao and betsy devos both explored removing him from office. it became clear made mike pence would not go along with it, and so both tendered their resignations on january 7. but this is an indication that the committee is still working quietly behind the scenes to get information from new witnesses. sara murray, cnn, washington. >> those new witnesses do not include members of the secret service and some say that they still may be protecting donald trump. we're learned that the watchdog buried a memo about missing text messages from the day of the capitol attack, texts we later learned had been erased. officials from the inspector general's office say they prepared a memo on how the secret service deliberately stole it into the agency's, as on january 6. but after the report was sent to the chief of staff, details about that had been removed from the report. >>> president biden's ambitious plan to curb inflation meanwhile and tackle climate change will be taken up by the u.s. house of representatives in the coming hours. the $750 billion piece

and now, betsy devos has talked about some of those conversations.ident mike pence told her he would not support invoking the 25th amendment. and his support would have been required for a step like that. but wolf, these are the exact types of conversations that the select committee wants to learn about. they want to learn about how concerned cabinet officials were about trump's behavior and how serious were those conversations about the 25th amendment. >> important questions indeed. melanie, thank you very much for that report. the reaction on capitol hill tonight to the stunning announcement by the attorney general, merrick garland, that he's asking a judge to unseal the warrant authorizing the search of former president trump's florida home at mar-a-lago. jessica dean is working this part of the story for us. jessica, very bold move from the justice department. what are you hearing up on capitol hill tonight? >> reporter: certainly, it's important to remember that right now the house and senate are on recess. the members are not physically here, b

. >> betsy devos got that position, but betsy devos's brother went to hillsdale. >> yeah. hillsdale. he's a graduate of the school. the devos family foundations have been connected to it for a long time. you know, pretty much many of the think tanks or conservative media figures that you can think of, many of them have connections to the school. >> how is hillsdale -- talk more about the connection between hillsdale and ron desantis specifically. we know that larry arnn is a big fan of ron desantis. but hillsdale is actually in some of the florida laws regarding education. what happens there? >> absolutely. several years ago, florida decided to completely overhaul its civic standards, which is basically kind of the overarching framework that -- civics curricula would be based on in the states. they want to make it more, quote unquote, patriotic. >> we reported on that on wednesday. >> that was wonderful. and so, hillsdale college is one off the organizations that florida tapped to advise on this project. more recently, and i believe i saw this in your coverage on wednesday

we know that betsy devos and elaine chow resigned january 7th. sations across the administration about whether they could use the 25th amendment to remove donald trump from office. debt si devos even talked to "usa today" about this how it would not be successful and resigned. >> they're just two of nine cabinet officials who have engaged with the committee. you mentioned robert o'brian, who is not a cabinet level official, but there are others they want to talk to. >> that's right. mike pompeo, the former secretary of state, was in there. steve mnuchin, the former treasury secretary. they've had a number of big names. john ratcliff, the former director of national intelligence, is still in talks and dealing with sensitive, classified information. so those are negotiations that they have to work through. but they heard from a number of high level cabinet officials and with others, talks are still on going. >> they're clearly trying to piece together how far the discussions into the 25th amendment went, and what it means for a potential trump candi

we know elaine chao and betsy devos were potentially removing trump from office and both of them submitted> it gives an opportunity for cabinet members to vote and decide if a sitting president should leave office. >> exactly. they were essentially told that mike pence was not going to go along with it and it was unlikely to succeed and they both tended their resignations. >> any other cabinet members about to testify as well before the committee? >> what's sort of stunning is the number of cabinet members and senior officials who already have and we've seen steve mnuchin and eugene scalia, and the former labor secretary and john ratcliffe, former director of national intelligence. he's still in discussions about potentially appearing and he dealt with a lot of classified negotiations and they had to reach the negotiations. >> thank you very much, sara murray reporting. >>> right now weer also getting more new information about the january 6th investigation. information just coming into "the situation room" whitney wild has this. >> the secret service was -- it was significant leigh altere

