former education secretary betsy devos joins me now.this failing education system? >> well, good morning, stuart it's very clear that the teach orer unions and the whole cabal that supports the teach or unions have continued to lead the way on keeping kids out of school during covid and and now continuing to pull nonsense day after draw. the fact that secretary miguel cardona is doing a back to school tour today and invited randi weingarten and becky bringing to join him goes to show that the focus is on adult issues and on politics, not on kids and what they have lost, tragically, over the last several years. stuart: we understand that americans generally are losing faith in higher education, the college level. as if a college degree these days, is it really not worth that much? where do you stand on this? >> well, that's right. you know, there's a lot of countries, a lot of our competitors in the world have really doubled down on providing options and paying attention to beyond high school opportunities for their students at a much lo

think one of the also one of the most fascinating things i recall from the book is when betsy devos showed up at a school in milwaukee to talk about school choice to promote school choice. she, of course, is probably the most polarizing education secretary in history drew a lot of protesters. a black parent walking his child in said you're you're talking about somebody's kids. what do you think that moment of shows us about the school movement? yeah. you know, i i really appreciated that that school in milwaukee for for letting me of come in i wasn't there for the protests i visited that school later and interviewed families and that that particular scene that that man recounted for me, you that kind of came from from the families who were a little bit sort of hurt and, maybe irritated that that this debate was essentially happening about their child, sort of the recognition that it was about their child and and, you know, and what i thought was interesting there is that's lutheran private school, milwaukee. it's a it's a high performing school because milwaukee's program requires a certai

when president trump came into office and when betsy devos became the education secretary. i think that administration was so polarizing that it has an effect in choice so we did see a democratic backlash against charter schools, and that was pointed out a little bit, now we have this question on what is going to be a religious charter school, which is kind of a wildcard thing that is pointed out in the last few months. and i think the overall thing that has happened is there's a massive expansion of school choice legislation. one of the key things within that has been the push for universal school vouchers which means they are no longer limited to low income children are just students of disability or just the idea that every family is entitled to take tax powers and use it to pay for the education that suits them. it varies a little bit by state, but general -- generally thinking homeschooling gore if you want to use it for tutoring, online learning. i think the piece of it that has gone universal is one of the things that we have seen. and for me, the argument i made in

let's bring in betsy devos, former education secretary. good to have you with us.t's so hypocritical what this union president is saying in chicago. she wants her son to play soccer, so she's sending him to a catholic school. that's fine. you want everyone to have that same option and portability with their tax dollars, right? why is she so against it and calling it fascist? >> absolutely, martha. what we want for every family is the freedom to take the dollars, the resources that are already dedicated to that child to the school that best fits their needs. stacy is doing exactly what millions of other parents want to do. yet she and her boss, randi weingarten, pretty much single handedly killed the tiny little school choice education freedom for example in the state of illinois. it is the height of hypocrisy. what we continue to see from this administration is just putting kids in a path to failure while continuing to pay off their political bosses, the teacher's union and all of their allies. >> martha: when i look at the numbers, i can't understand why the whole

former education secretary betsy devos joins me now.ndi weingarten replaced? how could that happen? >> well, stuart, first of all, let me say kudos to you and dana for substantive questions on the topic of education. and i think it was clear last night that every single candidate on that stage is oriented around making sure students have the opportunity to learn, not around protecting teachers unions and all of their demands. and the difference can't be more clear between what dem -- what joe biden and all of his, you know, cohorts in office have offered which is total focus bought and paid for by the teachers union, ceding to their demands versus focus on students and making sure that families have the opportunity to find the best education setting for their kids. stuart: but you could say that randi weingarten has been a successful leader of the teach teachers union mt. sense that she's won an enormous amount of money for teachers. not necessarily the students, but certainly for teachers. how could you get her out in. >> well, she act

it back to the people meets that statutory test and that's why we won't just put a -- i respect betsy devos, we will get in there and shut it down while moving certain of the remaining functions like loan collections to the u.s. department of treasury, that department of labor where it be longs. that's how you drive change. and i'm going to quickly go through a sample of the remaining agencies that we will shut down. take the nuclear regulatory commission that has stood in the way of advancing nuclear energy. we have no gen4 reactors. the only country is china. we have gen1 and gen2 reactors which are less safe. and in the name of the agency you could build a nuclear power plant in five years now the average is 25-40 years and japan it's five. france, 5-8. falls at the feet of what brook talked about. this was never passed through congress, these regulations. it is the culture of an agency that believes there shouldn't be another nuclear power plant in the united states and since its inception there has never been a single nuclear power plant built in the united states of america. what we s