that includes betsy devos, the former education secretary, she also resigned on january 7th and also the 25th amendment. then john ratcliff, the former director of national intelligence. but first up today, the committee will virtually interview robert o'brien. he was trump's former national security adviser. he considered resigning post january 6th, ultimately did not. and while he is not a cabinet-level official, he is someone who was known to have talked about invoking the 25th amendment. so clearly that topic is of keen interest to the select committee. we also know earlier this week they interviewed mike pompeo, the former secretary of state. and cnn has learned that the 25th amendment was a topic of conversation. so clearly the committee is trying to learn just how serious those conversations were. and just how concerned were these cabinet-level officials. >> yeah. melanie, thank you so much. clearly the committee hard at work for sure. >> reporter: yeah. >>> next, house majority leader steny hoyer will join us live as the house meets to vote on a groundbreaking health and clim

education secretary, betsy devos's new book, hostage is no more. the fight for education, freedom and the future of the american child. many of you may were never that secretary devos was a recipient of our 2019 alexander hamilton award. we are honored to have her with us tonight to celebrate her

education secretary, betsy devos's new book, hostage is no more. the fight for education, freedom and the future of the american child. many of you may were never that secretary devos was a recipient of our 2019 alexander hamilton award. we are honored to have her with us tonight to celebrate her tenacious and impactful efforts to unlock the potential of america's youth, and our nation's most creative and effective educators. etsy and our esteemed friend of mi,

the leading candidate is dixson, a conservative commentator, someone who is supported by betsy devos, former education secretary. this should likely seal the deal for her nomination. host: then in michigan, you have a republican number of congress facing an uphill better. guest: one of the 10 house republicans who voted for president trump's impeachment and may end up facing a big backlash as a result. the opponent of congressman meyer, he is a trump-endorsed candidate. he didn't raise a lot of money on his own. he didn't put together much of a campaign. the democratic congressional campaign committee poured in half $1 million to boost the trump candidate in hopes of taking out one of the more anti-trump republicans. host: let's go to kansas. guest: there is a big referendum on abortion, whether they should codify pro-life provisions into the state constitution. kansas is a very conservative state. this is one of the first testings of the political issue, how it's going to play, even in a republican state like kansas if a majority of kansans reject this pro-life plank to the constitut

under the trump administration and that betsy devos administration, we did not live up to our promise that if they worked 10 years they would be forgiven their loans. during that administration, they ended up owing more money. we need to forgive the loans. we know it not only affects teachers, it affects public service workers all over the country. if we do that, it is not only an investment in our schools and students, if we don't do that and we lose more educators, that impacts our students. we also know that for people to make that choice to go into public service, it is important that we forgive these loans and help the economy. it will make sure that families have what they need. it will ensure that other students will make that choice to follow us in the education profession. we will fight for that. i'm encouraged by the secretary and the administration saying they are hearing this. we are waiting to hear what they are proposing. we will continue to fight for student loan forgiveness. host: let's hear now from a retired educator from massachusetts. caller: good morning. thank yo

betsy devos has always stood up for school choice.ost: what do you think school face as they deal with issues of covid. they have received money from the federal government to deal with covid, what are they face? guest: it is an ongoing challenge that they are dealing with. when there aren't enough school drivers to take them to school. they feel this when their kids get covid and have to stay home from school for a. of time. we can move on as a country broadly from the dangerous threat that existed beginning of the pandemic but it will still cause disruptions. we will have to figure it out and make sure that students are healthy and safe and also recognize that we can't sweep learning loss under the rug because we don't want a whole generation of students to graduate from high school without the requisite skills that they need. host: from wisconsin we will hear from the parent. caller: good morning mr. campanella. i really appreciate your diligence with important questions of the day. i was on a school board for 15 years and my child

trump had a falling out with betsy devos after she resigned following the january 6th capitol riot. ote a handwritten letter urging trump to back dixon. she said she believed trump won the 2020 election in michigan which trump lost by 154,000 votes. when asked on "fox news sunday" if the election was stolen, she was less definitive and her opponent businessman spoend. >> there were definitely things in the 2020 election that left us concerned how it was operated. >> within 48 hours after being endorsed by the president now she is flopping? this is what the people of michigan don't want. this is what we don't like about politicians. it's wrong. >> he is the only candidate who acknowledges trump lost michigan. other candidates include real estate broker ryan kelly, arrested for participating in the capitol riot and a -- democrats have paid over $2 million in ads against dixon. she says that only proves that dems think she is the most formidable opponent against governor gretchen whitmer. democrats have spent money in the michigan third congressional district primary race bolstered john

during the cabinet meeting betsy devos asked me what is a squirrel's favorite drink. before i could answer she yelled nut punch. and then did that to me. >> so download jared kushner's breaking history today. >> okay guy, i'm done with the reporting. okay. the door is locked. ha ha, real funny. who turned off the lights. ivanka. >> it's the late show with stephen colbert. tonight's feel fast better plus stephen welcomes patton oswalt and energy secretary jennifer granholm. featuring jon batiste and stay human with special guest james taylor. and now live on tape from the ed sullivan theater in new york city it's stephen colbert. >> stephen: oh hey. (applause). >> stephen: thank you my friends, thank you, thank you, thank you. thank you. (cheers and applause). >> stephen: okay. hey, everybody. welcome one and all to the late show. i'm your host, coco show. happy monday. it's the first of august. typically, a month when the news slows down. americans go on vacation, congress gears up for recess, and wolf blitzer hits the situation hammock. and that slow news may explain

. >> martha: a big win for tudor dixon and also backed by betsy devos and the devos family in michigan in particular. now she's hoping that she is flip that governor's seat red against gretchen whitmire in november. >> said look, this is a national story. we're here to get this woman out of there. you can go against her. i knew that you were the one that could go against her. aleve x. its revolutionary rollerball design delivers fast, powerful, long-lasting pain relief. aleve it, and see what's possible. research shows that people remember ads with young people having a good time. so to help you remember that liberty mutual customizes your home insurance, here's a pool party. look what i brought! liberty mutual! they customize your home insurance... so you only pay for what you need! ♪young people having a good time with insurance.♪ ♪young people.♪ ♪good times.♪ ♪insurance!♪ only pay for what you need. ♪liberty liberty. liberty. liberty.♪ ♪♪♪ my name is austin james. as a musician living with diabetes, fingersticks can be a real challenge. that's why i use the freestyle libre 2 system.

trump had a falling out with betsy devos after leaving office. >> i think he got bad advice.ross several states where he's gotten bad advice from his adviser. >> it wasn't that he didn't endorse me, he endorsed the people. we're bringing a movement. >> meanwhile, in michigan third congressional district, republican primary race, democrats have spent about half a million dollars to boost trump backed candidate john gibbs who believes the 2022, 2020 election was stolen over peter meyer. today representative meyer blasted candidates that they deem too extreme and easier to beat in november. meijer says as the january 6 co continueses to warn, their party dues are helping elect the same villains they're against. martha? >> thank you very much. bryan llenas in michigan. on this story, we told you that this is what would happen, right? now there's a brand new study that confirms i'm. roughly 1.3 million public school students never came back to their school after they went home to zoom learning and that number is a historic drop in this country's past in a decline, a withdrawal of

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the fact that mitch mcconnell, betsy devos, others are so upset shows you that this will help working-classople. amy: i want to go to your article, "freedom dreams: black women and the student debt crisis," struggling under the weight of hundreds of thousands of dollars in student loan debt. it begins with former ohio state senator nina turner. >> let me give my testimony, if i may, that i am a first-generation college graduate. i tried to break the cycle of poverty in my family's lives. everybody has a hope and a dream for better. but because you decided to go and advance yourself through higher education, -- no how, no way. >> student debt punishes poor and working-class people for pursuing higher education. today, student debt is a nearly $2 trillion weight crushing 45 million people, with women, and especially black women, disproportionately burdened. debt teaches us that education is a commodity, that we need to choose degrees and careers based on pay. that we are alone in our financial struggle. that we do not deserve to be free. >> i owe over $120,000 in debt. i did not talk about it