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my pal betsy devos, i want to ask you about home schooling. >> yeah.nows a lot bhe home schools his children, charter schools and religious schooling people are looking for options and the parents taking control back. the government has just you know puts it hands into everything. and think about it. you know this, you start them at young, you can went see impact of that -- we can't see impact of that now but in 20 years with a generation of kids with this ideology the landscape changes. larry: why is -- do teachers unions remain such staunch opponents of school choice? i don't get it. >> you get it when you compete against something that can show you up. they know when you have institutions where teachers have flexibility and focus on basics and not ideology, the students and schools perform better, we have home schooled orc or -- our kids for a long time, they give us nothing, they hate the fashion that we've taken -- fact that we have taken control and care about values. you are talking about values. people should have the choice to say, you know, i

will host a special edition of "the big money show," education in america a-train special guest betsy devostim scott. it seems to me this is going to be all about school choice. is that correct? weather you natalie, 70 parents made decisions and voted with their feet leaving blue states to vote a red states because they wanted more choice, they wanted more hands-on approach and access to their children's education. a lot of people have gone to florida for that. this is going to be a big issue in 2024. that's why we have senator tim scott on. remember in 2016, trump was able to swing suburban female voters. he lost them in 2,020 but that is going to be, these were very close elections however the nominee is, if they get that vote back it can make a big difference, parents, mothers care about school choice. stuart: you are an educator. rank education in terms of election priorities next year. economy at the top i got that. brian: it has got to be a top 3 issue for me and that's because it's a question of the future of this country. talk about education, not just how you are doing right now bu

larry: school choice is growing, my pal betsy enter betsy devos i want to ask about religious schoolingon but i think should be part of the mix what do you think. >> i agree i think the homeschooling brian knows a lot about we discussed because he homeschools his children but charter schools, religiousreli schooling, people are looking foler the options and to have mo control it is about the parents wanting to take the control baco because the government has put its hands intoan everything, thk about it you know this as well as i do if you start them at a young age we cannot see the impact but in ten or 20 years with a whole generation of kids coming out with the ideology. all the sudden the landscape changes. larry: i know it is an easy target for conservatives but why do the teachers unions remain such staunch opponent of school choice. i don't get it. >> you get it when you have to compete against something that can show you what. they know when you have institutions and teachers of flexibility and they focus on the basic and not ideology, though schools perform better kids likt e th

we had a former education secretary, betsy devos, on the show earlier.to what she had to say about the decline in education in america. roll tape, please. >> it's very clear that the teacher unions and the whole cabal that supports the teachers unions have continued to lead the way on keeping kids out of school during covid and now continuing to poll nonsense day after day. the system, the government-run education system for k-12 kids has failed millions and millions of them, and families have finally awakenedded to that. and parents are finding their voices. stuart: martha, that's pretty strong stuff. do you think the problem starts with the unionsesome. >> well, the unions have failed the students of this country, but the unions are in place to protect the teachers. [laughter] not the students. and that's a problem with the construct. and so now what you have are empowered parents who are trying to balance that out and represent the students, right? but the failure and the crisis level of american education is so severe in this country, the united stat

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my pal, betsy devos who was education secretary, i want to ask you about homeschooling. >> yeah.ich in some areas is frowned upon but i think should be part of the mix or what do you think? >> i agree with you. homeschooling brian knows a lot about, we discussed it on our show because he does it. >> i do it. >> charter schools, religious schools. people are looking for options and to be able to have more control. it is about parents wanting to take the control back, the government put its hands into everything. think about it, larry, you know this as well as i do, you start them at a young age we can't see the impact of that now but in 10 or 20 years when you have a whole generation of kid coming out with this kind of ideology, all of sudden the landscape changes. larry: why is the, i know it is an easy target for conservatives but why do the teachers unions remain such staunch opponents of school choice? i don't get it. >> you get it when you have to compete against something that can show you up and the problem is they know when you've got institutions where teachers have flexi

. >> yeah, and caroline the form education secretary betsy devos made this point earlier.tacy is doing exactly what millions of other parents want to do, and yet she and her boss, randi weingarten pretty much single handedly killed the tiny little school choice education freedom program in the state of illinois. it is the height of hypocrisy. >> trace: no different than the governor putting his kids in private school and all the other kids are home. i mean, it gets tiresome. >> it's exhausting. honestly as we see in illinois but also across the country, i mean, we have these elites who, you know, set the standards and pass laws and what not, and then their kids are held to a different standard. they can pull them on it, put them in private school, and it creates a strange situation. you know, more than half of americans don't have -- can't do -- can't participate in school choice, like in the state of illinois. but really a lot of parents don't even know what school choice means and so they have to work through the public school struck as it is. and it's really dishearteni

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former education secretary betsy devos. we are all talking about the state of education.n the hands of parents, talk about what is going on inside of the classroom. and how this is going to be a big issue in the campaign. >> ainsley: school choice. that's a big issue. >> give people power back let them make solution for their kids. >> empowerment. all about it. >> ainsley: jackie was bitten by a dog yesterday look at your hand and you still came to work this morning. [sighs] >> ainsley: lots of shot in her hand yesterday but you are a trooper, you are. >> thank you. >> ainsley: i'm glad you are feeling better. coming up attorney general merrick garland pressured on whether biden's doj is targeting parents. >> the white house asked for specific threats. and one of the examples was scott smith. >> nothing has happened in more than a year and a half with respect to that number. >> it's not been rescinded and pulled back. >> there is nothing to rescind. >> ainsley: congressman chip roy has something to say about that and he's next. ♪ you should check out inspire. no mask. no

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