they have also reportedly sought information from trump's education secretary, betsy devos.e committee's chairman, benny thompson, told reporters that they have spoken to pretty much every senior person in the cabinet, and for the most part, they have all indicated their willingness to talk to the committee. in other words, we may soon learn a lot more about what trump's own cabinet was prepared to do to stop their own boss on january 6th. back with us again is luke broadwater, congressional reporter for the new york times, who's been reporting on the january 6th interviews with trump cabinet officials. you've been reporting on and everything that we're covering tonight. thank you for sticking around. the first question i have for you is do you see an intersection between the documents and the work of the doj down at mar-a-lago and the january 6th committee? >> well, yes. i mean, we do know that at least in terms of trump's record-keeping, but that has an impacted some of the january 6th committee's work. some of the documents they initially wanted were torn up. we know that

very first pitch, he sees fair about an left-field corner, betsy devos.u hugs all the way around. at last check it is 3-0 a's in the sixth. castro field his one-game suspension for having a cell phone come out of his pocket last week. i've never seen that. for some, they get suspension because of the possibility of cheating in cell phones, castro said it was an honest mistake. who is he talking to? the nba schedule is going to be released tomorrow at noon. multiple reports say the warriors will host lakers october 18, opening night, ring ceremony night. in a hobo opening with the grizzlies opening day. -- yesterday the warriors hosted there all hands volunteer day. warriors legend chris mullins was out there to land -- lend a helping hand. 1800 volunteer hours were served to restoration projects, including planting gardens, painting murals and general park cleanup. this is year two of the nir, worse college student athletes can profit off of name image and likeness. a college student may have the grace that i've ever seen. >> i'm so glad we called sos, ra

read education department office of legal counsel memo to then education secretary betsy devos in which have the statutory authority to cancel compromise, discharge or forgive on a blanket or mass basis principle balances of student loans and/or to materially modify the repayment amount or terms thereof. suggesting that would have to be congress that does that. this president says this is an emergency basis through the department of education because of covid even as its cdc is dialing back on the guidance about covid and the emergency status of it your thoughts, leslie? >> the emergency status in that one word make it a game changer as to whether the president has the authority, education department without congress. you know, i don't always agree with ari but i will agree with one thing, please, please, wipe out those debts that we, myself included, owe the irs. in all seriousness, the president campaigned specifically and specifically about this dollar amount with student loan forgiveness when he was elected one. two, less than two months ago, 55% of the american people supported stu

say you are endorsed by the wealthy political divorce and family part former education secretary betsy devospped down from the trump administration after the generate six riots. she said in her resignation letter to president trump at the time quote, there is no mistaking the impact your rhetoric had on the situation and it is the inflection point for me when she resigned. so, do you agree with secretary devos about the president's culpability or responsibility in some way for january 6? >> the secretary knows that she and i differ on that subject. i want to make sure political speech is always protected because that could open a can of words for anyone on both sides of the party. but the secretary knows i disagree with her on that point. >> what is the most important challenge facing michigan? >> a while, we are in a serious education crisis right now. you add an inflation in education those two things are hitting the state very hard. we have been in a steady decline in education for many years but we are 38th in the nation. we are hearing if we stay on this trajectory will be in the bottom

joining me now with the breaking news as everybody gets back to school, betsy devos. great to have you with us. obviously schools have suffered so much. students have suffered so much over the past several years. now we're doing to give it another go. kids going back to school today. what do you think about the fact that some of these districts in new york, california are still having some form of restrictions? >> well, martha, interestingly, these are in places most heavily union controlled and by the adults, not what is right for kids. parents are upset in those place and others mchlt parents are making choices themselves. more than two million kids leaving the public school system. this is just another -- these are other examples of their totally being out of touch with the needs of american families. >> we know 50,000 kids didn't show up for school in los angeles. what do you think that is about? >> well, i'm hoping that for those 50,000 kids, their families have found other good options for them. my fear is some of them are completely lost in the system. again, i

trump endorsed at the last minute, she previously had the endorsement of a prominent republican, betsy devosunted. every county that has reported votes so far, dixon is leading. she would face the democratic incumbent gretchen whitmer if she is the nominee. the senate race in missouri, purple on the map right now, that's the attorney general eric schmitt who is leading with 40% of the vote. eric greitens running a distant third, the former governor. vicky hartzler, republican congresswoman, you see her support in the west central part of the state, that's her current congressional district, not all of these counties. these outside her district, but these counties right here are hartzler's congressional district, not a surprise she's running strong there. >> john, do you know every county in every state? >> not every one, but 3,000 plus, it's a lot to study, america is a great place. >> the fact that you remember all this is incredible to me. kansas voters are weighing in on a constitutional ban on abortion. any sense of that? >> democrats have a theory that because of the supreme court decis

he's one of a number high level trump officials who are in talks we've also learned betsy devos is in robert o'brien, trump's former national security adviser, is set to be interviewed by the committee virtually tomorrow. the committee has been focused on the discussions about the 25th amendment. chow and vause had discussions about the 25th amendment and both of those women re-zioned. >> obviously chow and devos are two of the members that engaged with the committee. do we know the others? >> it's stunning the amount of information they've been able to get out of high level cabinet officials. we know mike pompeo appeared before the committee this week. treasury secretary steve mnuchin has appeared before the committee. jeff rerosen, former acting attorney general, has appeared. even the former labor secretary appeared before the committee and said he encouraged donald trump to concede after the election results were clear. i think they're getting to these sincere misgivings around the trump administration around january 6th and anymore they can learn about how serious these conversat

this ends up being a trump endorsed candidate who wins, also by the way betsy devos, endorsed candidateimary, we'll see if she's able to make this competitive general election. not a surprise that it ends this way tonight. this was the public was suggesting. but yes, the other suspenseful but big piece of suspense in michigan is right here. their congressional district, western michigan, and i look at this. we've got close to a third of the vote in here where you're looking at john gibbs who is challenging peter meijer, peter meijer one of the ten republicans who voted to impeach donald trump. when we look at this last, gibbs laid was getting close to 20 points. it's now down as you can see to about four and a half points. and what is happening here, this is interesting, let's just zoom in here. ottawa county, you can see that this is a smaller part of the district. gives running up a score there. this is the bigger part of the district. cannes county. this is where grand rapids is this is peter meijer's base. if not a lot of the vote gets in for county, it's gonna be a lot more votes t

trump's endorsement, dixon's campaign received a boost with big money from the devos family including betsy devos who served as education secretary in the trump administration. and over the weekend, dixon would not say whether she still believes that trump won the 2020 election. she previously called that election stolen. >>> kansas will become the first state since the supreme court overturned roe v. wade, to road vote on the legality of abortion. voter today will decide whether to uphold or abolish abortion protections currently written into the state's constitution. abortion is currently legal there, until 22 weeks of pregnancy. if it passes, the abortion would no longer be constitutionally protected in the state and given the republican controlled state legislature the opportunity to pass laws to further limit the procedure. the failure could be seen as a political warning sign to leaders of other states contemplating similar abortion restrictions. >>> still ahead, we've got a lot more to get to, including a plan who took part in the capitol riot who gets the longest sentence for january 6th

we also learned a betsy devos, former secretary of education, is in talks. trump's former national security adviser is said to be interviewed by the committee virtually tomorrow. we know especially with these cabinet officials, the committee has been very focused on discussions about the 25th amendment. chao and devos both had conversations about the 25th amendment, the possibility of removing trump from office in the wake of january six. both of those women resigned on january 7th. >> obviously, chao and the devos denied cabinet officials to engage with the committee. do you know who the others are, and what the committee wants enough for them? >> it is very stunning the amount of information they already have been able to get out of a cabinet officials. we know that pompeo, the former secretary of state, he appeared before the committee this week, treasury secretary steve mnuchin has appeared before the committee, jeffrey rosen, former acting attorney general, even eugene scalia, former labor secretary appeared before the committee and said he encouraged d

. >>> the january 6th committee met with elaine chao and is in talks with betsy devos.ssed invoking the 25th amendment. robert o'brien will appear virtually before the committee today. >>> the cdc is ending some of its covid recommends including keeping six feet apart from others and the guidance to quarantine people exposed to the virus. it also eliminated the need for a test to stay in school after potential exposure. >>> the ukrainian operator of the zaporizhzhia power plant says nearby strikes from russia are threatening their operations and may violate radiation standards because of the damage. this after the u.n. called for inspection and demilitarized zone around the plant. >>> and anne heche's family do not expect her to survive her injuries from last week's car crash. she has a severe brain injury and is being kept on life support to see if her organs can be donated. >> more on those stories all day on cnn and cnn.com and don't forget to download the "5 things" podcast every morning. >>> there are new details this morning about a gunman who was killed by police

she previously had the endorsement of a very prominent republican with state betsy devos, the well devoshas a healthy early lead, and you'll notice looking at the, map the yellow every county reported so far. about a ways to go. yeah but that's an encouraging sign clearly for dickson there. she would face the democratic incumbent, gretchen whitmer, if she is the nominee. and we switch to that senate race in missouri. you see purple on the map right. now that is the attorney general, eric schmidt. one of the two, erica few. well donald trump said he totally endorsed eric. is it eric schmidt are eric greitens? eric smith is leading with 40% of the vote. eric riddance is running a distant. third again, this is only about 3% of the votes right now. vicky, the republican ngond athe moment. i just want to note, anderson, as you watch a map fill in, you see her support out here in the west central part of the state. that's your current congressional district. so vicky hartzler, not all these counties, as we move further east, these are outside for the district, but these counties, writer not a

also former education secretary betsy devos has been in talks with the committee about potential testimonywell. also new details this morning about how the committee could have found out about the missing secret service text messages from those key dates around the insurrection over the summer. cnn law enforcement correspondent whitney wild is reporting on this. what more do we know on that front, the secret service text front? >> there is a lot of information coming out to suggest that inspector general investigators knew a lot more and were prepared to tell congress a lot more about the roadblocks they were encountering as they were trying to get really crucial detail out of the secret service. this is according to a draft memo that was obtained by the project on government oversight. it was shared with cnn. and, poppy, it lists several ways that investigators believed the secret service was stalling, really stalling the efforts from the inspect general investigators to try to get these key documents, these key text messages. so the document listed several ways that was happening. they b

this was illegally repealed by betsy devos and 2019.s have still been flowing to the poor performing programs every year. our team at student events will be at federal court tomorrow morning in san jose asking a federal judge to reinstate the gainful employment rule. we really believe that this has the potential to protect millions of students, millions of sutures to dance from attending these failing programs. taking on unnecessary debt, we hope it encourages colleges to lower their tuition so they could pass these metrics and make college more affordable for students across the country. >> isn't it also incumbent, not just on the federal government, but these private universities especially -- not just public. but private university, some of the mostly in the country we talk about averages, it is well above average. 60 to $70,000 a year. isn't incumbent upon them to lower the tuition cost as well? >> absolutely. we need to do more to incentivize private public, nonprofit universities all across the country to lower their called cost i

hostages no more, former education secretary betsy devos is with us this morning.footing the bill? >> well, it's very rare to out of three americans -- all americans will actually own student debt this plan goes through. two out of three americans never took out student loans or didn't attend college. not even the students who faithfully pay down their debt or veterans who earned their tuition. she can't answer the question because she doesn't want to answer the question, she knows it politically a poison pill, a payoff on one side but hopeful votes but on the other side, they know this is ultimately a political loser. this is nothing but a ploy to try to help get votes in the november election. ashley: your certainly not the only person is pointed that out. how would you describe the state of public education? we come through the pandemic, where do we stand right now? >> it's clear parents have -- they have a front row seat on what was happening in many of them are not happy with what their children experienced, what their children are being taught and they are ta

was hoping donald trump would have eliminated the department of education but instead he hired betsy devos. and nothing really happened. >> when you say nothing happened, that is a win for us. as strange as it sounds that ist a wimp if you put in a whole bunch of bureaucrats and at the end of for you as you can say nothing happens i would go yes we won that four-year, go-ahead. >> i was hoping he would -- i am a trump supporter and i think he's coming back. i was hoping he would get rid of the department of education,du h didn't he get rid of the department of education? >> why did he get rid of half a dozen departments. he was hamstrung from the beginning. when you come in and amanda said shee estimated there 16 mega people the entire administration now a president alone appoints 3000, 3000 right out of thoseo 3000 you've only got 60 maggot dedicated peoples going to to be hard to change things that way. too actually get rid of a department you would have to have aho department head who was committed to getting rid of that department. that is very hard to do. you're going to have to set u

he hired betsy devos and nothing really happened. so when you say nothing says when you say nothing happened, that's a win for us. and strange to sound that's a win if you put in a whole bunch of bureaucrats and at the end of four years you could say nothing happened i go. yay. we won that for your exchange. okay, go ahead. so i was hoping he would and i'm a trump supporter. yeah, and i think he's coming back but why i was hoping they would get rid of the department education. and why didn't he get rid of the department education? why didn't he get rid of half a dozen departments. he was he was hamstrung from the beginning. i mean when you come in and amanda melia said that she estimated there were 60 mega people in the entire administration. now a president alone appoints 3,000 3,000 and out of those 3,000 you've only got 60 mega dedicated people going to be hard to change things that way to actually get rid of a department. you would have to have a department head who was committed to getting rid of that department and there's goin

trump had a falling out with betsy devos, former education secretary after she resigned following thete a handwritten letter to back dixon. she believed trump won the 2020 election in michigan which trump lost by 154,000 votes but when asked on "fox news sunday" if the election was stolen picks son was less definitive and her opponent responded. >> there were definitely things in the 2020 election left us concerned how it was operated. >> within 48 hours after being endorsed by the president, now she is flopping? this is what people of michigan don't want. this is what we don't like about politicians. and it's wrong. reporter: rinke is the only candidate who acknowledges trump lost michigan. other candidates real estate broker ryan kelly who was arrested by the fbi on misdemeanor charges for participating in the january 6th capitol riot. and -- who organized rallies against covid-19 lockdowns. democrats, jackie, spent two million dollars on advertisements against dixon which she says means that they believe she is the most formidable opponent against governor gretchen whitmer. jackie?

we've had -- they're in talks with betsy devos, and obviously mike pompeo who, according to one sourceg the questions, specifically about the 25th amendment. i know he gave some comments to fox news that he felt it was -- that they were chasing witches. so but we are going to see, i think, some more revelations about this, probably next month at the public hearings. >> mike pompeo, whose political ambitions seep out of every pore of his being. >> you write that investigators reviewed some documentary footage. they viewed video footage recorded as danish filmmakers tracked mr. stone after the 2020 election, including the day of january 6th. the filmmakers have 170 hours of footage of stone's activities while the committee investigators may find the documentary film footage entertaining, they'll find no evidence of wrongdoing jones said in a statement on tuesday. jones has been pardoned i'm not sure why he's worried about his own wrongdoing. this was part of that thread of investigation into violence and knowledge and how far into trump's inner circle, right? is that what they're still p

the leading candidate is dixson, a conservative commentator, someone who is supported by betsy devos,ormer education secretary. this should likely seal the deal for her nomination. host: then in michigan, you have a republican number of congress facing an uphill better. guest: one of the 10 house republicans who voted for president trump's impeachment and may end up facing a big backlash as a result. the opponent of congressman meyer, he is a trump-endorsed candidate. he didn't raise a lot of money on his own. he didn't put together much of a campaign. the democratic congressional campaign committee poured in half $1 million to boost the trump candidate in hopes of taking out one of the more anti-trump republicans. host: let's go to kansas. guest: there is a big referendum on abortion, whether they should codify pro-life provisions into the state constitution. kansas is a very conservative state. this is one of the first testings of the political issue, how it's going to play, even in a republican state like kansas if a majority of kansans reject this pro-life plank to the constitutio

under the trump administration and that betsy devos administration, we did not live up to our promisehey worked 10 years they would be forgiven their loans. during that administration, they ended up owing more money. we need to forgive the loans. we know it not only affects teachers, it affects public service workers all over the country. if we do that, it is not only an investment in our schools and students, if we don't do that and we lose more educators, that impacts our students. we also know that for people to make that choice to go into public service, it is important that we forgive these loans and help the economy. it will make sure that families have what they need. it will ensure that other students will make that choice to follow us in the education profession. we will fight for that. i'm encouraged by the secretary and the administration saying they are hearing this. we are waiting to hear what they are proposing. we will continue to fight for student loan forgiveness. host: let's hear now from a retired educator from massachusetts. caller: good morning. thank you for your